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Second. sure, you know, on the one hand the elections were overseen by state monitors, they operated under a consent agreement and they produced no evidence really of wrongdoing outside of this -- nick said those few votes that were reversed. but on the other hand, you know, the democrats won. so i think that's their cause to investigate and pass this law, that the democrats won, and they won by 380,000 votes here. they are using that to try and supplant the entire election system. i mean i think the race element here cannot be disregarded. i think even with conservative courts this is a law t...

Hill. there is growing pressure on the biden administration to push congress to get this done. to some, that means eliminating the filibuster. where do you come down on this, congresswoman? >> well, if the senate cannot get the votes, the senate needs to see voting rights as so crucial that the filibuster does not apply. i want to be clear, though, for your viewers. hr-1 passed the house. >> right. >> the house passed hr-1 early in the session. we are waiting on the senate. now, for hr-4, we are having hearings. as a matter of fact, we have had three hearings already in our subcommittee. i cha...

Option as you see it? is it practical to think that voting rights advocates can fight this out state by state, court by court? >> the history told us that doing it that way is very hard. while litigation and fights in the courts are an important piece of the movement for voting rights and inclusion, they're only one piece. and a larger remedy that would try and block some of these things before they happen as the preclearance provision did would be a lot better and a lot more effective than having to go county by county, town by town, state by state to try and block these things. it's really d...

Ultimately gutted the preclearance requirement which said that states with a history of racial discrimination in voting had to get preclearance before they made any changes. talk about what the erosion of the voting rights act means for the whole host of laws that we're seeing passed now. >> the supreme court has substantially cut back the major tools in blocking and deterring voting discrimination. it makes it harder for voting activists like vote activists to fight back against the measures that are intended or result in imposing obstacles in the way of minority voters. and these decisions h...

Left. and we agree that something has to be done in the form of even if it's something very narrow that just addresses voting rights and what is most important to us is having something in there that gives preclearance. that is very important for states like texas. he's in agreement with that. >> he's in agreement with that. i know we've been hearing that line quite frequently about and we are looking at some pictures there of activists protesting voting rights. it is a growing concern, obviously. you can see capitol police there making what appears to be some arrests. but let's talk about the...