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Constitutional origin and dimension." in an interview with me in the situation room, the committee member zoe lofgren noting his prior cooperation in turning over thousands of documents is not buying meadows' privilege claim. >> he's sent this information over. obviously, he did not believe it was privileged. or he wouldn't have sent it. and so, to refuse to answer questions about it is really -- it's not the way things work. you assert privilege on a question-by-question basis. and he is just trying to escape telling the truth to the committee. >> tonight, the committee chairman bennie thomps...

Meadows, what is his argument exactly? >> his argument is in two parts. basically says the subpoenas sent against him by the january 6th committee are overly broad and too burdensome, not targeted enough. essentially accusing the investigative committee of investigating too hard. he also makes a privilege claim here and says he can't decide whether he needs to follow the subpoenas from the committee or need to follow the guidance from former president trump that he is subject to executive privilege and doesn't have to testify. the committee looks at this, though, and sees a classic trump tacti...

President's behalf, are the ones most likely to have engaged in direct one-on-one communication with donald trump. short of that circle, marc short comes into that group. perhaps he was actually on a call that involved donald trump, but if not, he certainly was directly relayed information from the former president through mark meadows or through others, because of his confidence with mike pence, and importantly, marc short is a mike pence guy, not a donald trump guy. so, the fact that he is cooperating also reflects, nicole, as you know, marc short's also kind of a washington politics guy. th...

Indictment. mark meadows, however, is happy to talk about his new book, which democrats say is a sign he doesn't have much ground to stand on over the privilege claim. jeffrey clark had his appearance postponed for two weeks because of a medical issue. he's facing a contempt charge and refusing to answer questions in a recent deposition and failing to hand over documents. who is jeffrey clark? it's not necessarily a name we heard often or really ever for most of trump's administration. we've learned he was very active in efforts to overturn the 2020 election. so here he is. at the end of the t...

Interference or fraud possibly? >> well, i don't want to comment on that, don, for the reason that i don't want to give mr. clark any -- you know, any false reason on his part to claim the fifth. and so i don't want to speculate about that. but, you know, i will say that the witnesses you mentioned, who were his seniors at the justice department, have testified openly before the senate. we're not confirming, i think, witnesses before our committee, but they did both testify. neither claimed any kind of executive privilege. so the idea that a more junior person at the justice department would h...