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Way right now. we are also getting reaction from the president's defenders. let's go to mike viqueira at the white house with that. what's the latest, mike? >> reporter: alex, i think we can break down the republican defense of the president into a couple of different baskets. one is the process argument, that this has been unfair. we've heard that all along when they were in those secret meetings down in the basement, at least those closed meetings. and even after they emerged and seemingly gave the republicans what they wanted in terms of public hearings, they still are talking about the pro...

Democrats and republicans are preparing. what they are going to try to accomplish with the witnesses that will be before them. speaking of the witnesses, this week bill taylor, the current top u.s. diplomat in ukraine, george kent, a department assistant secretary of state, and marie yovanovitch the former u.s. ambassador to ukrun waine was recalled by the president. let's start with manu raju on capitol hill. in terms of republican strategy going in, it's no surprise, it would be almost malpractice if they didn't have strategies going into these hearings. what's been revealed is this 18-page ...

People inside the why is house. this is one of the things that secretary rice said. i see a state of conflict between the foreign policy professionals and someone in rudy giuliani who said he was acting on behalf of the president, but frankly i don't even know the degree to which that's the case. it's troubling. it's deeply troubling and she also criticized on its face the phone call between president trump and the president of ukraine. >> i think the more -- look, we know how president trump will handle criticism from folks like condy rice, which is he's going to say these are people who are ...

>> meantime, democrats have their witness list already in place. republicans are crafting theirs. and it seems like they continue to beat the drum, wanting to out the whistleblower and wanting to hear from hunter biden, as well. listen. >> i consider any impeachment in the house, that doesn't allow us to know who the whistleblower is to be invalid. without the whistleblower complaint, we wouldn't be talking about any of this. and i see the need for hunter biden to be called to adequately defend the president. if you don't do those two things, it's a complete joke. >> is it really a complete jo...

Away from these proceedings. and the witness list that republicans would like to call. almost none of these people are liable to appear, but the fact that hunter biden is on this list, another board member, the still anonymous whistle-blower. those things will not happen but it shows the degree to which republicans want to change the subject. don't be terribly surprised if two other names on their list, the broader committees have deposed. that would come up and it would help the process argument. but it will not be hunter biden and it will not be that anonymous whistle-blower. >> list talk mi...