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Customers a day. Host you will have to leave it there. We appreciate your time. We will now bring you to the Senate Homeland security and Government Affairs committee. They are looking at the bureau of oversight. And the challenges facing the federal prison system. You can see the chairman, ron johnson, who will be gathering there shortly. Senator johnson good morning. This hearing will come to order. I am looking forward to this. I was telling the witnesses, i have read all of the testimony, and i generally do that to the best of my ability, sometimes the testimony can be a little dry and wil...

One as well. Mr. Dillard i feel like the work is on the offenders themselves. When i met a lifer who rated difference in my life, throughout my prison sentence i realized how the older inmates tried to encourage the younger ones. I still feel like you cannot leave formerly incarcerated citizens out of the equation. Mr. Ofer i will give two quick examples. There are states that have reduced the risk of solitary confinement without the risk to staff and to inmates. In colorado, 2011 placed 7 of its incarcerated population in solitary confinement. In 2011, colorado place solitary confinement at 7...

Mr. Dillard thank you for your observation. Trauma informed care is truly something that is needed if we are going to be preventive. I can use myself as an example of someone who had traumas at the age of 1213 years old. When i was diagnosed, i had been severely depressed most of my life. One reason i self medicated was Illegal Drugs had i been diagnosed, maybe i could have been given legal drugs and avoided the criminal Justice System. The fact is, we never look at the cause, we just look at the effect. Many, many, many of these women and men who ive encountered have tremendous traumas. We ar...

Man cannot do it all, his staff needs to be on board, is inspirational. I want to make a note on some of the senator carper i would like to listen to you for the rest of the morning, but i would like for you to hold it right there then we will come back to you in the second round. One of the things that attracted to me to a program was the guy who developed that and implemented it in delaware was from ohio state. It came out of columbus, ohio. It worked pretty well. Mr. Dillard, same question. One great example. Piper has given us one, give us one as well. Mr. Dillard i feel like the work is o...