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israel is not trying say it is a big success to do that. one, in fact, it is not. i have to say the israelis issued this book as a kind of propaganda. when you say that someone was working for his enemies, it means that he lies for his own people and we expect that there is a big lies in this book. it doesn t mean that everything in this book is serious. there may be some facts which was used to mauck a kind of credibility for the book while we believe most of this is lies. i want to go now quickly to mr. gergeg and ask you, were you impressed by the very passionate way that yusef talks about his conversion from islam to christianity? that seems to have been such a motivating factor for what he did. no. i mean, this is also an element in the tale that also must be taken into account. when we discuss the credibility of what he says. the reason why i say so is that mr. yusef jr. obviously has gone through tremendous upheaval, psychological, personal, multiple levels. ....