base. and john, is this now a question of u.s. credibility? and this is the problem, the president's backed into a corner because of the things he said. if he doesn't follow through this country loses its credibility around the world. >> it is a challenge but the president is trying to do a shift from what we saw in the last eight years. instead of having the rest of the country laugh at out and no project weakness. >> i'm a mine tick as well. >> no i may just blow you off the face of the world. this is what people worried about with ronald reagan and it worked. >> it was donald trump who was attacked president obama on the red line narrative. if you look back a couple weeks ago donald trump said the fire and fury message. we've serve passed that threshold -- >> it's a big difference between drawing a line. >> i'm not add voevocated for h