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Practice. if somebody breaks the law, they should be prosecuted for it. by the way -- >> you gave them the plans to do it is what i'm saying. go ahead. what's your last point? >> the tro is not against defense distributed, cody wilson. it was against the federal government. >> right. >> actually these plans can still be put on the internet because there is no tro against us doing it. >> well, what the judge said was for now he wants this held in abeyance so it should stay according to the reckoning of the washington state attorney, where it was before all of this. that's what they're hoping f...

Trump's former campaign chair on trial. we're going to give you the truth about what manafort might mean to the wider russia investigation. and with just hours to go, a judge blocked those blueprints for homemade, untraceable 3-d guns before they were published. but guess what? they're already out there, and the ruling is only temporary. so we have the man who wants all of you to be able to make your own gun. he's going to argue his case, and i am here to test it. i missed you, my friends. what do you say? let's get after it. so today the president tweeted, collusion is not a crime. but th...

Russians and what they were doing and whether it really has anything to do with the probe is what we don't think we'll see. >> no. chris, in this case we do know because on july 10th, in response to a motion filed by paul manafort -- >> right. >> -- the government here, you know, director mueller's probe, they replied in a response in their brief saying this has nothing to do with russians or collusion or russian interference. >> right, in the election. >> right. >> but that doesn't mean that no russians were involved with what happened with him -- >> no, no. absolutely. >> that's the distinct...

Administration. [ overlapping voices ] >> obama should have done more, but mcconnell shouldn't have blocked his efforts. and now trump, it's on him now to see what he does. he's the president. >> you're right. and today secretary of dhs, kirst kirstjen nielsen said we need to prepare for a category 5 event. >> what is he doing? >> so, governor -- >> he's been saying he doesn't believe there was a storm coming. he's been doing that for a long time, dave, and now they're starting to change their tune in the administration. we'll see what they do. >> can i just say -- >> i got to go. >> this is a...

You can help kids graduate. the more you know. i think we arrived at a fascinating debate here. really. this is where i wanted this to go to begin with. there is a -- progressive case for kind of grand bargainism and stopping government by sequential crises. right? and then there is a case for essentially do nothingism which is -- wane to you make the case