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President trump's ties to russia are so entangled, so complicated, many democrats didn't feel comfortable and at the end of the day moving forward with syria, it's a bit of a proxy fight between the united states and russia. so would you end up on the same side as president trump? are you comfortable with his relationship with russia? >> no. that's why he needs to come back to congress so i can then do the kind of research and investigation, the determinations and make sure i'm meeting and getting classified hearings, et cetera so that i can make the appropriate decision. no, it is clear that ...

Caitlin huey-burns, a reporter for real clear politics, and from washington, bob cusack, editor in chief of "the hill." caitlin, let me start with you. because you are down there. while this is a seven-person race, it seems to be boiling down primarily to a contest between congressman ellison and former obama secretary tom perez. what wing do either represent and who do you think has the edge?in >> this is shaping up to be kind of a proxy fight between the obama white house wing of the party and bernie sanders more progressive wing of the party. that's represented in the race between ellison a...

Trying to make this into a proxy fight between the hillary and sanders camp once again. it really isn't that. it goes back to the point i was making earlier. we need to go back to what howard dean and even jesse jackson stalked about which is a 50-state strategy. i think whoever can articulate that best now between the vote tomorrow morning and afternoon, i think will get the nod. it's actually pretty vibrant here. i think everyone is really excited that whatever comes out of tomorrow, we've got some pretty dynamic leadership. also young leadership going forward. >> we have to leave it there. ...

I guess the vote is tomorrow? >> saturday. >> saturday. it's thursday now. tell me what you are expecting to see out of that. >> yeah. exactly. it is really right now a two-person race. the front run remembers keith ellison, the democratic congressman from minnesota and tom perez, the former labor secretary in the obama administration. either of them is seen to be the front-runner, but it is possible that a third person could end up possibly he emerging, including the mayor of south ben, indiana. in some ways this race has been looked like almost as a proxy fight between the bernie sanders fac...

In both parties. and i think that's what the trump message was that echoes so strongly in these flyover communities. >> what do you say to that? >> i think the democratic party does need to make house calls. we have to be the party in all 50 states and the territories and for democrats abroad. and i think we need to communicate that message of economic security. >> how concerned are you that this campaign is turning into a proxy fight between sort of the obama clinton wing which people say you represent, and the sanders wing that many people believe keith ellison represents. and that this is -...