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Procedural vote unless you cross party lines. >> okay but sahil, what -- yes, it was a procedural vote but it was not a procedural vote. it was big enough she decided to have the gavel which that sends a message. >> absolutely it did. the speaker of the house typically does not vote. this was unusual magnitude. look, one thing it does is this moves the whole impeachment process to a new phase. so far, it's been procedural. republicans have been calling this a sham, a farce. a lot of them have not been saying trump did nothing wrong. >> his argument is simply release the transcripts. said diffe...

That gives the president the power to issue reprieves and pardons says, quote, except in cases of impeachment. and by the way, it's not appealable either. the supreme court has said, because the constitution says that the senate shall have the sole power to try impeachment, you can't appeal a senate conviction to the supreme court. >> jill, you were a special prosecutor in richard nixon's watergate proceedings. pete was just giving us a little historical perspective, but we're living in a whole new world. given what you did then and what you know about this administration, what do you expect t...

It is being chaired by a democrat from massachusetts, as it continues, let's bring in eli sto stokels. they have been pushing for the transcripts to go public. once they are, what about gordon sondland's account being vastly different from everyone else that we have heard from. >> yeah, let's broaden it out beyond that. they are claiming this process argument and they're pushing saying release the transcripts. from everything that we have heard so far about the testimony that happened behind closed doors, it has mostly aligned and brick by brick belt this case against the president that lines ...

With the grvenlth he testified before the grand jury -- the grvenlth he testified before the grand jury. >> right. >>. >> when they were adopted they were adopted by a peace vote before a resolution went to floor. when we had to implement the rules, the chief counsel for the republicans and i had to sits down world trade center white house counsel chuck are you familiar, chuck ruff said to the chief counsel of republicans and myself, the white house intends to fully cooperate with this impeachment probe, even though they've disagreed with it vehemently and if the committee ever on the judiciar...

Were. >> yeah, i'm second that notion. so, if we -- in 1998, the reason we won the debate was because we decided early in january and february when we knew we were going for impeachment towards the end of the year what our strategy would be, what the offense would be. we picked up on the prosecutortorial excesses of ken starr, he withheld a witness of monica lewinsky and was cited for grand leaks of material. he was overly obsessed with the sexual details of an marital affair. we prosecuted them continuously for 12 months. we won the argument. here what the reason i think many republicans are ...