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ex-president very clear publicly known efforts and plot to overturn his defeat in the 2020 election. a series of court battles over the last few weeks have largely gone in special counsel jack smith's favor, resulted if a whole slew of new trump officials and allies now being ordered to testify. some big names, none of them bigger than the one, vice president mike pence, news broke on tuesday that a federal judge had ordered him to answer questions under oath regarding conversations that may involve illegality on donald trump's part. here's what mike pence told nbc news about all of ...

Know when the week began. >> well, on the irs scandal i learned to file for c-4 tax status you can just assert it. they are behaving like they have and nobody has challenged it. so all the groups that have been challenged are saps. they didn't have to file. and steve miller said it was his idea to have her ask someone in an audience, to ask her the question. he thought it was a good way to get ahead of the story. now if that's what they know about pub lig relations and media, it tells you how they perform in a lot of areas. >> first, i was surprised at the

For u.s., the stakes are very high. >> if there's a collapse of the north korean regime and millions of refugees flowing into china that's the nightmare scenario. >> it puts a damper on their economic performance. that's the economic piece. china is concerned about the economics because the party has legitimacy only as lock as the economy performs. the second part of it is, nuclear proliferation, the thought of japan, even beginning a did cushion -- >> or south korea. >> is a nightmare scenario for the chinese. >> here's some polls, new cnn, that just came out today, we asked the american pub ...

won't support deep cuts without increases in taxes. >> if you are trying to get to 2.4 trillion without any revenue, then you are effectively gutting a whole bunch of domestic spending that is going to be too burdensome and not something that i would support. >> david gergen is the cnn political analyst. there was a time when john boehner and president obama both talked of doing something big to change america's unsustainable economic path. what do you think? do that you think that opportunity is lost? >> well, a week is a long time in politics. it can be a lifetime, as you know. i t...

Hypercheering that we've seen from one side versus the other and then you can have a real conversation with the pub lig, but the way it's been done, it hasn't made that much of an impact. nothing like inaugural addresses. >> they'll be with us throughout the night. i was at a breakfast with house speaker john boehner and he said he's always thought the up and down and stone silence was a bit too much but he hopes that changes not only for tonight but for the future. when we come back, a brag if the focus of the president to a key democrat who's on the ballot in 2012 if, if he decides to run fo...