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Something is going on there. you weren't so sure that the indictment was going to wait two or three weeks you had a feeling this might happen first of all, tell me why. also, why do we keep hearing allen weisselberg's name continuing to come up the past two, three days? what have you been hearing that tipped your hand to this >> good morning, joe the timetable we're all expecting here was because it was set by donald trump. that's why i thought you shouldn't believe that timetable of tuesday or bust all signs were pointing to an indictment sooner than later because they invited trump to the gr...

Trump to testify. that is something that do you only at the very end of an investigation and only when you are planning to indict the target. i mean, there could be exceptions, but in an overwhelming number of cases, this shows that there will be an indictment and the fact that michael cohen has already testified to me is a punctuation mark. so i expect an indictment to come soon. i still think that this investigation, this case would be the fourth strongest out of the four out there. so we'll see what happens. there could be a lot of surprises out there after we find out what the indictment s...

What has been a broader exercise. >> from punctuation mark, shan, to the question mark of whether it can be implemented about an incitement of insurrection, where the language does track the 14th amem to have a similar consequence if he were convicted of that charge. what do you make of the question of whether that's a possibility to pursue it in that matter? >> i think that's a possibility. and i think it's important to remember for the 14th amendment language, that's not really defined as being only triggered by criminal conviction. so as there had been some attempts to do that across the co...

And going through and thinking about a legislative solution one for law enforcement, one for secret service and intelligence, all very important to think about what to do now. what do you make of it, liam, in terms of the presentation to encompass here's where we go from here? >> first of all i think the fact this is coming out 10:00 on a thursday night means they will be very careful making this was completely ready to go. because if they released this and it had any iota of errors or mistakes i think that would be leapt on immediately by the former president and by republicans. so i think th...

It is going to help people save those cost of living, the dollars their spending, saving money on prescription drug and health premiums but it also includes the largest investment ever in combatting climate change and of course in reducing the deficit. but really, willie, this is a punctuation mark for this president. this is been his number one priority from the very beginning. it is shrunken down from the beginning but they've been working on it for 18 months and it means when white house officials think americans will start to calcify in their opinions in which way they are leaning in the m...