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>> there is some evidence to that effect and i think matt rosendale was running for senate at the time. there was a recording made at a fund-raiser that rosendale held in which he was asked if there's going to be outside spending in his race. he said i had a conversation with chris cox, who was the head lobbyist at the nra. he told me the nra is coming in with a spending the next momt. lo and behold the next month the nra comes in with an what's called an independent expenditure. so he not only admitted it but bragged that he had been coordinating with the nra over it. >> in terms of his -- if...

Rosendale, who was running for senate at the time, there was a recording madest at the fund raiser that a rosendale held in which he was asked if there's going to be outside spending in his race. he said i had a conversation with chris cox, who was the head lobbyist at the nra. he told me the nra is coming in with a spending the next month. lo and behold the next month the nra comes in with an what's called an independent expenditure.hr so you have a case where he knew what was going to be going on with the spend spending, so he onlydi admitted it, but bragged that he had been coordinating wit...

0 race. virginia and new jersey are the only two states that hold their governor races in a year like this, the odd numbered year right after a presidential election, they are the only two states that do, if they do it every four years, all the way back to the 1980, every year t the president has seen the governor loose his race bothe in virginia and in new jersey. that's the way the pendulum swings. president biden this week actually became the first newly elected president of the united states since ronald reagan to not fall prey to that curse. to not have his party lose bothe those governor...

Planned and booked and whether that itself was a kind of admission of a certain potential culpability. margaret, you also mentioned how some republicans are still running from this. they both don't want to alienate which is a larger, growing, insurrection adjacent part of their base, if you want to call it that, but the not bad news, margaret, a lot of americans don't like insurrection against the government. it is not broadly popular. that's why a conservator like blunt took this route. take a look. >> was the insurrection over the election? >> there is a process you go through to determine i...

That way. that future justice departments will do that sort of thing again for criminal friends of some other corrupt future president. you can't just let that slide if the justice department has been used for corrupt purposes to help the president's friends. you can't leave that standing az precedent. that has to be addressed. that has to be readdressed. but that's just the start of it. two federal judges already have ruled that the justice department under donald trump and trump's attorney general, william barr, lied to the public and the court about president trump's own potential culpabili...