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I think it was the way it was done, stephen, more than anything, and trump would have had conditions on the ground. i don't think he would have had an unconditional surrender to the taliban, or given up bagram air base. i was in favour of the residual force to, you know, protect the region and the homeland. having said that, it did project weakness and, irrespective of afghanistan, this waiver of the nord stream ii pipeline — no european country that agrees with this other than germany, whose former chancellor schroeder, is the lobbyist for putin for gazprom... right, right, well, you know.....

Thank you so much. let me bring in my political panel. i'll be joined by the democratic strategist and principal and ceo of indigo consulting, and rick tyler, republican strategist and analyst. rick, let's start with the conflict between ukraine and russia. president biden convened a meeting of the national security council today. days after he said he was convinced putin has decided to invade. how do you think he's handling this crisis so far? >> well, it's not good news, reverend. thank you for having me on. i disagree, he is projecting weakness. i think tony blinken, secretary of state was ...

Weakness, bad actors do bad things. that's what the "wall street journal" is referring to. don't take your eye off bad actors in the world just because of the russia/ukraine conflict. we have to stay focused on the real threat to jeopardize our future and it belongs in china. >> dana: anything the president has done so far helping keeping nato unified that has been done well or something he could do today to project even more strength or more clarity on what the mission is going to be? >> i think russia unified nato as did ukraine, right? that was not joe biden. listen, i think joe biden is pl...

Project strength to anybody? i mean, just from like as congressman haass was saying earlier from the school yard bully to anybody who's bragging about the size of anything, doesn't that project weakness really? >> i think it does project weakness. you have to remember that north korea has a history of making provocative comments. they're not just making them now. and bah iraqi obama used to ignore them and that's what most presidents do, they ignore these comments. whereas donald trump is sort of projecting insecurity by having to respond to this and then sort of do this one upmanship of mine ...

Base. and john, is this now a question of u.s. credibility? and this is the problem, the president's backed into a corner because of the things he said. if he doesn't follow through this country loses its credibility around the world. >> it is a challenge but the president is trying to do a shift from what we saw in the last eight years. instead of having the rest of the country laugh at out and no project weakness. >> i'm a mine tick as well. >> no i may just blow you off the face of the world. this is what people worried about with ronald reagan and it worked. >> it was donald trump who was ...