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not going to be a double date. it's an informal summit, unscripted, in sunnylands, at the annenberg estate. no michelle obama, her kids are finishing up school. is that considered a snub? >> the chinese realize they don't have any control over that situation, i think potentially it's a missed opportunity. here you have two powerful women as the piece pointed out. pyung is seen as an empowering figure and so as michelle obama. so it's a slightly missed opportunity for this informal environment and to have these two interesting and powerful women get to know each other. >> you've spent so many years in china with your family, you're writers and experts on all of this. what about the missed opportunity? >> i think that actually the gained opportunity is at least offsets the missed opportunity. this was not originally a planned meeting. president xi was making his first western hemisphere visit to mexico and various places in the caribbean. this was thrown on as an extra meeting for him with the

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