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Please do. President mazzucco . Present. Vice president turman . Here. Commissioner marshall . Here. Commissioner dejesus. Is excused. Commissioner chan . Present. Commissioner kingsley. She is here. Present. Commissioner loftus . Here. President mazzucco we have a quorum and also, with us this evening is director jared hicks from the occ and chief of police. And thank you very much inspector monroe and welcome to the wednesday, november 6th, 2013, San Francisco Police Commission meeting and ladies and gentlemen we have a full agenda and most will be in the closed session with the disciplinary...

Inspector monroe and welcome to the wednesday, november 6th, 2013, San Francisco Police Commission meeting and ladies and gentlemen we have a full agenda and most will be in the closed session with the disciplinary matters and review of other issue and so we will spend a lot of time in closed session, but before that we will be in the open session and so please call line item number one. Consent calendar, receive and file action. Sfpd occ Third Quarter, 2013 status report on general orders and policy proposals. Commissioners have you this on the consent calendar in your packet under tab number...

How did this particular structure evolve . We talked about this and what some of the features that were problematic to the district. That if we were going to make any changes like splitting up the reserve, wed also change the first and foremost of those changes regarding the lay offs. For that matter, allowing the majority to change the conditions. Those actually came from the controller as well through sort of a brainstorming discussion and, you know, i think those are those would be very favorable to the district so i was happy to agree with those suggestions on his part. I think those are t...

Much restrictions for how they could take it out, its been growing so that 25 percent, once weve established our eligibility for that certain year has been a lot and certainly in the years we were most desperate because with the budget issues, so i dont why should there be a restriction on how much we could take in one year . I do understand that should this language as proposed go through, we could change that rule 2 3 of the board could change that rule so maybe we want that limitation of 50 percent in any one year because its sort of a its kind of a restriction on us that keeps us sort of a...

School feeder pattern and staff was very hard to look at a granular level at the number of Seats Available to determine that the middle school feeder could be at the Everett Middle School and Daniel Webster would be at james lick and we heard very positive reception of these feeder pat erns. Er earns. Patterns feature meetings the next meeting will be scheduling in the fall. Report from the [inaudible]. Commissioner maufus. Thank you. So we had an action item in support of the update for to our student handbook regarding the appearance so i had mentioned earlier we had sent that forward with a...