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it's the top of the hour on cnn newsroom. i'm alisyn camerota. at this hour, two former lawyers for donald trump are facing the subpoena power of georgia's special grand jury looking into trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results in that state. right now, rudy giuliani is testifying before that grand jury after learning he is the target of their investigation. in the meantime, conservative lawyer john eastman is trying to avoid the grand jury. he has a hearing right now in new mexico to fight that subpoena. both men along with other trump advisers who have been summoned ...

Michael cohen. With the judge did was amazing actually. Everybody can say whatever they want. They can say whatever they want but im not allowed to say anything about anybody. Its a disgrace. Neil lets say noah kahan after the storm. Michael cohen gets ready to testify and take the stand come monday. Will Donald Trumps former fixer put the former president in the fix or the prosecution in a fixed . We are fixing to find out. The speed at which this trial is going has a lot of folks wondering what next. I am neil cavuto and this is your world. The legal world this past week. Lets go to nate foy...

This election. frankly, we did with this election. >> bakari? >> so, i don't like playing devils advocate, they don't think the devil needs an advocate. however, i will simply state that many times when we look at criminal acts, we look at the words of individuals like donald trump said on this date, i don't think that is enough to get anyone a guilty verdict in anything. >> of course. >> because there are a lot of individual to come out and say i should've won this race, i lost this race, i lost this won this race, but this happened, it rained, it's storms, pulled close when they should've cl...

Predicate act. there are a number of predicate acts, and all she has to do is prove to. but you have real life humans who were affected by the actions of donald trump. you have ruby freeman, for example. you have other poll workers who were just persecuted, who were oppressed, who were targeted, who were just put upon. all of these things. you have voting machines that individuals went inside. of so i don't want viewers or individuals to get caught up in the words, in the grandiose, in the lexicon, the don trump used by saying that, oh my god, this election was stolen. people on the right, man...

Amendment. you might face to civil suit for defamation, but it's not criminal. those are the over acts. the predicate crimes are actual court crimes. here's my question. i think i know the answer but does everyone in the 19 people have to have committed a predicate crime to be included in the conspiracy? or can be the casey only took part in over acts as part of the enterprise and are still trying convicted under the record statute? >> it depends on how it's played. the unique thing about this particular indictment is that everyone in this indictment is charged with also committing a predicate...