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Mean, thats the appropriate way to raise an issue with the ukrainian president , correct . Its appropriate for the Justice Department and the Prosecutor General to cooperate and to exchange information, yes. To the extent the president has concerns and to the extent the Attorney General is having u. S. Attorney durham look into it, isnt it entirely appropriate for the president to flag this for president zelensky and say youn touch with our official channels . Mr. Castor, i dont know the precise appropriateness of these kinds of relations. Now, were either of you involved with the preparation ...

Official said even after that that they wanted to withhold the aid is further indication of the fact that it wasn't enough for trump to just get that private commitment from zelensky but that, as bill taylor testified, he wanted zelensky to be in a, quote, public box. he wanted a public commitment, which, of course, is part of the reason why this aid was withheld until september 11th, when the public find out about it. >> sonam, i wanted to get more into that email that we were discussing here. michael duffey added this line here to the july 25th email -- "given the sensitive nature of the req...

Sondland told you that president trump wanted zelensky in a public box, is that right? >> yes, sir. >> by public box, did that mean that private statements, private promises to do this investigation of 2016 and the bidens were not enough, he had to go on tv, he had to go public in some way because the president wanted him in that box, is that your understanding? >> mr. chairman, i don't know exactly what he had in mind and i'm not sure what ambassador sondland had in mind, who was the one that mentioned that to me. that was the implication. the itmplication was it needed o be public as opposed...