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operators this week, but and i called one individual usually pretty connected and said any upcoming attacks that we don t know about? have you run the traps as well? well, i ve been focusing on the mueller trump russia news tonight, brian, but it s just so remarkable that there are so many possibilities here because of the posture of this administration. north korea, iran, yemen. we re taking military action in countries around the world where we haven t been before. you know, they re really leaning on the balls of their feet here in terms of the military and people are wondering, you know, what could be next. yeah. i think that s why people were so concerned when they backed away and looked at the substance of what the president said tonight. counselor, help us turn the corner into the mueller investigation. so mueller s associates have found the author of the dossier. we learn this a day after there were complaints in the senate that they haven t found, nor is he cooperating with them.
does the mueller team get to be the first and last american interview with this gentleman? is mueller chief among equals of all the people investigating this? usually that s how it works. the senate and the house are working on this as well, of course, but so far they ve been deferring to the mueller investigation. and that s really the way that it should be because criminal charges are going to take precedence over any sort of impeachment proceedings or anything else that happens. we know that mueller is going to be writing a report when he s done about what happened here and in the case that criminal charges are not brought that report, of course, will go to the congress for any action that they may take. so it makes sense that mueller would go firs and also actually that steele would prefer to talk to mueller and his team. why is that? well, he s an intel officer, a former british intel officer. he s used to dealing with law enforcement. he s probably more comfortable in that world rather than dealing with congress, elected politicians. i think he d be a little bit happier to be with mueller and his team. so even to a brit, who has
spent time in the intel world, this is a case where mueller s resume and reputation may have gained him entree that the senate has been unable to get. of course. i mean, mueller was fbi director for ten years, so i m sure that he even knows mueller and his work from his time with prish intel, trusts him as pretty much everyone seems to. i m not surprised that he was able to interview steele. ken, on the dossier, you noticed something about the senate briefing yesterday, the press briefing, just the way they were approaching the subject and dealing with it. i found it remarkable that the republican chairman of the senate intelligence committee richard burr basically said that while they haven t been able to corroborate many parts of the dossier, they did he used the word rebuild. i think he meant they were constructing a timeline in trying to line updates and times and facts. essentially they ve krobld parts of it. and i went back and checked with some sources to make sure i m understanding that correctly.
it s absolutely what they re saying. they re not telling us which parts, but it s just remarkable to me that at this stage in the investigation you have mueller going with his team to interview stooem because after all the fbi has had this information in the dossier for many months. so what this tells me is they are now following up, following new leads. they want more information and this dossier, don t forget is a very i mean, it makes alarming allegations that donald trump is completely compromised by russia and that russian intelligence had completely infiltrated the trump campaign. eli, what ken just said is the kind of factual charge in chief in the document. the document also, how do i say this, contains a pornographic and decidedly none high generalic portion. knowing this was in the public sphere, donald trump who was enough of a germ oh phone to go a long time in his life
preferring not to shake hands, especially at large gatherings, donald trump came out, talked to the media about this dossier. you re going to rescue me after we listen to donald trump. when i leave our country, i m a very high profile person, would you say? i am extremely careful. i was in russia years ago with the miss universe contest which did very well. the moscow area. did very, very well. and i told many people be careful, because you don t want to see yourself on television. cameras all over the place. and again, want just russia, all over. does anyone really believe that story? i m also very much of a germ aphone, by the way. believe me. what was notable about that answer and why it was a laugh line in the room, most of us in the mainstream media had not yet
and still have not talked about the details in the dossier, knowing that people who want to read it can. they can and i don t know that we need to talk in great detail about it right now. we do not. but i will remind you that the campaign also had a partner graphic shall we say portion to it that was embarrassing for the president, the access hollywood tape and he survived that. i don t think at this point the president is worried about embarrassment. most of the salacious details in that dossier they did come out in the campaign and that s what precipitated that press conference right there. what keeps the president up at night what eats at him and what he conveys in private conversations i m told with people whom he speaks with about this investigation is the overarching concern about his legitimacy as a president, his presidency in whole in terms of what happens down the road. there s this uncertainty hanging over him that eats at him. it frustrates him. and anything just not knowing what s going to happen is something i think for a guy who is so reflexive in terms of tweeting all his inner most
feelings, it s a little remarkable that we haven t heard witch-hunt, we haven t heard him complaining much publicly about this. he s still very concerned about this. you go back to the dossier and the things that are in that and the 2013 pageant in moscow and what was happening, some of the people who were around him then, his associates who ernds who are russians, they are part of this investigation. they re part of some of these people are the same people who were involved in setting up that meeting in trump tower where they were offering the information about hillary clinton. so there s a lot of overlapping circles here, and i think the president is just scared. he just wants to to be over. the people around him have had some success at tam ping down. counselor, if you re ty cobb over at the white house and you hear that mueller s folks have talked to steele, what are you thinking? oh, i think they re all terr pied. ty cobb is a very experienced
lawyer, so i m sure he knows how to deal with this sort of thing. up, it s crisis time at the white house. they re having to gather up these documents and hand these things over. the mueller team is starting to purview people within the white house. it s crunch time. and so i think that they re all very worried about what will happen. and if you re mueller s person and by all accounts he has really put together kind of an all star legal team. what document to know from steele? do you ask steele show us your homework. exactly. so the dossier itself is not going to be usable evidence and steele himself is not going to be usable because he doesn t have personal knowledge. you need to get to under the dossier to the sources. they ll go to the sources themselves. they ll then try to corroborate those sources with other sources. evidence that actually can be used in ray court of law and not just kind of things that are good enough for an oppo report. there you have it.
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the president is the leertd of the cabinet. he sets the tone. he sets the agenda, and i think that question makes no sense because of that. that s how the white house publicly handled the nbc news reporting that the secretary of state rex tillerson called the president he seshs a moron. privately tonight s new reporting says this. trump was furious when he saw the nbc news report, which was published shortly before 6:00 a.m. wednesday. for the next two hours the president fumd inside the white house, venting to kelly, officials said. nbc news can also report the chief of staff john kelly summoned tillerson to the white house and they were joined by mattis. the three men apparently huddled to discuss a path forward. with us to talk about all of it, axios national political reporter jonathan swan and white house correspondent for bloomberg shannon pettypiece. we welcome both back to our broadcast. jonathan, let s bump the focus out to a wider shot here.
how bad, how poisonous is the relationship now, in your view, based on those you re talking to and is this at all sustainable? it s really bad. it s actually worse than i thought it was 24 hours ago. look, we reported three weeks ago that the relationship was terrible. we reported some things that trump had been saying about rex tillerson privately, that he just doesn t get it. that he s totally establishment in his thinking. he had alienated just about every constituency in washington. but in the past 24 hours, yes, trump has put on a public face of it s all fake news. i have full confidence in rex. his private face has been completely different. i now know have high degree of confidence in that based on conversation i ve had over the past 24 hours. their relationship is terrible. he views rex as being disloyal.
he doesn t understand why rex couldn t just have come out and said no, i didn t call the president of the united states a moron. so, yes, it s really bad and i m yet to speak to anyone inside the white house who views this as a sustainable situation. that s not to say that, you know, i have any reporting to suggest that he s going to get fired on, you know, friday or anything remotely like that, but nobody thinks that this can continue. it s an unsustainable situation. all right, shannon. jonathan has nicely set up the equation here. here is the other part of this. with so many dar tours lately and especially given the number of foreign countries who vener ate the job of united states secretary of state may more than our president generates the job and title and role, can they afford a departure anytime soon? i think that and two other things may be the only things
that tillerson has in his favor at this point based on i agree with a lot of what jonathan said. one, optically it would look bad because the president has already come out and called this a made up story, fake news, called on congress to investigate fake news. so if he fired tillerson now based off this report, he would be acknowledging that it was true and that his own secretary of state thought he was a moron. so i think there s going to have to be a little bit of time that passes. and, you know, despite the thakt that he doesn t have a lot of allies coming to his defense, he does have three really good advocates inside the white house right now in pence, kelly and mattis, who at least for now seem to be advocating for him and trying to keep him in that position. but unlike the price situation, there isn t this ground swell of support coming from the hill, from former administration officials from within the white house. with sessions that was really a
red line. i don t hear that similar talk with tillerson. i think a lot of us who cover this white house now, we would be really, really surprised if tillerson is here long after his one year anniversary. maybe it makes it until then, but i felt like from the first month of this administration i thought it would be a surprised if he made it past one year, but i think we all feel increasingly so now. jonathan, where is that infrastructure package? that s my way of asking the next question. how much time and energy has this sapped from the administration and core lar aerl, how much work got done this week? well, again, these news cycles consume the president. he has obviously been dealing with las vegas and puerto rico. look, infrastructure has gone nowhere. i understand that that s just your way into this whole situation. what they have got now is a big problem ahead of them, which is continuing resolution to fund the government coming up in december.
we ve got a defense plus up that who knows if they re going to get anywhere near the number that the defense hawks what. and guess what? they ve also got tax reform. that s still very, very, very thin at the moment. so they ve got a whole lot of lemgts laib work ahead of them and there s still huge problems internally. just asking as a taxpayer. you could brak a tooth driving across town in new york and so many other cities. shannon, do you, do we believe the stand by meesque band of brothers, these three, tillerson, kelly and mattis, this agreement they ve formed, one for all, all for one. if one of us is under attack, the three of us may consider leaving? i do. i think you re missing an important one too which is dunford, the joint chiefs of staff. i think tillerson, mattis and dunford, they re marines, they re generals. i think that is a real band of brothers there. i think possibly mcmaster also. he s not ma reasons, but a former military man. i think tillerson may be a bit
on the outskirts of that because he does not share he has not literally been to war in the battle with these guys. but, you know, he is sort of globd on to their alliance here. so for now. but we re certainly going he s going to have to play his cards right. they re not going to be able to pull everything for him. all right. thank you very much. what an interesting conversation tonight. and there are so many moving parts. jonathan swan, shannon pettypiece, i hope both of you will consider rejoining us on this broadcast very, very soon and as soon as you have more news. coming up after our next break, trump has gone after the iran deal like it s a hobbled zebra in a nature special. but is he still as patiently against it as he once was or is he looking for an out? that and more as we continue.
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call prepared remarks. president trump today emphasized his displeasure with the iran nuclear deal, continuing a trend that stretches from the very beginning reaches of his campaign throughout his presidency thus far. i think the deal is horrible. i think the deal is absolutely horrible. kerry might be worse because he s making a deal with iran that is so bad and so dangerous and so incompetent and student that it will have grave consequences. i don t know if you ve been seeing what s going on with iran. they violated one of the worst deals i ve ever seen negotiated at any level. i m not talking about country. i m talking about at any level. this is the dumbest agreement i think i ve ever seen. as far as iran is concerned, i think they are doing a tremendous disservice to an agreement that was signed. it was a terrible agreement. it shouldn t have been signed. it shouldn t have been negotiated the way it was negotiated. i m all for agreements, but that was a bad one, as bad as i ve
ever seen negotiated. the iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the united states has ever entered into. frankly, that deal is an embarrassment to the united states. well now there s this. the washington post reports president trump plans to announce next week that he will decertify the international deal with iran saying it is not in the interest of the united states and kicking the issue to a reluctant congress. joining me now, joe certificate even scene president of the plow shares fund and author of these books pertinent to this conversation. so he s a romantic comedy writer.
rick sentencing el. gentlemen, welcome. and joe, i d like to begin with you. what was the president basing that criticism on lo these many months? do you think he actually did a granular destruction of the iran deal or who had his ear, question one. and question two is for americans smart enough to be watching this broadcast tonight, what s in it for them? why should they if your view is support the iran deal? well, brian, it would be very interesting to know if the president understands what s in the iran deal. if somebody were to ask him to describe it because it s very hard to believe that the president would disagree with the deal that required iran to shrink its program down to a fracture of its former size before the deal and then wrap it in an unprecedented verification procedure. i don t understand why the president doesn t believe his national security team when they tell him to a person the secretary of state, the secretary of defense, the
national security adviser, that this is a good deal in america s national security interests. i don t think he understands what s in it. incompetent he s trapped in this campaign rhetoric. it became a political point. the republicans oppose the deal because of democratic president had negotiated it. and so what s in america s interests right now? this deal is supported by all our allies, all our european allies. it s supported by people who were formerly opposed to the deal like chuck schumer in the senate, like senator cornyn. like the sawed i didn t see, like the israeli and military intelligence leaders. why? because it stops iran from getting a bomb. if the president pulls the plug and pulling out of this agreement that could put us toward pill terry conflict with the middle east at exactly the staple time. that is an extremely dangerous situation. you put it look that it
sounds important. rick, so this now go z to congress whereel they always work with deliberate speed and always seem to do the right thing. what is going to happen then. i have to say i have not written any books that are relevant to this agreement with joe, but i agree with everything joe said. the president is still a captive of his campaign rhetoric. anything that barak obama did he has to reverse. and in fact, it s not let s stipulate he hasn t read one of the agreement. i think we can all agree with that. but it s want that difficult. iran was a nuclear threshold state that president, secretary of state, ernie mun ease went in ask basically created a situation where they pulled back. they destroyed reactors. they agreed to enrich plow the approximate.76 level. all of these things which make them not able to do a nuclear warhead. if we had that deal with north korea ten years ago, north korea wouldn t have a nuclear warhead. i actually think people like
chuck schumer who were against the deal now came over for it. i think people will be reluctant to decertify it. we will be going against our allies, england, france, russia, china. this would make us so untrust worthy on the international stage. so, joe, you ve been around awhile. if both you guys are right and he s going to do this against a pile of evidence and all the aides in this area around him, that takes a pile of acquiescence. i get that there s one boss in the west wing, but there s a lot of people who are going to have to go against their principles and look the other way if this decision comes down this way. right. this is why they re scrambling. so there s other reports out tonight that mcmaster had a group of senators over to his
for dinner on wednesday night, and he indicated that he was very uncomfort alk with this. you clearly see rex tillerson uncomfortable with this. defense secretary mattis testified on wednesday that it was in the u.s. national security interest to keep the deal, to stay in the deal. so they re trying to find some clever way out of this, some way to decertify iran s compliance on the deal on vague national security grounds but somehow stay in the deal. i don t think there s a way to do that. that s why some of these people are so worried that they re trying to do this hugh deany trick, redefine the deal. that s the latest gambit. unilaterally rediefine a deal that you negotiated with seven other countries. we re heading for a train wreck here on american diplomacy that s going to damage u.s. credibility for years to come.
how is the state department and our secretary of state currently viewed by our friends overseas? well, our friends overseas don t know what to make of president trump. they were beginning to get acclimated to tillerson and then now they see this rupture that your earlier segment. it cannot be a good relationship and i can t see how tillerson lasts that much longer past his first year as your previous folks said. so i think people around the world are now worried because if that gets unraveled, then you have, you know, chaos as senator corker said. gentlemen, thank you so much. and by the way, everyone who needs the countervailing view of today s politics, buy rick sentencing el s book on man dell la. it will have the desired effect. if you need to be scared by any or all offo s books. thank you, gentlemen, both very much. coming up, is congress ready to
take on at least part of the kun control debate by out las vegas just one part of an actual gun that s been in the news a lot this week. we re back with that right after this.
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this part, which again can be bolted on to the hugely popular long gun, the ar 15 type rifle and the ak 47. so with us tonight, nbc news correspondent steve patterson who spent some time yesterday out in the nevada desert at one of numerous places in the nevada desert talking with a firearms expert about the kinds of weapon the gunman owned and used. steve, take it away. explain what this is. reporter: well, brian, in sort of the tragic irony in all this, the larger gun ownership community really before this week considered these bump fire stocks to sort of be something of a novelty, almost like a toy. i mean, nobody seriously involved in the marksmanship community, in the hunting community, certainly in law enforcement or in the military would ever really consider practically using these things. so for the purpose of what we re talking about, obviously semiautomatic rifle, one pull, one shot. fully automatic rifle you hold that trigger down and the gun
continues to fire. what this does not do is fully convert a semiautomatic gun to a fully automatic rifle. what it does instead is as you re leaning on that stock, it makes you pull that trigger faster than humanly possible. it is wildly inaccurate. it is unwieldel, but uncan any the way it simulates automatic fire and it s practically haunting. we went to that nevada shooting range. i want you to take a look at this live fire example and we ll talk about it after the junk. so we ve got two semiautomatic women s, long guns. one is outfitted with the bump fire stock. correct. so we just want to know the difference between what it s like for you to squeeze the trigger each time and then what it s like when that bump fire happens. great. yeah. we ll start with the semiauto and i m going to put this trigger as fast as i can.
so now we ll go ahead and do the bump fire. right. so you see that there. they re relatively cheap, about 150 to $3. easy to find, easy to install. but the most frustrating thing about these, the glaring loophole here is because every time your finger comes off that trigger and then pulls it again, they are technically legal. that is still technically a semiautomatic rifle. as we mentioned, wildly inaccurate, but if you have an extended magazine, if you have a scope, if you have a tripod, if you re sitting in an elevated position looking down on thousands of people, what the result was, obviously, this week was the worst mass tragedy mass shooting in american history, brian. steve patterson in the background there, of course, is the manned lay bay, hotel and casino in las vegas. steve, thank you so much. and joining our conversation at this point is erica warner,
congressional correspondent for the associated press. so erica, how surprised were you? the nra so rarely gives up ground in their decades long fight for all freedoms possibly under the second amendment. how surprised were you that they opened the door today to increased regulation of this part? well, initially it was very surprising to hear not just the nra but before them leading congressional republicans open the door to any gun regulations, which have just been absolutely off the table after sandy hook, after orlando, after steve scalise, the house majority whip was injured in gunfire. but on closer examination there are some reasons that these bump stocks make sense as an area where the nra might be willing to put the cam el s nose into the tent, as they say. one is that as your correspondent was saying,
they re very little used. most members of congress had not heard of these. they re not a widely used accessory among gun thuists. they do not account for a lot of re new for industry, which is an increasingly powerful part of the nra board. and as well this is something that can potentially be done by regulation as opposed to legislation. there is not a legislative fight. there s not a vote potentially. it s just done by the administration. and for those reasons this could be a relatively step for the nra to take. i should also add as happens, they are selling so fast and in such numbers because people anticipate losing the opportunity to own them that soon we re going to reach the point where everyone who wants one may have one. back to your other point. what about new town wasn t sad enough after those first graders? what about orlando wasn t sad enough? what is it about vegas that in
your view covering that place seems to have prompted some movement? well, this is why those of us who have been around the hill for a while just felt so certain that nothing at all would happen. right. because as senator dine fine steen, who has been a leader on this issue, author of the assault weapons ban that was in effect for ten years before expiring in 2004, she tried to reintroduce that after new town and it went nowhere. and she said that if the sight of all these slaughtered school children doesn t do the trick, then nothing will. but then when it comes to just these bump stocks, this is a very narrow step. nobody nonetheless, it is surprise. but it is a narrow step, really the least they could do by some respects. in fact, democrats including feinstein are already feeling like the nra and republicans are kind of pulling a fast one here
in taking aim at a very small device that before this incident had p not been well-known at all and instead of taking the legislative route to permanently ban it, just do a kind of do it by regulation and say, okay, now we ve done something. we ve acted. yeah. i heard one democrat today saying don t confuse this with gun control. this would be novelty device control instead. exactly to your point. erica warner of the associated press. thank you so much for joining us. thank you. and explaining all the politics behind this. another break for us. and coming up, word of another location across america. the gunman in las vegas may have been scouting. that when the 11th hour continues.
history. nbc news citing senior law enforcement officials saying the gunman who massacred dozens in las vegas researched possible attack locations in boston and chicago. that s chilling. we have new insight from the gunman s girlfriend reporting, quote, she said he would lie in bed and just said moeng and screaming oh my god, said one of these former officials. joining us now shawn henry, former executive ken did he laneian rejoins us as well. ken, you were the author of all this reporting today. in the course of it, what was the biggest thing you came across. well, brian, that nugget that marilou danley toll the fbi that sherls him in mental anguish, lying in bed moeng, screaming oh, my god.
at least gave us some indication that there were some mental problems here. and another source told us, you know, a similar story about mental anguish. that, of course, doesn t explain what happened. there are a lot of people in mental anguish in this country. they don t go out and commit mass shootings. we re really lacking four days after this incident any kind of picture of what the motive is. it s really an anomaly and mystery. but i ll say, though, we don t have the full ikt approximate here. the fbi and local authorities are looking presumably at his e-mail and private correspondence and reportedly a note that was left. and we don t know what s in that stuff, so they obviously know more than we do. but right now it s a haunting mystery as to what his mental state was and what his motive was. okay, shawn, of the three of us, you re the fbi veteran. a couple questions here. a, do you agree with the view that finding his carloaded up with some really dangerous stuff was maybe an indicator he had no
surrender on his list of plans? and b, does any of from the girlfriend, any of the details that came out today get you closer to a motive theory? brian, you know, the tannerite and ammonium nitrate, you ve got explosive devices or materials that are used in ieds, that is a whole new aspect to this. we heard it early on in the week, but as we start to look at this and his motivation as this comes full circle, looking at all the weapons. and this is a much broader plot, i think, i listened interestingly to the sheriff yesterday talking. what he said out right that he s considering that there may be somebody else. he s want convinced that there isn t somebody else. and we, you and i talked about that efrlier in the week as well. so this mystery continues. when i listened to the dpirl friend today, there is not that much that i heard that was of concern.
i heard the comment about mental anguish or screaming out in pain. i think that there s got to be a little more to that. i saw some other reports of neighbors saying that he liked his privacy. he built a privacy fence even though he had a home that was somewhat secluded. these are things we re going to get bits and pieces over the next couple of weeks. the last thing i ll mention, brian, is ken talked about exploiting, continuing to exploit e-mails. there are a number of electronic devices i ve heard about that he had that will be exploited. they ll be looking at who he was talking to in the days and weeks leading up to this. but as important, you mentioned scouting out some of these other areas and his credit card trail for the weeks leading up to this is going to be very important point for investigators to follow. those are the pieces that will help to pull this together as we try to determine what this crazy
issue was and what caused this man to kind of go over the edge, brian. superb explanation, gentlemen, of these details that came out today and bringing us up-to-date on this grim investigation. ken did he laneian, shawn henry, both friends of our broadcast. thank you so much, gentlemen, for coming on. coming up tonight, someone in regular contact with the president that this country hasn t heard from in a long tomb. we re back with that right after this. hi, i m the internet! you know what s difficult? adulting. hi, guys. i m back. time to slay!
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last thing before we go here on a thursday night is a woman we don t hear much from and don t hear much about. evan that trump, donald trump s first of his three wives granted an interview to cbs sunday morning. she was asked about her relationship with her ex-husband, donald trump. is he still a big part of your life? yeah, he is. he is. in what way? well, we speak to each other. how often? maybe once a week. he asks for your advice. and he s still asking me for advice, yes. what will he ask for your advice about. he ask me about should i tweet, should i not tweet. he asked you should you tweet. yeah. and what have you told him. i say i think you should tweet. she said she turned down his offer to serch as ambassador to the czeck republic because she

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good morning, it s wednesday, september 20th. we are following a number of stories. president trump was america first se u.n. and steps up his warnings to north korea meanwhile, republican as far as see daylight on health care reform. some gop governors aren t so sure about that. the russian investigation rolls on with new details on who s paying the president s legal bills but first, two natural disasters unfolding in real time. rescue efforts happening right now in mexico after a powerful earthquake ripped through that country yesterday and hurricane maria about to slam directly into puerto rico. we ll go straight to meteorologist bill karins with a check on the storm s latest track. bill. power knocked out. roof damage done, structural damages beginning as the strongest weekends are moving on shore in puerto rico. overnight, can you see the storm, 124-mile-per-hour winds in st. croix. now the storm is about to make
landfall. let s get into the zoomed in radar. you see san juan to the north here. then the storm, can you see the center of it. now beginning to come on shore here, it has winds of 150 miles per hour. because of what we call an eyewall siej the center weakened last night. it s a 154 cat 4. this is regarded as the strongest storm to move into puerto rico since 1928. this will leave extreme damage. we are concerned what will happen with the northerly path around san juan in the populated area. tammy. you had a wind gust of 92 miles per hour t. wind center was knocked out at the airport. i imagine you are feeling it? reporter: oh, bill, we are feeling it. no doubt about that. we had to move in out of the elements a little bit because trees have been falling, debris has been falling on cars behind
us. pieces of roof has been peeled off and so we had to take sheltary little bit out of the elements, but we re still getting it. i can tell you that there are about 500 shelters set up across the island, 50,000 people have taken refuge in them. some people we spoke to told us they are hunkering down in their homes. they ve boarded up. hopefully, they are okay. we know there are tourists out here on the island that are trapped. that were not able to get 0u6789 out, that are at hotels, fema set up a command post. $300 people search and rescue from the occupation, they re here, fema will be passing them. as soon as the eye of the storm passes over, they will be making rescues. undoubtedly, there will be rescues to be made. to let you and your crew know, have you four hours until that eyewall is expected with
the worst damage. quickly, we are done with the damage in puerto rico by about 4:00 p.m. this afternoon. off the coast by noon. toward sunset hopefully we will get pictures in to see how bad it is. all right, bill karins, thank you. we will be checking in with you all morning as this hurricane hits the other natural disaster is happening in mexico. rescue efforts are under way as people race to save people under collapsed buildings following that massive.1 earthquake. it was centered 80 miles southeast of mexico city. official versus lowered the death toll there to 217 after raising it to nearly 250 overnight. dozens of buildings were reduced to rubble if densely populated parts of mexico city and another nearby states. president nieto says 40% of the
what, 13, 14% for its approval rate something. yeah. they just never learn. it s really incredible. how so. i talk about putting your hand on the hot stove. yeah, we have been mocking donald trump for doing what only 33% of the country wants, which by the way bumps his approval ratings gone up three weeks in a row for the first time. i wonder why, he s not trying to constantly agra- 200 million people. it s the republicans, they re not on steve bannon s 33% plan. they re on their own 17% plan. every one of these health care bills are horrible. everyone is worse than the last. they re going to do it again and once again, they re saying we are going to reorder one-sixth of the economy and we re going to rush it before we have the congressional budget office giving us a score and say we don t need a cvo score.
we will get to this. it will be a score. we will talk about it for one second. willie, it s unbelievable the so-called conservatives saying we re going to reorder one of sixth of the economy and have no impact what it will have on all of america, on their health care. it is the most radical thing anybody can do. remember, they have a real deadline of september 30th. so that s next saturday i believe, it s about a week and a half where they can use reconciliation and get a simple majority and get 50 votes and have mike pence break that tie. they the ticking clock, they will not look at it appropriately. they won t have the hearings if you reorder the economy. few look at the bill, it s not clear to me what they ve changed to give someone like susan collins or lisa murkowski who rejected the last bill reason to vote for this again. how do you do something that has all of the worst qualities of the last health care bill.
imagine, we play this game, why had democrats had done what republicans had done, imagine what the press would say. mark, we have been doing thatten the years, imagine doing that for ten years, imagine if the democrats reorder one-sixth of the xi and rush through it without a congressional budget office, republicans, right wing radio, everybody on the far right would be going absolutely ballistic right now. few ask why would any of the republicans who opposed the previous bill support this one when by all indications it doesn t meet their objection, particularly in covering fewer people. it s bus of the dead lean that willie pointed out, a lot of republican donors, some republican activists say this is the last chance to repeal and replace the affordable act with a bill that has not been through regular order and which has a lot of the same problems as the original legislation and be i the way if the senate does this
it s not entirely clear the house would pass the same bill so they may be going through this political torture. how can john mccain suddenly decide, oh, mitch mcconnell and donald trump have a deadline? 50i78 worried about that. so i m going to have people remember me for passing a healthcare bill that strips health care coverage from tens of millions of people, it s something we do radically without even looking at a congressional budget office, without doing regular order. john mccain was so right when he talked about regular order. that s what, you want to know one of the tension along with gerrymandering that made washington as sick as it s been over the past several years politically? it s no regular order. they get two or three people in a room. they draft up something. then they shove it do down the rest of the congress and the american people s throat. i highly doubt john mccain is worried about these false dead
loins and is going to let his legacy be that he reordered one-sixth of the economy. without thinking. in such a reckless radical irresponsible way and i just don t know why my friends in the republican party come back and do the same stupid thing over around over again this year. it s as if they are just destanee vat to make nancy pelosi speaker of the house. well, then that would be helpful. now to president trump s nancy pelosi. certainly not to the republicans that are tweeting. which we could use leadership, real moral leadership in the republican party right now as we turn to president trump s remarks to the united nations general assembly, where he held nothing back regarding the ongoing crisis with north korea. now north korea s reckless pursuit of ballistic weapons and
missiles threatens the entire world with unthinkable loss of human life. no nation on earth has an interest in seeing this band of criminals arm itself with nuclear weapons and missiles. the united states has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself for its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. rocketman is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. the president went on to praise the u.n. security council for the harsh sanctions against pyongyang, specifically thanking germany and russia and also calling on the u.n. as a whole to step up its involvement. the scourge of our planet today is a small group of rogue regimes that violate every principle on which the united
feed. reaction. and it seemed that donald trump doused kerosene all over himself and setting himself on fire. then i started looking at the text of the speech and i saw, yes, very strong language towards north korea. language you and i wouldn t prefer and be used. but he also criticized iran. he also criticized venezuela. he criticized rogue regems. he spoke glowingly of the marshall plan. he talked about dig cheney and richard pearl on steroids talking about the righteous many ago ens the evil few. i would say, okay, so i m missing something here. then i read you are op-ed later in the afternoon where you said actually you take away the bomb bath, this is actually a fairly conventional speech from a president at the united nations. well, joe, i had the same
reaction t. speech had zingers in it guaranteed to kind of send the the news media crazy, we re going to totally destroy north korea. this repetition of the president s new favorite catch phrase rocketman clearly replaced crooked hillary as his go-to phrase, but when you go down the speech, what was fascinating to me the president in his first speech at the u.n. was embracing a legacy of this institution. he mentioned president trueman, really the founding father of that world twice in his speech. he mentioned the marshall plap. speed limitary of the marshall plan. the building blocks of the world you and i live in. and we ve talked together. i would often talk with mika s dad when he was alive about the
danger that this world that was created in 1945 would be taken apart by donald trump and interestingly the speech went in a different direction. it s not to excuse the undiplomatic language. i don t think that that helps. but the substance of the speech tells me that nine months in, he is less determined to overturn the system than we might have thought at the beginning. so davgsd i was struck listening to that. yes, it was different than previous president s speeches at the u.n., but it was precisely what donald trump campaigned on, he said,ly defend america first,ly look out first for america s interests, unconventional, yes, but not unexpected i don t think from donald trump. some of the analysis this morning is that the president quote reshaped the u.s. role in the world with that speech. did he really? was it such a big departure from what s happened in this country in the past? i didn t think it was, willie. i think what s important is when
a figure who is trying to speak for the masses of americas who think the u.n. is a big waste of time and money says we want to be invested in a united nations that s a community of strong sovereign nations, that s reshaping the balance on which this rest itself, but it s not overturning it. so i read it a little different from some of the other commentators. we ll see. i mean, if president trump is serious bringing the united states back in, for the reform of the u.n., making it more effective. more of a place where problems get solved. that will be a significant difference for a conservative and republicans to do that would be a big step. i can t help but think that nikki haley, his fate foreign policy official, ambassador at the u.n. is one of the reasons he s so excited about it, it s his friend nikki s project.
we ll see where this goes. mark, i was just going to say, the speech, minus the bomb bast could have been written by secretary mattis, could have been written by general mcmaster, could have been written by ambassador nikki haley. there wasn t the ban none-esque isolation here. there wasn t the tip of the united states, a tip of the hat to the international community and i would just, i don t know, it seems like a lot of headlines at least online were written before they actually heard this speech or digested this speech the way david ignacious did a few hours after the piece. both david s piece and the wall street journal saw flaws in it but liked a lot of it. it reflected a lot of what the president thinks about these issues and a lot of what the american people would think. american people would like
america to be strong around the world and stand up when american interests are threatened, would like to work with international organizations and doesn t think america should bear all the burden. on forth korea, the long-term goals are to get rid of the weapons, in the short term, there are two other goals, one is to make this not u.s. versus north korea and make it more multilateral. he encouraged the community to join the united states and solve it and deter an initial attack. i think some of this rhetoric david and other have criticize. it s downsized. i think it is meant to deter and attack. i think it may have that effect when the past three presidents have failed in feeling comfort ability about where we stand. this president is shaking it up during a risky way but a different way. i will say also one of the headline grabers was he said he can destroy north korea. we can completely obliterate north korea. of course, we were all concerned about that. we should be, he shouldn t have
said that, i think somebody brought up an old barack obama quote, where we talked about we have the weapons to annihilate north korea as well. something you don t want to do. again, it s been done before and politically, again unlike all the other things that steve bannon had him doing where he was just keying into 33% and offending the other 200 million americans out there, this is a speech, whether a lot of people in the media like it or not that most americans would agree with. this is, if not an 80/20 speech, this is at least 60 $40 peach. and represents again since i ve listened to the president talk about america s role in the world, it represents what he really believes in a way a lot of his speeches don t necessarily do. from the beginning to the end, it s what donald trump s world is, it s a complicated world.
the speech was contradictory, that s a part of the psyche of america s role in the world. he definitely made clear he believes kim jong-un will only respond to military force. he gave a nod to north korea, he personally said speaking man-to-man, i will destroy, that s dangerous, it s an escalation and takes it to a place that maybe we don t want to be or haven t been before. i believe he believes the only thing that will respond to north korea. i think one of the interesting things in this speech, david alluded to it, here you have a president that sound different nine months in or eight months in than he did during the campaign or his inauguration, suddenly he realizes, oh, wait a second, if i m going to do anything with north korea, if there is any hopes at all of doing anything with north korea, i better stop insulting the chinese every day, i better stop insulting all of
our allies every day, i better stop insulting everybody every day, diplomacy may be setting in a little bit. again, david said it was a conventional speech, but there was still the trump bomb bast. that said, this was a president eight months in has seen that you have to patch together alliances if you want to get anything done across the globe, even if are you the united states of marc. we will talk about this more, still ahead on morning joe andrea mitchell joins the table. plus three former cabinet itself on set. former secretary of state john kerry joins us and former secretary madeleine albright and tim ryan and senator bill cassidy the republican breathing new life into their efforts to repeal obamacare and tonight joe s band has a gig at the
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rogue state whose chief exports are vial, blood shed and chaos. it is time for the entire world to join us in demanding that iran s government end etc. pursuit of death and destruction. we cannot let a murderous regime continue these destabilizing activities while building dangerous missiles and we cannot abide by an agreement if it provides cover for the eventual construction of a nuclear program. the iran deal was one of the most and one-sided transactions. the united states has ever entered into. frankly, that deal is an embarrassment to the united states and i don t think you ve heard the last of it, believe me. believe me, of course, lifted
straight from lincoln s second inaugural. iran was the other country that president trump took to task in his general assembly speech. joining me now general columnist and contributor mike barnacle. chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of andrea mitchell reports, andrea mitchell. good to have you on board. good morning. what did you think of the speech overall? a gut reaction? a campaign rally, bombbastic overly ret toric am, aggressive and not multilateral. the wrong speech for the the location the venue, so to spook, i that, i totally agree with you, i think while many americans would agree with a lot of what he was saying, joe this speech i feel was for what our place is on the world stage, i don t think he articulated anything more than we ve seen before. he tried to define america fi t
first. i mean this is about working together. he used the word sovereignty 21 times never name checked russia for grabbing ukraine. if he s not going to challenge russia, at the same time when the secretary of state is at the very day meeting with the russians on ukraine as a matter of fact, it just get, he s goeding somebo goa somebody in north korea. the speech makes me very, very nervous. the bulk of the speech you spoke to is pretty much boiler plate, what you expect from an american president t. problem with the speech according to many, many people i spoke with yesterday after the speech is that every element he raised that s an issue is a global issue. it s not an american issue.
and we need america first is one thing, alone is a dangerous thing. terrorism, climate, cyber attacks, these are global issues. he never addressed them. he stood in front of a fairly useless body. every american knows that, the united nations but didn t try anything collectively to gather that body together to confront these global issues. i m sure it was enormously popular with donald trump s base, but he s the president no, i think that speech, mike, was enormously popular or somewhat popular with more than just donald trump s 33% or 35% or whatever it is now, i suspect that speech was popular with the majority of americans. you have the president going after north korea, going after iran, going after venezuela. i mean, there was a moment where a lot of conservatives were cheering yesterday, where he said venezuela is failing not because socialism has been implemented badly, it s because
socialism has been implemented well. nobody clapped in the chamber. he just sat and waited it out. i m just saying there is donald trump s i think it would be a mistake to think this only played 31, 32, 33%. i think a lot of americans probably agreed with that speech yesterday. we ll find out. but i don t know, a lot of americans, i don t know whether they re going to agree, we re going to destroy you, then after we destroy you, venezuela, watch out, cube barks i don t like you either. we can only do so much, joe. i think most americans know that. do we get the sense he was talking about invading all these countries? you get the sense he had warrior language underneath he wasn t afraid to go after any nation. david ignacious, i could be wrong. i didn t pick that up. but and maybe i m wrong, too,
i didn t sense the isolationism unilateralism that we saw nine months ago. like you said, i saw a tip of the hat to harry truman several times, which at least for those of us who you know look for such things, that s a tip of the hat to the history of the united nations to 1947 to the marshall plan. again, i m not saying this was, you know, i m not saying this was fdr, i m just saying i know that. this may not be donald trump january 20ing, 2017. joe, i thought it was a speech from a president who is enjalgaged in the world sometim too loudly and too inflammatory a way but engaged. i thought there was an interventionist theme, frankly, saying, you know, cuba is an
undemocratic place and we re going to put more pressure on cuba adding venezuela to the list. that was taken very seriously in latin america. i just would note one place where the rubber now meets the road. it s a clip you just played talking about iran, trump said, basically, we need to stop iranian missile testing. we need to stop dangerous activities in the middle east in the region. we need to do something so we re not providing through the iran nuclear agreement a cover for their eventual breakout when the agreement expires. that s a list that should get broad agreement about from europeans, certainly if we had a french diplomat, president macchron sitting with us today. we get an agreement that s the right list. how do you go about making that happen? that s what trump s got to figure out better. how does he organize the coalition that can make progress
on that? how does he engage iran? you can t just threaten and bludgeon them. that s not going to work. andrea, perhaps a cold comfort i may be getting from this speech is that we re actually setting up normal lines once again of division, conservatives cheering him on about what he s saying about iran and cuba. true. internationalists not doing that, instead of him saying i m wrecking the entire world order. i m going off obama s iran deal, which i said from the beginning i thought was a horrific deem him going after cuba. again, in two instances at least conservatives a lot of americans thought we gave a lot more than we got from these two regimes and their behavior over the past year suggests i take your point. there is a meeting tonight. for the first time rex tillerson will sit down at the table with everyone that negotiated the iran deal, including the foreign minister of eastern. that will be the fairs face-to-face meet work he said
last night to bret baier on fox he thinks it needs to be renegotiated. we heard yesterday that s not going to happen. so that s where the rubber is going to pleat the road. what is the plan? that s what i want to see on north korea. i do think iran is just rhetoric. i don t think we re going to be able to unwind that deal, just like macron said yesterday there will be no renegotiation of paris. it s pinnacle of this speech. in his own speech he took several shots at it. macron is one of the closest european allies to president trump. so we need the see some diplomacy here. how do they want to make this work. then we get to the point of who is available beyond, behind rex tillerson to do these negotiations? all right. coming up, former campaign chairman paul manafort is hitting back that he was wired by the fbi, now calling on the justice department inspector general to get involved. we ll dig into that when we come
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joining us now, national reporter care lee. flood to have you on board, a spokesman for campaign chair paul manafort is call on the justice department to investigate reports that manafort had previously been wiretapped be i the fbi, on monday cnn report thad the fbi has been interested in manafort as far back as 2014. the report, with i is unconfirmed by nbc news claimed manafort had been wiretapped both before and after he ran donald trump s presidential campaign, cnn citing unnamed sources plans the reported eavesdropping has been authorized under the foreign under surveillance intelligencing a. if response to that reporting, jason maloney, manafort spokesperson says if true it is a felony to reveal the existence of a fisa warrant, regardless of the fact that no charges ever emerged.
we have all seen the investigation is heating up, particularly on paul manafort. it seems paul manafort, we know public lip there is more reporting from cnn they re back as far as january, 2006, what more than can you tell is they re finding around paul manafort? we know they re looking back at his financial dealings, his involvements with foreign governments, you get the sense of that they re trying to squeeze him. and a lot of people believe mueller is trying to flip people like paul manafort to talk about other things they might know about the trump campaign and you really see that kind of it all squeezing in on him. if it s a rob with the reporting, though, show me unnamed sources, some of these things, i don t know that they re singly sourced, but you ve heard a lot of talk. you ve heard it. i certainly hard it even this suggestion that manafort is, has
been warned that he s going to be under indictment. it may be thinly sourced, itself. but it gets thrown out, it s gospel, everybody runs with it. we re in an incredible media environment. i do wonder, we always talk about all the lies that donald trump tells and all the lies that his administration tells. i m glad nbc news is slowing down on this one and waiting. and waiting and not confirm it. it seems witness they throw it out, i m not knocking cnn, but they throw out these stories, it s churned on twitter, on facebook, it becomes the gospel before we really know what the fact is, on something like a fisa warrant which is almost impossible to confirm. joe, if you think back to iran contra and watergate which was before my time, this is before social media. so now we are in a very exciting
newspaper war and a lot of stories being broken every night by the wall street journal and the new york times the washington post, mcclatchey, and everything gets churned through social media and we have to be very careful. i just think slowing down and making sure we double confirm everything ourselves, rather than repeating and picking up every apparent break through from our competitors, just in fairness to everyone. i think mueller now has to worry about being exposed if there are reports that are not properly sourced, this as carol said, too es are the crown jules of a fisa warrant. if this is incorrect or it is a week, it would be the first week we know of directly from mueller, we have other sources, obviously, but if there is at least a leak them damaging, they also have to be worried about their own credible.
and carol to that point, there is a huge difference between finding judge x to get a search warrant and the fisa warrant. exactly. explain the difference, how difficult those steps are. you have to prove that beyond what you would formnormally thif whether you would get a search warrant, it s a rigorous process. and the universal people that know about a fisa warrant is typically very small. have you just those focused on this particular investigation and the judge and that s it. and usually somebody who has a fisa on them doesn t know, that s paul manafort s lawyer doesn t know there is a fisa. at some point all of this will come out. we will see what is actually true in the investigation and everybody who covered this is going to have to look at their coverage and see where it matches up. and that s going to be, you know, it seems like sooner rather than later given how fast this is moving. again, explain how secretive
this process is, even if you are in a legal community, you don t know the existence of who the fisa judges are for the most part. everything is so secretive about this process that, yeah, i would be really surprised if mueller s team was leaking that there was a fisa warrant against man jarring fomanafort. because of a no knock search, they are squeezing manafort. this is not your typical white collar crime investigation. those tactics of illegal break-ins into his apartment and then going up to his bedroom door. that does not happen in any previous investigation of any kind of possible official crime. andrea mitchell. thank you very much. you bet. and still ahead on morning
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bad deal for our people. congressman, what did you think of the president s speech at the general assembly yesterday here in new york city? micked reserves, conservatives, republicans liked it. he talked about america first, not an unfamiliar theme coming from him, all the way back to the campaign, but specifically the rhetoric on north korea, where do you think that put us in our back and forth with that country? barnicle actually i don t want to agree with barnicle, but he made a good point. these aren t american problems. these are global problems. i don t think he s being the kind of quarterback that the american president needs to be, pulling people together, handling these in a multilateral way. what he said about iran is true. i think we do have to have a firmer position on iran. they are funding terrorism throughout the middle east. i like that aspect of the speech. overall you have to do this together. nothing you ll be able to achieve on your own. was the iran deal a bad deal, as he said yesterday? i don t think so. it wasn t a great deal but it
was a solid deal, a deal that had to be done. the united states and basically president obama placed a bet. there s a lot of young people in iran, a generation of people that are listening to western music. they have western technology. and we re making a bet that if we can get these younger people to be slightly more understanding, slightly more moderate, and the iranian election proved that, that there are a lot of moderates in iran. we have to try to engage them the best we can, even though the deal s not perfect. republicans and tax cuts, they seem to be moving your way in talking about not cutting the estate tax, not lowering the top rate for the wealthiest americans. is that encouraging to you? do you think you see the world where you could work with republicans on tax cuts? if they stay away from the traditional supply side of economics i think a lot of democrats will sit down and say hey, is this going to benefit working class people in akron, ohio, youngstown, ohio? i think they ll be willing
partners. but, again, we ve got to make sure that some of these things, like any corporate tax reform, for example, that is revenue positive. you have 100 of the top fortune 500 companies not paying any corporate tax at all. so that s not a progressive tax. if you want to lower the rate you have to make sure that you re closing the loopholes and getting some money. and the president is saying we re not going to hurt the middle class on this. so, we ll see. carol? congressman, you have health care, tax reform, daca. what do you think that you that congress can actually get done? and how do you feel about democrats cutting deals with this president? we got sent there to get something done. i don t think you need to violate your values in the process. but i think we should try to be willing partners. we have got to get the political process moving forward here and no one is going to get what they want 100% of the time. i think it s encouraging that
people are at least having conversations. the challenges that the country faces are enormal, economic inequality, diabetes. 3 billion more people will move into the middle class in the next couple of decades arnold t around the world. we can do it everybody going on their own. same with the speech on the u.n. we can t do this stuff alone. these problems are too big. we have to come together. i m encouraged by it. congressman tim ryan, good to see you. thanks for coming on. thanks for having me. appreciate it. new reaction to president trump s address to the u.n. general assembly. we ll speak live with former secretary of state john kerry and madeleine albright and former homeland security secretary michael chertoff. and we continue to follow hurricane maria, making landfall on puerto rico as we speak. at winds of 155 miles an hour, that s the strongest hurricane to hit the island since 1932. officials there have warned residents to get out or die. we ll get a live report from an
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bill, how is it looking? worst of it is over portions of puerto rico. 155-mile-per-hour winds. that makes this the strongest hurricane to make landfall in puerto rico since 1928. so they re in the middle of something right now that no one alive has ever experienced on the island. or they don t remember it if they were a little kid. here is the eye of the storm. i can t show you any more radar imagery. two radars in puerto rico are now down. with the power outages it s to be expected. radar has run right through it. we can t show you the radar, unfortunately, to track the bands and eyes anymore. we have to use satellite imagery to do it. winds are 155. it didn t make landfall as a cat 5. this is the extreme top end of a cat 4 and windfield expanded. instead of one concentrated area of extreme catastrophic damage we ll have widespread destruction over a much larger area.
here is where it s currently located to the south of san juan. the worst and the strongest winds arriving in san juan. we re hoping to show you our reporters in san juan. we can t do that now either because the winds are so strong and so intense it s knocking our single down. it s also not the safest for them either. we re kind of in that blackout period when the center of the storm is doing its worst damage and worst destruction. many people in the building have family and friends. the power was even going out. a lot of them were still able to call and talk to their family and loved ones, saying how horrific it is, houses on the coast blown away. even in san juan, windows are being blown out all over the place. this is exactly what we feared with a cat 4. it s not until about 2:00 p.m. that the center goes off the coast of puerto rico. so, we still have another, let s say five, six, seven hours of destruction to take place across the island. and then as the sun is setting, hopefully we ll begin to see just how bad it was, guys. joe and mika, i mean, you know, we have friends.
your makeup artist has family and friends there. and he s just, you know we re praying. he can t believe how bad it is and, yeah, a lot of praying. walt ait and see, and hope a pray. bill karins, thank you. we ll check in with you all morning long as this hurricane passes through. david ignatius and mark halperin are still with us. from the author of the book world in disarray, and elizabeth joins us. ongoing crisis with north korea, president trump held nothing back. now north korea s reckless pursuit of ballistic missiles threatens the entire world with unthinkable loss of human life. no nation on earth has an interest in seeing this band of
criminals arm itself with nuclear weapons and missiles. the united states has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. rocket man is on on a suicide mission for himself and his regime. the scourge of our planet today is a handful of small regimes. if the righteous many do not confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph. the united states is ready, willing and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary. that s what the united nations is all about. that s what the united nations
is for. let s see how they do. it is time for all nations to work together, to isolate the kim regime until it ceases its hostile behavior. richard haas, a lot of conservatives yesterday like, for instance, rich lowery saying this speech, minus some of the hyperbole that george w. bush could have delivered in 2004, 2005. you listen to him say if the righteous many doesn t confront the wicked few. he calls out north korea, he calls out iran. he calls out venezuela. is this axis of evil part two? you had, obviously, iran, north korea, a little bit of venezuela, little bit of terrorists, elements of that. there was an obsession with sovereignty, which wasn t something that george w. bush particularly focused on. i didn t notice that american sovereignty was somehow under dire threat.
we still have our veto at the united nations and can decide what climate ceilings are in the paris agreement. what was missing was any diplomatic position for the rest of the world to rally around. i don t know if that s an echo of george w. bush or not but this was not a speech in any way that was designed to garner international support. david ignatius, what was your takeaway from this speech? i thought it had bombastic rhetoric, as always with donald trump. he dropped the equivalent of twitter bombs. when i looked at it, as you and i have discussed, i found there was an awful lot of conventional language, especially about the united nations that, to be honest, i found welcomed. i thought that the president was attaching his america first view as a stress on sovereignty to the united nations and its institutions. he has become a champion of u.n. reform. that s good. he actually talked about doing more on human rights issues. that s a rare moment for the trump administration.
i think the issue is how does he now get traction? he set an agenda for iran. as i hear it yet it doesn t talk about tearing up the deal. how is he going to engage iran to get the changes in iranian behavior he s talking about? we didn t hear any of that yesterday. elizabeth, you talk to the people out in the street and hear this rhett about north korea, it worries them. the elevated talking about destroying north korea, the threat of military action against north korea is something that has people alarmed and on notice in this country. if you re kim jong-un and you re sitting in pyongyang listening to that speech, does that serve as a deterrent if you re that man or is thdoes that stir up - i can t put myself in kim jong-un s place but to totally
destroy korea, the threat is not helpful. this will not be a deterrent and there s a real risk of escalating of escalation here. it was not seen as helpful. and i would agree with richard that the emphasizing american sovereignty so much, he mentioned the word 21 times, is a first for the united states. it was very much of an america first policy. you could see in the room that there was a lot of silence. it was not a well received speech at the u.n. mark halperin, what do you think? the president believes in multilateralism when possible and unilateralism when necessary. the problem is the implementation of these things. the speech is just going to be rhetoric. what he laid no groundwork to figure out how you actually
build multilateral support for these things. i m wondering what you think china and russia thought of that speech. would they be threatened by it in any way? russia was essentially let off the hook for their interference with american sovereignty during the election. exactly. ukraine was mentioned once. no indication, for example, to provide lethal defense of the ukraine. from their point of view, the north koreans will double down. they look what happened to ukraine, libya, iraq. when the president used phrases like totally destroy, you can t do total destruction with conventional weapons. that suggested under certain circumstances the united states might actually resort to nuclear weapons. from china s point of view i had a long meeting with the foreign minister this week and they hear that. it moves us farther apart from china and north korea. obviously, i would have never wanted any president to say that. but 25 years later, what moves us closer to china? what is going to get china to
stop funding north korea? north korea is basically china s 54th state. the chinese are allowing this to happen. so, tell me, what in the world works, richard? we ve had this conversation now for some time. what should donald trump have said yesterday that would have moved the ball? two things. one is china will never stop funding north korea in part. at what point do they realize if they let north korea continue on a pace where they can deliver nuclear weapon to los angeles, san francisco, portland and seattle they re actually acting to destabilize north korea? when does that not just destabilize north korea, but bring about i think the policy is short sighted here. what the president could have
said is what would the united states put forward in order to bring about a freeze? we don t want to put forward a stoppage of all of our military exercises. why didn t he say, joe, we ll agree to a peace treaty to formally end the korean war? i heard nothing diplomatically. for eight months there s been a diplomatic vacuum. i don t know what rex tillerson is doing, other than downsizing the state department. the president had a major opportunity to put something forward that the rest of the world could rally around. he was missing in action diplomatically. david ignatius, what is rex tillerson and secretary mattis, obviously get together regularly. they are shoulder to shoulder. obviously secretary mattis is going along with general mcmaster at the forefront of figuring out what to do with north korea. what have you heard? what is their plan? joe, i m told that secretary
tillerson has two channels to pyongyang that he has been using to good effect, to try to convey the following message. the u.s. is prepared to begin negotiations with kim, basically without conditions. they fought a fthought a few we they may have gotten the response they wanted. they praised the north koreainform s. but there s no question that the u.s. hopes to be in that negotiation. trump didn t say it publicly yesterday but the u.s. position is well known, especially to china. there s been an extensive behind the scenes discussion with the chinese about what to do. in many ways, kim s actions need
to be seen as an attack on china as much as on the u.s. kim is driving the chinese crazy. he is creating instability on their border. he rebuffs their approaches. they ask him to stop testing, he goes ahead. richard knows well that back in 2003, i think was the date, the chinese very quietly, without ever taking did stop oil deliveries to kim as a way of pressuring him into the negotiations that became the six-party talks. guess what, it worked. it didn t take very long. i think that s the kind of thing the u.s. is thinking about here. why wouldn t they be doing it now? richard, elizabeth, david? why didn t china do this two, three months ago? north korea now has taken steps to reduce their ability to china, halted oil. it s recently doubled in north korea. why? they took some off the mark. plus north korea has the ability to make oil out of coal. they ve reduced their
vulnerability. they know it s coming. there s no love lost between them. they fully expect sanctions from china. they ll never be total. china is actually worried that sangs get too great, north korea might actually start a war out of desperation. but north koreans know that sanctions will be ratcheted up. are we at a place where the united states and the world is are we at a stage where we re accepting a nuclear north korea? is that a feta com plea and we have to deal with it? there is a nuclear north korea. yes, we ve within there some time. that is moving toward projecting that nuclear power toward the west coast of the united states. we re moving towards that. i think that, yes, they don t want to talk about that. they re talking about some limited military action in naval blockade, a talk of cyber actions.
intercepting a missile. that is what mattis is talking about quietly. we ve been moving toward that for a decade now. but, elizabeth, the acceptance of that, is the united states not the there will never be an official acceptance of it. i don t see where it goes the aye would be interested to know what richard thinks, if that is the ultimate end game here. if not an official acceptance a de facto acceptance of north korea able to strike cities on west coast and sell this nuclear technology to our enemies like isis. only five countries are formally allowed to be nuclearized weapon states. north korea has taken notes and said we re going to become a de facto nuclear weapons state and have talked about that.
and this is regime and country survival. we ll never formally accept it. the question is whether we re prepared to attack it or manage it through some combination of deterrence, defense and economic pressure. elizabeth, it feels like we re painted into a corner at this point. they ve ratcheted up sanctions at the u.n. what s left on the table is military action. is there another option we should be looking at besides sanctions or the military? besides intercepting a missile, no. i think it is managing a problem and i think ultimately there will be this is what we will live with. trump has a lot of rhetoric. i think it s counterproductive at this point. is it just rhetoric, mark
halperin? do you think that donald trump will leave the white house, whenever he leaves the white house with the legacy of being the man that allowed north korea to strike the west coast with nuclear weapons? some of the responsibility is the last three administrations that weren t able to stop their march to developing nuclear technology. most of the problems we face in the world now because we don t have any leverage or enough leverage over china and russia. in this case russia continues to say we don t want refugees. we don t want an american military presence in a unified korea. he is doing it differently than the previous three presidents who failed. i think he will be. elizabeth, thank you so much. we continue to follow hurricane maria, by the way, battering puerto rico right now as a category 4 storm. we ll go live to san juan as soon as our reporters are safe enough to do so. also ahead, we ll talk to republican congressman bill cassidy about the heat he s catching for his obamacare repeal plan.
plus three former cabinet secretaries join us here on set, former secretary of state john kerry, madeleine albright and former homeland security michael chertoff. why not come to the cutting room? joe s band has a gig there to mark the friday release of his new ep. it s going to be fun. the show kicks off early. richard haas dance. in the middle of the dance floor, richard haas. all over twitter. reminded me, willie, of michael jackson, 1980. i danced with richard haas. it starts at 7:00. we ll always have our dance. tonight is the streamed live on facebook.com/scarborou facebook.com/scarborough. you re watching morning joe .
joining us now from san juan, puerto rico, gadi schwartz, following hurricane maria, which has made landfall there now. what s it look like? reporter: i want to show you what it looks like right now. take a look over here. this is how hard the wind is blowing. over there on the far side of the parking lot, it s impossible to make out right now, but the water levels are starting to come up. right now, we are at one of the shelters, one of the main shelters here in san juan. this whole structure is concrete. so it s basically bomb proof, but you ve got these openings right here. that was the protected side. this is another corner here that you can see out. and we ve seen debris flying all over the place. in fact, right over here, you ve got some you ve got some downed trees. i m going to take you in over here real fast. i want to show you what the shelter looks like. watch these swinging doors. those doors blew open a little while ago this is what was the shelter earlier. this whole coliseum was filled with people.
they ve now taken those people and have them in the wings on their cots because the roof started leaking. there are now concerns about things that might fall down. they are saying that this structure is still sound. guys, back to you. yikes. incredible picture. stay safe. check back in with you in a few minutes. joining us now on set, former secretary of state madeleine albright. so great to have you on set with us. thank you so much. thank you. your take on president trump s address before the u.n. general assembly? what s your gut? well, my gut is, i m glad he went. okay. and that he actually spoke some positive things about the united nations. i think it was actually two speeches. one in which it was written in a way to be much more nationalistic. going up and talking about america first in that location and then having listened to many
speeches there. the tone of it was really bad, i think. and in so many ways, we all want to make sure that america is strong. but i think his speech weakened america. and i think it s something that will make us very hard to carry on a lot of diplomatic work that we have to. but i m going to try to be positive. right. and see that he recognizes multilateral action and the history of the u.n. it s important. part of it now will be as to whether they fund the u.n. we, by not paying or funding, is very hard to get reform if, in fact, you don t support the funding of it. so those are the aspects of it. we talk around the table often about how maybe a slight move to the middle by donald trump is always met with a harsh tweet, where he throws red meat to his base. did you get a sense yesterday
that the two speeches he gave one may have been sort of a tip of the hat to the united nations and an understanding of the realities that have sat in on him over the past eight months, but another part of the speech might have been for domestic consumption, for his base, saying, yes, yes, i m at the united nations but, my friends, don t worry. i m going to say national sovereignty a thousand times so you can take that back to your republican club meetings and let them know donald s still with you. i think you re absolutely right. mostly you don t go to the u.n. to give a domestic speech. i think that he was doing that. in so many ways. but it will hurt, ultimately. i know people don t like the world multilateralism. it has too many syllables and ends in ism. but ultimately it s about partnerships and he has to do
that kind of work. i do think the language generally that he used was so harsh that i think, in some ways, it strengthened kim jong-un, made him the center of attention. yep. richard, you re laughing i totally agree with that. sort of laughing when i was talking about domestic consumption. i take it you agree? because people need to understand for donald trump s hard base, him stepping in to the united nations is a statement, is a betrayal. the u.n. is the great symbolism in that world. a lot of literature about ultimately they ll take away american sovereignty, the second amendment rights. so for him to go to the u.n. is totally inconsistent with his base. it wasn t a coincidence that he used the word sovereignty 21 times. that was his way of reassuring people that he s not going to be taken in by the fact that he s showing up in new york at this party. secretary albright, the north
korean problem is one you confronted as ambassador of the u.n. and then secretary of state. the president said if that nation continued its pursuit of nuclear weapon he would, quote, totally destroy north korea. at least that the u.s. had the capability to do that. that s a pretty specific threat. where are we? where are we left 25 years or so after you all first confronted the problem of north korea? what hasn t worked for a generation and what s left? let s say it is a difficult there s no question it s a difficult issue. during the clinton administration, there were no addition of material, no nuclear weapons and no icbms. we were in the middle of negotiations when i left there in october, presented it when the bush administration had won the election and secretary powell was willing to continue the negotiations, and they didn t. so, there are any number it s the most complicated history i ve ever seen. but what is left are all the tools in the tool box and there has to be a better whole of
government approach to it and working within is the six-party talks. we just can t decide that diplomacy does not work because i do think that some of the they need to do more with the sanctions and they need to do more with diplomacy. and we have to have deterrence. i fully agree. to put it in kind of def-con highest now is something that s troubling. it makes it difficult for anybody to talk to them. talking to somebody you don t like is actually more important. critics would say we ve ratcheted up sanctions over and over and over again for 20, 25 years now and there s no response from north korea, except to continue its pursuit. i m not calling for a military strike. i m just asking if you believe that sanctions will actually solve this problem? i don t think they ll solve the problem. but i do think looking at what is available, i think what ultimately the six-party talks, obviously, talk about what the chinese need to do. and then i find interesting the
fact that if he did, in fact, explode a thermal nuclear weapon, that there were news about the fact that some radioactive material had gone into the airspace of china and the russians, and i think that is something that they are afraid of. and, richard, you had talked about the fact of five nuclear powers. but i think the nonproliferation treaty works to the extent it does because people understand they don t want radioactive over their territory. david ignatius will jump in from washington. david? secretary albright, you and i have talked often over the last month about whether the liberal international order, as we often call it, can survive the trump presidency. and i m curious. after this major speech by donald trump at the united nations, do you think that s more or less likely? you do need to work with the
other countries and he had not made clear enough sovereignty is one word. but i think in terms of what governments are like, how you, in fact, talk to your own people without riling them all up and then looking at the institutions that you can work with. the press, the judiciary and we have spent a lot of time thinking about this, you and i, and others. and i think i am worried. sovereignty is a very important part. but the question and richard is the expert on a lot of sovereignty. what are the obligations of sovereignty? how do you work with others? and what is our responsibility towards other countries? secretary albright, let me ask you briefly about the united nations generally, 25 years later. 25 years after you said the u.n. must reform or die, you saw it up close. 25 years later, we ve seen syria unravel. and the united nations and the international order couldn t bring that chaos to an end.
we ve seen north korea continue its march over the past 25 years. now, again, nothing meaningful can be put together by an international community. what do you say to americans? what do you say to members of the united nations about its ineffectiveness over, let s just say, the past year? and how does it become more effective in international affairs again? one thing we do have to keep in mind, it is a combination, a collection of nation states. sovereignty is the important part. and we can blame the secretariat and international bureaucrats but ultimately it is a decision by the nation states. and the united states and this was my problem when i was there. we were behind in paying our peacekeeping bills. and then congress unilaterally decided to lower the amount we were going to pay. and it s very hard to call for reform if you re not paying, leading the british, our best
friends, actually, to deliver a message they had waited over 200 years to say, representation without taxation. and we do, in fact, have to make it work. the new secretary gutierrez is bound and determined to move on reform. then the cliche, if it didn t exist we would invent it. it is a necessary way to have countries operate together and find common goods. i do think also one thing i ve been pushing for a lot, the private sector has to be at the table early. public/private partnership in working on some of these problems is important. you can t bring them in at the last minute. and there needs to be a way to reform the u.n. there s no question. but in order for us to push that agenda, we have to believe that it can be done. secretary madeleine albright, it is great to have you on this show. she has tried to be positive, joe. she is trying to be positive. trying. and, of course, we need the seat afar right there.
just critical, richard. always good to see you. thank you so much. from one former secretary of state to another, john kerry joins the table. and we continue to keep an eye on puerto rico as hurricane maria is battering the island right now with 155-mile-per-hour winds. we ll be right back. (vo) dogs have evolved,
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former secretary of state john kerry. so great to have you here. happy to be here. of course, we want to talk about what everyone is talking about. that is the boston red sox winning in extra innings last night. i know, extra innings. at least three people here who can t wait for the playoffs. that s right. that s right. yankee fans, richard and i. i said at least three people. exactly. so, you just got back from ukraine. we re going to get to the u.n. speech in a second. you just got back from ukraine. what can you tell us about the state of affairs there? they re in a critical place. they ve got to make fundamental decisions about corruption, getting rid of it. they need to attract private investment. the government has to show that it s serious. how much of a shadow does
russia still cast over enormous, obviously. it s the ball game. but they really have their destiny in their own hands. it s up to them to decide that they are going to be a model nation for transformation. and they re still stuck they re trying to have it both ways. i think we made it very clear, richard, myself, others who were there, that this say critical moment for them. richard, any fear of any realistic fear in ukraine of the russians moving westward? no. i think people understand that crimea is not coming back any time soon. the most interesting, positive thing is the russians put out an offer about, what, two weeks ago now talking about peacekeeping forces in the eastern part of the ukraine. and the question is, does that mean that maybe putin understands some of the costs of what they re doing? are they beginning to look for something of an exit? i don t know. the recommendation everybody made to the ukrainian government, we all saw the president, was why don t you at
least explore that, see if the russians are up to something, if it s a ploy, expose it. if it s not a ploy, work with it. the president s speech at the united nations didn t dig into it much further. what did you think of the speech overall? joe, i think you all have talked about it a fair amount already. but, look, what is the purpose of the speech by the president of the yunited states to the united nations? it is to sell america s policy, to bring countries to the table in order to achieve your goals. and the president gave a speech about america first, which winds up, in effect, i think, making america last and diplomacy last. or making america alone fundamentally. it pushes people away. i mean, this childish kind of the rhetoric. if name calling was going to solve this problem, donald trump would have already solved the problem. so, that s not going to move
anybody to do what you have to do. you have to ask yourself, is america safer because of rocket man? did we bring anybody to the table as a consequence of that language? you don t give a speech at the united nations to talk to your base. you have plenty of opportunities to do that. you give a speech at the united nations to bring people to the table. what do you need more than anything? you need china to do things. china provides 100% of the fuel to north korea. every plane, every truck, every car that moves in north korea, china s doing that. every bit of north korea s financing goes through chinese banks. china would shut north korea down in one week, two days. why don t they? because they keep saying we re afraid of the stability issue. we re afraid there s going to be a massive implosion of the regime. in reality, joe, i think the reason is that they re fearful that you know they don t know what comes afterwards, for sure. but that could, in fact, be
guaranteed. there are ways i talked to a number of people. there are absolutely ways in which to guarantee a transition here, guarantee that something happens. so, look, i think that also, he invokes the marshall plan. i love the marshall plan. i ve recommended that we have a modern day martial plan that uses the private sector to combat terrorism, grow countries and deal with young people who have no jobs. did he mention no. he has a 37% cut in the budget. that s his recommendation. willie? so it s i really think the speech lost an opportunity to be able to do what presidents should do there, not isolate america in the minds of lots of leaders, but bring people together. he really should have made it a case for china. that would have been a legitimate diplomatic gambit, why chien wra and how china could do more. that would have been valuable. when you were secretary of state, dealing with the north korean problem, what were the
most hopeful avenues for you? maybe we can get a deal done to stop the nuclear program this way. why didn t it happen if it was i keep hearing people say, hey, we tried this for 25 years. we ve had diplomacy and it didn t work. no, that s not true. we have less sanctions against north korea today, which has a nuclear weapon, than we had against iran, which did not have a nuclear weapon. now how do you figure that out? we brought more pressure to bear on iran to come to the table and negotiate. when people say we ve tried no, we haven t tried everything. we need to put greater pressure on sanctions because that s the way you exhaust diplomacy. and if donald trump is ever going to get to the point where he has to, quote, destroy north korea, which we all understand, this could come to blows. but you don t have to brandish that every moment so that it s always the big stick and no
talk, literally, softly or otherwise. you have got to have both. and there s no sense here of diplomatic initiative or effort by them to bring russia or china to the table to do this. now you look at what we did over a period of time with iran. it took us 35 years to actually get iran right. and we finally got iran right, as george mitchell once said. you have 1,000 bad days in negotiations and one good day. it takes patience. and what we need to do with north korea is actually work with china, russia, others, to ratchet those sanctions up to a point where they have an impact and exhaust the possibilities of diplomacy so that if it came to blows, everybody in the world would understand why. it s a last resort, not a first resort. didn t you just say china was not a willing partner right now in doing that? china has ratcheted up four times. we went to china.
we ratcheted up sanctions. then we ratcheted them up a second time. i ve supported the trump administration in their diplomacy to try to ratchet it up. we had oil embargo sanctions in the last round. the chinese walked that back. but we did ratchet it up. with the last firing we have the reason to put even more pressure on and go back to china. look, you ve got to go through that process. by the way and this is really important talking about getting rid of the iran deal and going after iran, we all have we re all aware that iran is doing things we don t like and there s things we want iran to stop doing. if you go after the iran deal and iran the way he did yesterday, and talk about throwing it out you make your diplomatic efforts of solving north korea far more complicated whachlt does north korea think, looking at the way he s talking about shredding a deal that was made? if that s the way america
behaves in the world, throwing out something that works because you don t like it, but it works, you re actually inviting a much more active path. mike barnicle? another deal on the verge of being shredded, the paris accord. hasn t been spoken about much. the trump administration is on the path of destroying the paris accord. we had a two-day conference at yale that ended yesterday. secretary jim backer, former republican treasury and secretary of state came. he spoke about the need to price carbon. hank paulson, former republican secretary of treasury, jeff immelt, general electric. we had a group of former secretaries of energy and all of whom talked about how what we re seeing today should convince people that they need to move on climate change. irma, first hurricane to ever
have sustained winds over 185 miles an hour for 25 hours. harvey, largest record rainfall in the history of hurricanes. wildfires burning out of control in the western part of our country. the evidence is building all around the world. every leader in africa, every leader in europe, most leaders in asia all believe that climate change is happening and mankind is pushing it into faster acceleration. paris, almost 200 nations came together. and all of them agreed simultaneously not to accept the burden imposed by any other country. donald trump has not told the truth to the american people about this. the burden that we ve accepted is one we defined. he doesn t have to pull out of paris. he just has to change the targets. when he s talking about terms that are more acceptable to the american people, they re terms we set ourselves. terms that america set
ourselves. he could change. they re voluntary. here is the good news, though, joe, 29 states in america have already passed renewable portfolio laws. eight states have voluntary laws. you have 38 states in america, the governors of which will convene today at 12:30 here in new york. many of those governors will announce they re going to continue to meet paris. so while the president may say i m pulling out of paris, 80% of the american people, in these 38 states, they re going to continue on, mayors, governors and we re going to meet paris standards and i think we can exceed them if we do what technology allows us to do. david ignatius in washington and then richard haas. david ignatius? i want to go back to iran. do you think there s any way to make progress on the things president trump talked about yesterday, dealing with iranian
missile testing, with iranian regional behavior, in some way, trying to figure out a way to extend the duration of this agreement, without blowing that agreement up? absolutely. and i have reason to believe that because i met with foreign ministers in oslo some months ago and we raised every one of those issues. he has stated that with european community in the region they are prepared to deal with those countries directly involved. and they are prepared to discuss regional security issues that would have a profound impact. you don t push the possibilities of conversation. if all you do is rattle the sabre, you are shutting off the opportunity to do these things.
yesterday it was made more difficult because of the level of insult. you can raise the issues. there are ways to do it. but the way it was done yesterday will make it harder for them to engage with us. but they are, i know, absolutely prepared to engage with europe and regional countries and that should be put to the test. secretary, your successor has made focus to downsize the amount of resources available to diplomacy, to shrink the department. he hasn t filled a lot of positions. do you think you can succeed at secretary of state with the kind of trajectory secretary tillerson is taking? i think it s extremely difficult to do diplomacy without diplomats. the world needs more of the leadership that the united states has calculated to reach out and build alliances and do the things that we 2 billion people, 2 billion young people in the world under the age of 15.
1.8 billion between the ages of 15 and 24. many of them are in places where extremists are recruiting them, bringing them over because they don t have opportunity. they don t have a say in their country. they don t have the possibility of a future. we need to be deeply engaged in possibilities of legitimate opportunity and work and taking our values and marketing them. that s the best of american diplomacy. when you cut off the ability of your ambassadors we don t have ambassadors in many of the critical countries in the world. we don t have assistant secretaries of state to meet. countries have told me we don t know who to talk to so how does the world get safer if you re not doing the hard work of diplomacy. thank you so much. your tan, your rested and ready, you re younger than everybody else talking about running for president of the united states. is it kerry 2020. i don t have any plans right now honestly.
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meteorologist bill karins with the check on the storm s latest track, bill? just got the new 8:00 advisory in from the hurricane center. down to 150-miles-per-hour winds. now the center s only 15 miles from san juan, puerto rico. that s the population center of puerto rico. 2.5 million people just to the north and that northern eye wall is now over-the-top of them. we don t have radar to show you because the radar went down in san juan. we do have super-san juan, puerto rico, gabe gutierrez. the situation here in san juan is dire. the winds here have been intensifying and the worst is yet to come. we have taken shelter in a concrete structure. there s a wall blocking me, blocking the wind to our right. as you can see behind me, there s a scene of utter chaos. authorities here have been warning people for days that if they live in wooden structures or flood prone areas that they needed to evacuate or die. well the time for that has
passed. there s nowhere to turn at this point. we have seen parts of buildings being blown off, debris strewn throughout the streets, trees being toppled and communications are starting to go down. the power is out too. a large chunk of san juan already. this in a region that was raised by hurricane irma but it knocked out power to 75% of the island. maria could knock out power to some parts of this region for four to six months. authorities are warning that this is will be catastrophic. we expect to get hit by these howling winds and torrential rain for the next several hours. there s no telling how much damage this could cause but a big concern as well is the storm surge. back to you. wow, incredible pictures and his hotel room is to the back of the strongest winds purposely to show you the winds. they re not into his rooms. here s the update from the
hurricane center. we re still category 4, 150-miles-per-hour winds, moving to the northwest at 10-miles-per-hour. here s imagery. there s the eye. this the worst case scenario, cat 4, northern eye wall right over the most populated areas of puerto rico by about 2:00 p.m. today we take it off the northern coast of puerto rico so by late this afternoon, the winds will relax. we ll have a couple hours during the late afternoon to for the officials to assess just how bad it is out there and the concerns are with the winds and we already had the storm surge on the southeast coastline and we still have to deal with the flooding rains. there are mountains on puerto rico. we have flash flood emergencies for rivers that have risen 20 feet. the water kills more people than the wind. so there s the surge as far as the rainfall flooding goes, even though you re not getting the worst of the winds, western
portions are doing the worst of that. i want to finally finish up, so you the long range track here, turks and caicos and we watch is t going in between the southeastern united states and bermuda. it s going to parallel the u.s. coastline as we go into next week. some computers have it getting very close to the outer banks, others close to new england but it ll be a much weaker storm and that s seven days away. back to you. thank you. a very dangerous situation rapidly developing. we have the washington post s david ignatius. so should we get to president trump s remarks. sure. we have health care. yeah. which the republicans are once again trying to pass an absolutely terrible bill this one i m curious. the over/under maybe 13, 14% for its approval rating.
yeah. they just never learn. it s really incredible. it s the hot stove. putting their hand on the hot stove. we ve been mocking donald trump for doing what only 33% of the country wants and which, by the way, phillip he s gone up three weeks in a row. i wonder why. he s not trying to aggravate 200 million people. what s wrong with them? they re not even on steve bannon s 33% plan, they re on their own 17% plan. every one of these health care bills are horrible. everyone is worst than the last and they re going to do it again and once again, we re going to reorder 1/6th of the economy and we re going to rush it before we have the congressional budget office actually giving us a score and we don t really need the cbo score. we ll get to this, it s going to
be the we just got to talk about this for one second. it s unbelievable the so-called conservatives saying we re going to reorder one sixth of the economy and have absolutely no idea what impacts it s going to have on all of america on their health care. it is the most radical thing anybody could do. and they have a real deadline of september 30th, so that s next saturday i believe. it s about a week and a half when they can get reconciliation and get 50 votes and have mike pence break that tie. they ll have a ticking clock. and if you look at the pill it s not clear to me what they ve changed to give someone like susan collins or lisa murkowski who objected to the last bill reason to vote for this bill. it has all the worst qualities of the last health care bills and again, we always play this game. what if democrats had done what
republicans had done, imagine what the press would say? imagine if democrats tried to pass a bill in seven or eight days, reorder one sixth of the economy and rushed through it without a congressional budget office? republicans, right wing radio, everybody on the far right would be going absolutely ballistic right now. if you ask why would any of the republicans oppose the previous bill support this one by when it doesn t meet what they want, it s because of the deadline. with a 13% plan. with a bill that has not gone through regular order and has a lot of the same problems as the original legislation and, by the way, even if the senate does this it s not entirely clear that the house would pass the same bill so they may be going
through all this political torture for something that would never get to the president s desk. john mccain showed the courage he showed before, why would he say, oh, mitch mcconnell and donald trump have a deadline so i m going to have people remember me for passing a health care bill that strips health care coverage from tens of millions of people and something we do radekly without even looking at a congressional budget office, without doing regular order. john mccain was so right when he talked about regular order. yeah. that s you want to know one of the things along with gerrymandering that has made washington as sick as it s been over the past several years politically, it s no regular order. they get two or three people in a room, they draft up something and then they shove down the rest of congress s and the american peoples throat. i highly doubt that john mccain is worried about these false deadlines and is going to let his legacy be that he reordered
one sixth of the economy without in such a reckless, radical, irresponsible way and i just don t know why my friends in the republican party keep going back and doing the same stupid thing over and over again this year. it s as if they re desperate to make nancy pelosi speaker of the house. then that would be helpful. now to president trump s first to nancy pelosi. which we could use leadership, real moral leadership in the republican party right now as we turn to president trump s first remarks yesterday to the united nations general assembly where he held nothing back regarding the ongoing crisis with north korea. now, north korea s reckless pursuit of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles threatens the entire world with unthinkable loss of human life.
no nation on earth has an interest in seeing this band of criminals arm itself with nuclear weapons and missiles. the united states has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. rocket man is on a suicide mission from himself and for his regime. the president went on to praise the u.n. security council for the harsh sanctions against pyongyang specifically thanking china and russia for joining the unanimous vote while also calling on the u.n. as a whole to step up its involvement. the scourge of our planet today is a small group of rogue regimes that violate every principal in which the u.n. is
based. if the righteous many do not confront the wicked few then evil will triumph. the united states is ready, willing and able but hopefully this will not be necessary. that s what the wrunited nation is all about. that s what the united nations is for, let s see how they do. it is time for all nations to work together to isolate the kim regime until it ceases its hostile behavior. north korea s prime minister walked out in protest before president trump began his speech. i thought it was just me yesterday, i was we were traveling and doing a lot of different things so i didn t get to see the speech when it was going down but i was reading my twitter feed and breaking news and it seemed that donald trump
had doused kerosene all over himself and set himself on fire and was like setting off fireworks in there and then i started looking at the text of the speech and i saw, yes, very strong language towards north korea and language that you and i wouldn t prefer him to use but he also criticized iran, he also criticized venezuela, he criticized rogue regimes. he spoke glowing of the martial plan. talking about the righteous many against the evil few and i was okay, so i m missing something here and then i read your op ed later in the afternoon where you said this was actually you take away the bomb bast this is a fairly conventional speech from a president at the united nations. joe, i had the same reaction,
the speech had zingers in it guaranteed to send the news media crazy, we ll going to totally destroy north korea, this repetition of the president s new favorite catch phrase, rocket man has clearly replaced crooked hillary as his go-to phrase. what was fascinating to me in the speech was the president in his first speech at the u.n. was embracing the legacy of this institution. he mentioned president truman, the founding father of that world twice in his speech. he mentioned the marshal plan. complimentary of the marshal plan. the building blocks of the world that you and i live in and we ve talked together i would often talk with mika s dad when he was alive about the danger that this world that was created
in 1945 would be taken apart by donald trump and interestingly the speech went in a different direction, that s not to excuse the undiplomatic language, i don t think that that helps, but the substance of the speech tells me that nine months in he is less determined to overturn the system than we might ve thought at the beginning. so david, i was struck listening to that, yes, it was different than previous president s speeches at the u.n. but it was precisely what donald trump campaigned on. i will defend america first, and always look at first for america s interest so unconventional, yes, but not unexpected i don t think from donald trump. some of the analysis this morning is that the president reshaped the u.s. role in the world with that speech. did he really? was it some big departure to what s happened in the country in the past? i didn t it was, willie. i think what s important when a
figure is trying to speak for the masses of americans who think the u.n. is a big waste of time and money, we wanted to be invested in the u.n. that s a community of sovereign nations, reshaping the balance on which this rests but it s not overturning it. i read it a little different from some of the other commentators. we ll see. if president trump is serious about bringing the united states back in as a participant in reform of the u.n., making it more effective, making it more place where problems get solved, that will be a significant difference for a conservative, a republican to do that, would be a big step. i can t help but think that nikki haley is favorite foreign policy official or ambassador to the u.n. is one of the reasons he s so sited about it. it s his friend nikki s project.
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building dangerous missiles and we can not abide by an agreement if it provides cover for the eventual construction of a nuclear program. the iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the united states has ever entered in to. frankly, that deal is an embarrassment to the united states and i don t think you ve heard the last of it, believe me. believe me of course lifted straight from lincoln s second inaugural. iran was the other country that president trump took to task in his general assembly speech. joining us now veteran columnist mike barnicle and host of mitchell reports, andrea mitchell. andrea, what did you think of the speech overall?
campaign rally, bomb bass tick, overly rhetorical, you know, aggressive and not multilateral. not the wrong speech for the venue. exactly. i totally agree with you. while many americans would agree with a lot of what he was saying, joe, this speech i feel like was for what our place is in the world stage and i don t think he articulated anything more than we ve seen before. he tried to define america first. i mean, this is about working together. he used the word sovereignty 21 times yet never name checked russia for grabbing part of ukraine. if he s not going to challenge russia at the same time when his secretary of state is that very day meeting again with the russians on ukraine, as a matter
of fact, and and yet he s goading somebody who incredible unstable in north korea. where s the plan? the speech makes me very, very nervous. the bulk of the speech as you spoke to in the earlier segment is pretty much boiler plate, it s what you d expect from an american president. the problem with the speech, according to many, many people i spoke with yesterday after the speech, is that every element that he raised as an issue is a global issue, it s not an american issue and we need america first is one thing. america alone is a very dangerous thing. terrorism, climate, cyberattacks. these are global issues and he never addressed them. he stood in front of a fairly useless body, every american knows that but didn t try to do anything collectively to gather that body together to confront these global issues. i m sure it was enormously
popular with donald trump s base but he s the president of the united states. i think that speech was enormously popular or somewhat popular with more than just donald trump s 33% or 35% or whatever it is now. i suspect that speech was popular with the majority of americans. you have a president who was going after north korea, going after iran, going after venezuela. i mean there was a moment we had a lot of conservatives that were cheering yesterday where he said venezuela is failing not because socialism s been implemented badly, it s because socialism s and nobody nobody clapped in the chamber. he just sat and waited it out. i m just saying there is donald trump s base, i do think it would be a mistake to think that this only played for 31%. a lot of americans probably agreed with that speech yesterday. we ll find out. i don t know. a lot of americans i don t
know whether they re going to agree with we re going to destroy you and then after we destroy you, havens wailla watch out and cuba i don t like you either. we can only do so much, joe. i think most americans know that. did we get the sense that he was talking about invading all these countries? you got the sense that he had warrior language underneath, that he wasn t afraid to go after any nation. coming up on morning joe, new york city is always on high alert especially when nearly all the world leaders are in town. we re going to talk to former homeland security secretary michael chur tauf about what s involved next on morning joe. a pilot like you shouldn t be flying buses. welcome to miami.
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doors with zip ties and fire hoses but they were unable to do so-so right now as these winds die down people are coming back out to assess some of the damage. we ve got another round if this is, in fact, the eye. the winds will continue to hammer us for six to eight hours. we re glad you re inside of that shelter. everybody s lucky to be in a concrete structure like that. we ll check back with you in just a second. joining us now former secretary of homeland security, michael chertoff. very good to have you. in fact, just looking at the hurricane coverage, fema s under homeland security, it s more often and they are stronger. yeah. how is the department do you think in interprets of preparing for these and how are they responding so far? i think the government s done quite well bearing in mind that it s always going to be an ugly situation and people are under a lot of stress, but i think this
shows the result of over ten years of working to reformulate what our doctrine is to prepare to train, to exercise and of course this has been an exceptional hurricane season. we haven t had one like this since 2008. so it really is going to test metal of the folks both at the federal and the local level. so and reformulating the doctrine in terms of preparing, but what about what about climate change and does that play into this or is that a separate entity of the government that should be addressing that? i m not an expert i know but we all have brains. i would say that we ve certainly seen intense periods of weather. whatever the cause s we have to start thinking about how do you become more resilient and one thing i would say, if we look at what the dutch have done, dutch have lived below sea level for centuries and they ve developed technologies and building requirements that make it easier
for them to resist a catastrophic result. we ve got to start thinking about long-term. how do we build an infrastructure and protects us and mitt gates the damage of what may be a period of rising sea levels and more storms. okay. let s move to president trump s speech before the u.n. did you think it was a productive speech? i think it s a speech where bearing in mind his personal style as a speaker which is a little different than what we re used to, i think it s a speech that you could almost read in to what you wanted to. there were elements that sounded like america first, it s all about america but there were also elements that showed engagement with the rest of the world and focusing on countries where people are actually being oppressed. so i think it was a balanced speech but it s not certainly a typical speech. to me the real question is what does he do, not what does he say? given your background, secretary, were you at all surprised that given the nature of the global threat of
terrorism, the global threat of climate, the global threat of cyber attacks that there wasn t more in the speech about the need to address it globally rather than just america first, america alone which seemed to be the direction of the speech? i always view these speeches not as a road map to what actually policy is going to be but an overarching theme setter and i think the theme here was we are nation states, we do have obligations to our own people, but as nation states we can work together in our mutual interest. so i don t view this as closing the door on globalization. it certainly was not an apology speech as some we ve heard in the past. it was not the most bell koes thing we ve heard either so to me the question is what does he do rather than what does he say? what s more bellicose than we re going to destroy north korea. the axis of evil was bellicose. i ve watched people interpret this in different ways over the
last 24 hours. i don t think he said if you don t reannounce your weapons we re going to destroy you. i think what he said was, if we have to defend ourselves, we will destroy you and i think that s a rather crude, perhaps, but accurate statement of what deterrence is and that was really in the cold war what we told the soviets. if you attack us we will fight back. so the axis of evil speech was not delivered to the u.n. and i m just curious because you re one of many who have said we ve got to watch what he does, not what he says. that doesn t seem okay. this is the president of the united states. what he says is supposed to be extremely important and it s supposed to represent what he s going to do. and what his intentions are and what his hopes and dreams are for this country and the world community and our place in the world. are we supposed to discount everything he says because he might do something differently? i agree with you. ideally you want a president who
can use the bully pulpit as a way to be honesty. to community messages to our allies and adversaries. you just have to face the fact this president s rhetoric is not what we expect and i do think in the end a lot of it will be discounted precisely because it is not necessarily connected to what happens. wow. to me the policy issues and the way he actually execute become the really important things. if i look at what he s done in dealing with our allies and actually what he does it s been a lot more mainstream than what some of the rhetoric is. wow. i m interested in your reaction there secretary to another element of president trump s foreign policy and that is refugee admissions and cutting that number in half as a response to what he views as the global threat of terrorism from certain countries. i was reminded after 9/11 that president george w. bush made a point going out and saying we re
going to keep the number where it is. why do you think that was important for george w. bush to do that and do you think it s a mistake for donald trump to do what he s doing? as i ve written, putting aside humanitarian issues which of course are important, i think from a national security standpoint it s important not to be cutting the number of refugees that we have as a cap because that sends a bad signal to our allies many of whom are hosting refugees at great burden. i want to be clear about a couple things. i absolutely agree when we have refugees who apply to come in, we need to vet them carefully and make sure they re not a risk. which we do. i have to say in fairness, we ve had a record number of asylum seekers coming into the u.s. i think we re on track to have over 200,000 this year and so that s outside the cap. so we are certainly in a position to be taking people who are fleeing from persecution when they arrive at our shores.
nevertheless, the refugee program i think is a flagship program for solidarity with countries like jordan and turkey and other countries in the region and it s important from a security standpoint that we show that solidarity. it s interesting to hear you say it s a question of national security to keep that number, because the argument is it s a question of national security to limit the numbers so some of those refugees don t sneak in that have ill will toward the united states. in terms of the risk coming in to do harm, the refugee program where people have to wait usually 18 months to get in is very low risk compared to simple travellers and so i mean, we ve obviously got to do whatever we need to to reasonable check but putting a cap on the refugee program doesn t really serve a purpose and is actually contrary to our interest. if you tied together several of the challenges the administration is facing, cybersecurity, terrorism,
hurricanes, this is a white house that has one individual essentially handling all of those things or overseeing that, tom bossert, is that effective? do they need to have more people focusing on these issues? is he enough? i know tom and i worked with him back in the days of the bush administration and he s very experienced and he s smart and i think he s really capable. we should be pleased he s in that position. i also think that the folks in the security staff and the white house that he s brought in are very capable in the area of cyber. actually i think the real issue is populating the departments and making sure you have staff in the departments. i thought secretary kelly was a good dhs secretary. he s now at the white house. the acting secretary s very good. they re starting to fill the positions out and the good news is actually homeland security as opposed to some other departments is actually relatively well populated at a senior level and with people who have real operational experience and i think you saw the result
of that in the hurricane response. i m encouraged by that. i d like to see the state department a little bit more filled out and i think the defense department has some vacancies. one thing you learn when you re dealing with a multitude of crisis you need to have all hands on deck. former homeland security michael chertoff, thank you so much for being on with us this morning and still ahead we ll talk to republican senator bill cassidy whose racing against a deadline to pass his obamacare repeal bill but does it fail the so-called jimmy kimmel test. that s next on morning joe.
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health care. graham/cassidy bill is great. ends ocare. senator paul has been a vocal opponent of the plan. president trump continued on twitter, i hope republicans centers will vote for graham cass did i and fulfill their promise to repeal and replace t and replace obamacare. money direct to states. the comments come as republicans race to beat a september 30th deadline so they only need 51 votes. meanwhile jimmy kimmel had this to say. a few months ago after my son had open heart surgery which is something i spoke about on the air, a politician, a senator called bill cassidy from louisiana, was on my show and he wasn t very honest. it seemed like he was being honest. he got a lot of credit and attention for coming off like a rare, reasonable voice in the republican party when it came to health care for coming up with something that he called, he named it this, the jimmy kimmel
test, which was in a nutshell no family should be denied medical care, emergency or otherwise, because they can t afford it. he agreed to that. he said he would only support a health care bill that made sure a child like mine would get the health coverage he needs no matter how much money his parents make. and this guy, bill cassidy, just lied right to my face. do you believe that every american regardless of income should be able to get regular checkups, maternity care, et cetera, all of those things that people who have health care get and need? yep. so yep is washington for nope, i guess. and by the way, before you post a nasty facebook message saying i m politicizing my son s health problems, i want you to know i am politicizing my son s health problems because i have to. wow. and with that, joining us now is republican senator bill cassidy of louisiana. sir, i guess i will ask you to respond. does yep mean no really?
and in your efforts to do this again, will it pass the jimmy kim mel test? absolutely. there will be more people covered under the graham/cassidy/heller/johnson amendment and we protect those with pre-existing conditions. there will be billions of dollars of coverage for, woulding families in states like maine, virginia, missouri, florida and elsewhere, states that have been bypassed by obamacare, but under those folks will have insurance and there s protection for those with pre-existing conditions. so any child born with a congenital heart disease would get everything he or she needs? absolutely. okay. but it s true, is it not, senator, that states who get the waivers, while they may offer coverage to people with pre-existing conditions are now free to offer them at such a price that it would become unaffordable to those families, which to a lot of people is not having coverage at all. if i can t afford it, i might as
well not have coverage. that is not true. under our bill, the coverage has to be adequate and affordable. what does that mean exactly? we run this through the chip program, we are running this through the chip program, which is wildly popular with both democrats and republicans. and there are safeguards both within the chip program that whatever coverage is offered is, if you will, adequate and affordable but we specifically say that it has to be adequate and affordable. by the way, let me also mention status quo. there s a fellow back in louisiana whose daughter has special needs, he has to buy coverage, doesn t get a subsidy. he s paying over $40,000 a year plus a $5,000 deductible for his family coverage. now that is not affordable and that is pricing somebody whose daughter has a pre-existing condition out of the market. under our plan they would be helped. senator, who decides what specifically adequate and affordable means. those are vague terms and can be different things to different
people. who decides what s affordable to a family because that s very different for family a versus family b. that would be the secretary of hhs as in the affordable care act, as in this bill. there s some discretion on things that are allowed. for example, we think that if you say adequate and affordable, a reasonable person would say it s got to be about the same price. now, it s possible that someone has a different definition of affordable, but typically those people who have different definitions are trying to protect obamacare, think it s the only way to be and, therefore, they attempt to discredit our plan. do you see that some see affordable as a suggestion to be manipulated by insurance companies as well. it has to be approved by the secretary of hhs. this is not left up to the insurance company. but let me say, no one likes change. no one likes change even from worse to better. on the other hand, there s a fundamental philosophical difference. democrats are more comfortable
with power being in washington, d.c., and individuals being directed how they live their life. republicans are more comfortable giving power back to the patient, power back to the state with the kind of solutions that americans come up with to solve our problems. we re not going to agree on some things because there s a philosophical difference in that regard. dr. cassidy, can you guarantee that your bill will not result in people, families in louisiana, massachusetts or anywhere else paying higher premiums for pre-existing conditions than they pay right now? our families will pay less under the graham/cassidy/hell r graham/cassidy/heller/johnson amendment in states like that once the governors implement those plans. but there are protection for those families. i go back to the fellow in louisiana paying $40,000 a year, his daughter with special needs, his premiums will be lower.
so your bill, dr. cassidy, as i understand it, cuts coverage for low income seniors, children and people with disabilities that s not true. well, explain why it s not true. so i m not sure if you re let me talk about two things. first, we focus the there s two pots of money. there s the traditional medicaid and the flexible block grant. the flexible block grant dollars go through the chip program and that has to be focused on those who begin at 50% of federal poverty level going up. states can spend it higher on the chip program, but the focus has to be on those from 50% to 138% of federal poverty level. so those are kind of focused upon. in the traditional medicaid pot, you may be referring to what is called the per capita cap. a proposal first made by bill clinton and then endorsed by people like the senator from
washington, patty murray, as a way to kind of give stability to the medicaid program but still deliver good care. it s what states do with managed care companies. we give you a certain amount of money per patient. now, the federal taxpayer says to the state, you get a certain amount of money per patient and the state says to the medicaid managed care company we give you that money. so we think it s fair and frankly consistent with bipartisan support in the past. quickly now we re back to senator cassidy. what do you say to people who indicate and articulate the idea and the thought that this proposal, as with other proposals is more about rejecting anything attached with president obama, obamacare, than it is about improving our health care system. you know, i bring to this not a thought about president obama but about my ethics as a physician who worked for 25 years in a public hospital for the uninsured trying to bring health care to those who are poor and working families or
even middle class families who didn t have insurance. this will bring power to that patient, power to that state for them to have control of their health care future. that s what motivates me. senator, both the governor of your state and jimmy kimmel don t like your legislation. are you able to win their support or you re going to proceed without their support? no one likes change even from worse to better. i ve spoken to my governor. we both care passionately about the people in my state. i feel more comfortable with power moving out of washington to our state and to the patient. again, there is a philosophical divide. democrats are more comfortable with the federal government putting an individual mandate penalty on us, coercing us to buy insurance. which boy the way, 58% of those penalties are paid by those earning $50,000 or less. republicans think we should help those families, not penalize them. it s just a philosophical divide. i think when they see the success of our program, they ll
be pleased. all right, senator bill cassidy, thank you very much. we have just moments left in the show. i m wanting to get final thoughts. you can talk round and round in circles. i ve gotten e-mails during this interview saying that the senate is saying is simply not true. it s available versus affordable versus what the governors do. it is a very why it was so hard for president obama is why this is going to probably be impossible for republicans in the climate in washington now. mark halperin. republicans are doing the same thing that the obama administration did. you cannot change the health care system without having consumers who are worse off than under the status quo. like barack obama, senator cassidy is claiming no one will be worse off. it s just not true. carol. i m looking forward to what jimmy kimmel has to say because it sounds like they both are having different interpretations of the same legislation. some 430,000 people in the state of louisiana alone have signed up the last year under medicaid expansion. their future remains in doubt.

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david: i know. nice little color coronation. abby: we didn t even plan it. i love learning about her learning about our guest toes, what they drink in the morning. what is your choice? you re a black coffee. david: i like black coffee with a little bit of brown sugar but i m going to make tea year. todd: we look like we are ready to get the baby announcement because they ve got their pink, the blue. david: covering all sides of this. abby: per usual friday salé usual friday salé is often the busiest day for the administration and yesterday was the same. a lot of news out of the white house. president trump announcing he will not certify the iran nuclear deal. the president stopping short of scrapping the deal altogether. kevin cortez live on what this means. good morning. early where you are. reporter: a little bit early. enjoy your coffee and tea. i ll stick to bergen.
thanks for asking. it s never too early, right? very interesting day in the nations capital. the president as he pointed out decided not to certify that tehran is living up to its agreement by way of the every nuclear deal. what is really interesting analyses threatening to terminate altogether if iran does not get it together. a major policy shift at the white house in washington and the president unveiling and it s very easy to spot a more confrontational approach the rogue regime. in the event we are not able to reach a solution with congress and our allies, the agreement will be terminated. it is under continuous review and their participation can be canceled as president at any time. reporter: a lot of people asking
abby: democrats and even the media are upset at media are absent what does this mean for former barack obama legacy? look at what the focus has been for president trump in office when he campaigned on immigration. i mean, you name it. health care. continuing to roll back the best way he can in his office the legacy of barack obama. a lot of people wondering what will his legacy be? andersen cooper was on last night and spoke directly to that. never have we seen negating, even obliterating the predecessor s accomplishments. you only have to look of a president obama is for. in all fairness none of this should be a surprise. he campaigned on much of it and if nothing else is keeping promises now. what may be surprising or at least widely debated that is how much of this is personal. todd: right, david? david: the american people, we
get represented. we made a decision as a nation to elect president trump to roll back the bad policies of obama. obama, by the way, rollback policies he didn t believe and with bush without a joint agreement. look at what he did. but obama didn t go through the constitution in congress. he was rejected by the supreme court a dozen times plus some different things. one of the biggest things about trump, he s telling congress commit to your job. that s the constitution and that is not left or right. abby: how is that personal? andersen cooper said was different about this disease that s right a little lost. with personal? david: it s not. they need to drive the narrative. andersen is to drive the narrative because it s watching the failures of obama play out. obama s legacy is already fallen apart by the numbers. he s been rejected by the courts. look at all the issues of all
his signature achievements. those are bad signatures. this is called democracy. you devote democracy. your devoted cayenne or lady and they change what they don t like in response of the american people about spore. they vote the individual in. of course the mainstream media will get fired because they don t like the guy. we said it countless times they don t like president trump and that s just seen in the soundbites. i was at the conference in washington d.c. we ll talk more about that throughout the course of the morning. you speak with the individuals they are in the heart of america want certain things. the president is delivering in their eyes on those issues. that is the way democracy works. yet to realize democrats don t like the idea that trump world through the blue wall. they are the same legislative seats. they re losing middle american counts. i hate that phrase. they count. abby: they should focus on what
they stand for versus everything they re against. we are following closely this morning with a fox news alert. the taliban and arriving home in canada overnight after being held captive for five years. joshua boyle telling reporters that his captors killed a fourth child born in captivity, and infant daughter. he also says they sexually assaulted his wife. the trump administration working at the pakistani military now to carry out their release. and now to another fox news alert. when does threatening to the deadliest acre wildfire in california s history. the death toll rising to at least 34 people is to get a firsthand look at the daring rescues underway. clinic at her feet. sir, you ve got to go. go, go, go. this is a mandatory evacuation order. leave your home. i begin video rescuing a
disabled woman, lighting up the neighborhood with smoke so thick you can barely see. unbelievable. the wildfire with 90,000 people out of their home. also overnight, president trump to end payments to health insurers under obamacare. money pouring into insurance companies profit under the guise of obama carries over. they ve made a fortune. dems must fortune. dan s muscat smarting deal. 18 states and the district of columbia during the trump administration friday s announced vampiric states as the court to force the administration to make the next payment to ensure scheduled for wednesday. taking aim and nfl players kneeling during the national anthem during the weekly address to the nation. take a listen. you want to see those players be proud of their country. when we identified, we pay tribute to the men and women who ve given everything. let us renew our commitment to love our country, protect her citizens and ensure that this
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years. first the cost-saving reductions in the subsidies to insurance companies. what did he actually do there? the president is abiding by the law and upholding this important document. the united takes constitution. these subsidies were not authorized and appropriated by congress. the money to pay for them is not in this thought. obama spends that money in defiance of congress which refuse to appropriate the money. congress went to court and won a case against the obama administration because it was illegal to make those payments and the president is saying i cannot make payments that congress doesn t authorize because i took an oath to uphold the united states constitution and the power of the purse belongs to congress, not to me. jonathan turley basically articulate that point. he worked on this case and made this really interesting point. what is president trump decides i m going to fight the border
wall unilaterally. exactly. exactly the same thing. i m going to grab some people s money to prop up my failing health law. it is illegal. it is absolutely illegal. the irony is we have the democrats and insurance companies on one side of the issue. the president, the the constitution and the people elected representative on the other side. which side are you going to pick? david: what does this mean to the person on main street, the small business? the small business is affected by this. the small businesses and individuals are very effect it in a positive way by the executive order that the president made on thursday. also called sabotage by democrats. on thursday, the president announced he is rolling back obamacare regulations, that prevented people from buying affordable health plans.
so now, people who don t get coverage on their job are stuck between this rock and a hard place. they have to pay huge obamacare premiums will go uninsured. you say and that s not fair. we will let you buy low cost health plans, plans that cost less than half of what obamacare bronze plan costs. transfer sum this up for the american people quickly. are they better off this morning than they were last saturday? absolutely. more money in their pockets and cheaper better plans available. transfer the left is added again looking for ways to oust president trump from office. this time trying to label him mentally unstable. david: you can imagine that. plus this lawmaker wanted the president assassinated. now she s comparing him with hitler. we will have that next.
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in california using a dominant defensive performance where they used dominant defensive performance to defeat washington state 37-3. their first win in 14 years against the top 10 teams. abby, tia. abby: unbelievable. thank you so much, david. now turning to the 25th of them as a potential option to get president trump out of office. look at these headlines. one reads when did we reach 30 fifth amendment territory. another impeachment will save us from trump s the 25th amendment might. the president can be removed a majority of the cabinet determines that he is unfit about which should really be talking about this. here s a debate, amy holmes, political analyst for rasmussen report was a clinton campaign adviser and of course a fox news contributor. good morning, ladies. thank you for being with us so early. i said we re not talking about the 25th. i ve heard mentions from democrats about the 25th
amendment for the day the president got into office. it s one thing to hate him and his policies. it s another to say he s mentally or physically unfit to be president. it s another to be delusional. there is no way trump cabinet will be invoking the 25th amendment to remove him. i also think it is dangerous thinking. before the election we got a lot of lectures on the media and democrats that the results of november needed to be respected by donald trump because they thought he would lose they feared he would keep on fighting. it seems those democrats have never accepted the donald trump one-day election in november. he did win the popular vote but he did win the electoral college at 63 million americans voted for donald jay trump to be in the white house. abby: you look at how this city how this would even have been peered the 25th amendment you have to get the cabinet to stand up and say the president is unfit to serve. do democrats really see this
happening? i think we have to take into account why these stories are being discussed right now. this is not being interpreted by democrats. this is in response to one of trump s early supporters, senator corker say the president is unstable or reports coming out that republicans are saying that the president is unstable and unraveling and when you ve got senator corker saying he s leading us into world war iii, these are questions that need to be asked. certainly we are not at any stage where the 25th amendment could actually be invoked. i am surprised that we also learned the president himself didn t even know at the 25th amendment was when his senior adviser, steve bannon, told him this is something you should be concerned with. if the president is charged with defending the constitution, you
would want him to understand all of what the constitution entails. this is coming directly from republicans who are now saying, you know, actually hurt clinton said during the election. had no place did he talk about the 25th amendment. he mentioned the word dangerous and this is a dangerous confrontation by having it in this country. it s also dangerous for democrats to focus so much on this? certainly is dangerous for their party that they seem to be often in lala land with dreams of the 25th amendment. they are just absurd and not going to happen. in the sense of it being dangerous, we have a democracy, election, logical disagreement. most of the times they are between parties but we should be talking about trying to remove the president simply because you disagree with choices he s making as controversial as they may be. he was a lack did. the one on his campaign promises
goodies now fulfilling campaign promises. democrats only have themselves to blame but they failed to defeat him. is also really challenging specific aspects of the constitution and that is concerning. would use the word concerning and the word dangerous. your thoughts in the missouri state senator recently and she s been in trouble for things posted on facebook in the past but on twitter she recently compared trying to hitler. she says i have a first amendment right to share my opinion and if the name is offensive to people they should look at the amendment again. original post as i hope is assassinated. how would anyone defend that? i think that post was indefensible. i think we have to be intellectually honest with the audience because this is not the first time that a president has come under attack like that. we saw for eight years president obama come under similar attacks
and actually someone like ted nugent who was welcomed into the white house for photos and dinner with the president. this isn t something conservatives can use as a rallying cry because we ve had a long history of conservatives doing the same thing. who should know the language whether on the left or right. we re talking about elected official. ted nugent isn t the one elected into office. correct. let s focus on the elected official who was almost unanimously by her state senate quarter making those remarks and now she s comparing donald trump to hitler. this is the one who not only disrespected the president which is to write but also 6 million jewish were murdered by adolf hitler. hundreds of thousands of allied troops who died in defense of the west and the united states of america. for her to be comparing donald trump who merely for enacting
policies to a historic building with real blood on his hands i think is totally out of bounds. does she have the right to say it? yes. as the first amendment require us to like it? no. we see a lot of actions by this president that put them in the leg don t go down that road. i m not focusing on the hitler aspect. insanely never president going after the free prize in the way dictators have in other countries. abby: ladies, we have to leave it right there. always good. any good to have you. thank you, ladies. president trump s decision on the reindeer mean? general jack keane is here to discuss that next. george clooney accused of one of his costars and she woke up about harassment on sat? clooney s response is coming out. sorry, kids. no hollowing costumes in school
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with nuclear weapons. in the event we are not able to reach a solution working with congress and our allies, then the agreement will be terminated . the president making a huge announcement yesterday. general jack keane to retired four-star general, former vice chief of staff of the u.s. army, chairman of the institute for the study of war and a fox news military analyst. good to see you, sir. as always. i want to break this down into parts. one, let s focus on how this is going to impact our allies both in the region and outside of the region and to, not just nukes involved. there is also general ballistic missiles there right now are a clear and present threat to so many allies in the region. yes, certainly. this is very much about our allies because for the last eight years the interest of the united states in the middle east and also allies have been
trampled on by the obama administration. just remember that this deal, the nuclear agreement was the seminal foreign policy and national security object to is that the obama administration for eight years. as a result of that, he gave us a sense, the civil war and syria that we refuse to aid the theory and opposition forces and at least we may not have been able to run a sod out of power, but we could have done so much more to stop the killing that has taken place. so our allies absolutely applaud this. when president trump went to riyadh a few months ago and made the seminal speech therapy for 55 liters of the middle east and northern africa, he told them, the first thing he said, iran is the strategic enemy in the region and i will stand with you against this number one threat to the region. so while we are focusing so much
of the nuclear deal and what s wrong with it and how to create some threats to fix it, and the real major thing i get out of this is the strategic object is that we move from appeasement to iran for the last eight years, the confrontation and willingness to stand up with our allies against them. general, we hear from the media that essentially this would be the ending of world war iii, but does the hyperbole not recognize the hegemonic aspirations of iran in the region? you know, you re absolutely right. what the iranians have done, the number one objective the president cited yesterday was to neutralize the afghan behavior in the region. that was the first thing he said as part of the strategic review. they ve got 160,000 rockets and missiles in lebanon with hezbollah. they are there for one reason and one reason only. israel. iranians run a more inferior. they brought the russians in
when the regime was in trouble. they solidified the western part of syria. but to solidify the eastern part. one criticism of the trump administration i don t think we have no coherent plan after we defeat isis. they have more political influence in iraq than we have despite all of their military successes there. they want to build a land bridge from iran through iraq, through syria, through lebanon and a naval port and the mediterranean. they trampled all over gannon. they depose the government that we are supporting. yes, this is a very dangerous regime to be sure. if we let them have nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles and we think north korea is a problem, that would make iran not just a regional merit, but a global mass. abby: general, you know how to command the stage. so does general john kelly.
i know you saw this press conference. the highlights for me taking on the press. when he speaks it s like the media, they don t quite know how to respond. they taken very seriously. what was your response to him saying to the media come the media company to just get a few more services for your story. i think one of the most frustrating things this administration has to deal with, all administrations do with criticisms criticisms of the press. it s part of their everyday staple. the amount of false stories that are out there, even i know myself from reading news media every day that i know for a fact based on by contact with the administration that this is a bunch of silly. and we just know it s not true. i share general kelly s frustration, coming to work every day working so hard to get something right for the american people. these people really putting a shoulder into this thing to do
what s right. obviously to include the president himself. he had his own personal style in its controversial that people always criticize it. but he is the president of the united states. his hearts in the right place. he s got great leaders trained to do the right thing. when people write false stories which are allies, i ve been in the far east command of far east command of the least in europe for weeks. since president trump a select team. i ll tell you what, they read this media and they have some concerns, but they also are absolutely reassured we have a president who s putting america back on the world stage, promoting global leadership, stability, security and prosperity once again. we have not had that for some time. abby: those false headlines can be quite dangerous. good to have your perspective. i do want to bring you something quickly. george clooney denied former er costar vanessa marquez who starred as nurse wendy goldman
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backing down after being fired from his company. tmc reported the rule based in houston are greedy and never violated his contract. the contract allowed him to keep his job even a sexual harassment suit came into play. just unbelievable. abby: fox news anchor gregg jarrett, no one better to help break all of this down. what standing does weinstein have at this point? he is going to sue his own company. where does that go? is your chance. not only a sexual predator who terrorize women but also a fool if he thinks he can contest being fired. his contract was an illegal contract because it enabled him, in writing to harass women, pay a fine essentially to himself, continue the job and continue to terrorize and harassed and sexually abused women. that is under lock and illegal contract. it is null and void, which makes
and an employee who can be fired for a reason or no reason at all in the money of reasons. abby: through and are claiming that he them. the details coming out or getting worse and worse. battlement worse and worse, evidence of the 2015 undercover reporting by n.y.p.d. what about statute of limitations? talking about the contract, but the charges that can be brought. no statute of limitations anywhere, which i don t want to get too drastic but it is penetration. first come a sexual assault in most jurisdictions, so use in legal jeopardy criminally. probably l.a. police are investigating and that tape in new york is incriminating, damning evidence. he chose to drop the case and interestingly, the lawyers for
weinstein lavished generously a lot of money after he dropped the case against weinstein. abby: chretien at the unbiased? absolutely. should end up behind bars if the accusers are correct. 32 women have come forward. sexual harassment, three of them as you point out. this is a guy who deserves to be behind bars. if he thinks he can retain his position at weinstein company, he cannot. abby: just horrible. i wrote a column that said the weinstein co. could shut its doors and do three things. apologize sincerely, set up a fund to the benefit is analysts will continue to grow in finally come finally, contribute tens of millions of dollars to organizations that are dedicated to helping abused women. and then, it should close down operations. abby: good to have you with us this morning. kory lewandowski coming dan
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2012. david: unbelievable. now his mission to help other veterans. he is running dirty one marathons and 31 days in 31 cities to raise money for wounded veteran charities. it s an unbelievable honor to have them here. marine corps veteran rod jones joins us now before his recent central park this morning. cannot thank you enough for being here. before we get into the specifics, please tell us your story. sure, i was a combat engineer in the marine corps. my job was to find ied is buried in the ground and so in july of 2010 i was in afghanistan, saying an district of helmand province and we were pushing into taliban territory, taking it over and we came out to a danger area where there was a likelihood of an ied being there. i went out to clear a route through the area. the ied found me before i found it. abby: at what point did you wake
up after losing both of your legs and say i can t go on with my life, you can even walk anymore, saying i m going to do something, actually in this case ran 31 marathons and 31 days. how did you get to that point? i have an uncanny knack i suppose her of being able accept my situation. i was able to accept it pretty quickly once i kind of came out of the haze from surgery and pain medications. i was able to bounce back pretty quickly and, you know, i just figured this is a situation now, so my mission is still the same. make a difference in the world. leave the world better than i found it. so how am i going to do that now? todd: as if this whole thing was that remarkable enough, you ran a race, a marathon in london on thursday and traveled to philadelphia yesterday now you run today. the travel alone would exhaust
me, not to mention you are running 2622 miles in each location. this is unbelievable. tell us what you are doing today. abby: look at that. this is a map of all the races you are doing. we are going to drive about 9500 miles total. luckily for me we have an rv, so i have my wife there that is handling just about everything. i have a driver, my mom that gives me massages because she s a massage therapist. i m resting pretty well for most of the travel. todd: how can we help? obviously an amazing cause. besser to help us to go to my website, rod jones charity.com. donate to charities and supporting there. by the really nice t-shirt i m wearing and most importantly you can actually rsvp to run with me. i m encouraging everybody to come around a mile or whole thing whatever you want. david: you are an inspiration. thank you for service in all you do.
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abby: todd, good to have you with us. a lot of this to get to israelis have on saturday morning. david: president trump announcing he will not certify the iran nuclear deal. transfer the president shopping sort of scrapping the deal altogether. abby: kevin corke live in washington with what all this means. always good to see you. great to be with you guys did the president that i do support congressional lawmakers in their effort to influence them foster better deliverables from the iranians, but he made it clear in his remarks with the white house that if we can t get this thing right, he will terminate the iran nuclear deal. the effort is simple. to get the regime to live up to the spirit and the letter of the accord. while the united states adheres to our commitment under the deal, the iranian regime continues to feel conflict, terror and turmoil throughout the middle east and beyond.
importantly, iran is not living up to this. of the deal. todd: you guys talked about this in the last half-hour. a dramatic shift in a far more confrontational way to look at the iranian regime. as for congressional lawmakers, they are trying to come up with a fix for the jcpoa, corker, cotton and rubio. sanctions if iran goes under the one-year branko. they remained in force indefinitely. goodbye to the so-called sunset provisions that apply to sanctions bolstering the iaea verification powers and limit iran s advanced centrifuge program. now you re asking yourself, what does it mean now? the ball is in congress court. 60 days to formulate a strategy until the strategy that to the white house. again, if they can be successful in that affair, they could hold the u.s. out altogether.
we ll be listening very carefully. abby: let s hope congress can do their job. good to see you. thank you. transfer great way of breaking that down for us, the nuts us, not symbols. a little analysis from corey lewandowski, former trump campaign manager and senior advisor for america first. good to see you as always on saturday morning. he heard the president and kevin. what do you think? good morning. great to be with you today. clearly the administration following through on the campaign promises they made paper president trump talked about on the campaign trail and as the president was the iranian deal has been a terrible deal for the american people and what he s done is he s empowered as ambassador to the united nations company keeley, to make sure that iran that the iranian deal is followed through on and she went to vienna, met with executives at the iaea and then she went and gave a speech in washington d.c. a few months
back to lay the groundwork for the fact she didn t believe this was actually being followed through on. the president said yesterday will mixture congress has the power to go back and look at this, understand that, come up with the resolution. if they don t come if you act under his authority of the president of the united states to pull out of the deal. this is that the president promised on the campaign trail undoing the obama era policies. andersen cooper mentioned that last thing on the show. here s what he said. never had we seen the president so bent on obliterating his predecessors accomplishments. if you want to notice against you only have to look at what president obama was for. in all fairness, none of this should be a surprise. he campaigned on much of it and is keeping his promises now. what may be surprising or at least widely debated is how much of this is personal. abby: i am not sure that it s personal.
it does make you wonder, though, the president is successful with the iran deal, obamacare, turning these things around, while the former president barack obama s legacy be? you will be one of the failure. we ve seen this administration has tackled a fist and isolate and done more in the first 10 months or so in the administration of ridding the world of this terrorist organization in the obama administration in eight years. the stock rocketed 43, 44 new highs. a trillion dollars in the stock market in the first 10 months of the administration. where the growth rate of 3% and 4% moving forward. under the old administration 1%. we need to look at the metrics. an unbiased assessment of what the president has been able to achieve compared to the previous eight years. he is far and away above anything the obama administration has been able to do. now we re looking at health care because congress refused to act
because of their inability to get things done, took done, took it in his old hands and by health care across state line. go back and look at the campaign. these are things the president campaigned on an even andersen cooper, not a friend of the administration has to admit he s following through on his campaign promises which is that the american people elected him to do. the mac it s funny. president keep their promises. hillary clinton who didn t get to be president is on a book to a book tour that never ends it seems. she now calls trump and assault her. is that out of bounds? hillary is a very angry person obviously. she ran the worst campaigned in the history of presidential campaigns that she couldn t connect with female, african-americans and hispanics. she forgot what the state of wisconsin was finishing up every battleground state in the country and blames everyone else for her lost futures on the book
tour to say it s everybody else but irrelevant. it wasn t her fault. where is she on the weinstein thing? abby: a lot of people haven t seen the clip. i want to get your thoughts. let s let people know what you re talking about here. this kind of behavior cannot be tolerated anywhere whether an entertainment politics, after all we have someone admitting to being a sexual assault in the oval office. there has to be recognition that we must stand against this kind of action that is so sexist and misogynistic. and this depends upon women coming forward and having the courage to come forward. in your book on the three women brought onto stage by trump attacking her husband new kind of dismiss them. without the right thing to do? yes, that at all been. that was the subject of a huge investigation as you might
recall in the late 90s and never conclusions drawn and that was clearly in the past. david: so gloria, is this the 90s flashback? missing something about sexual assault her admitted in the white house. there was a sexual assault in the white house called bill clinton. he had to pay $750,000 fine for abuses he perpetrated while president of the united states. he lost his law license. he lied under oath that he was impeached. she should be talking about in the white house. when she talks about the entertainment industry, this is amazing. harvey weinstein and friends of hers for a long, long time. she s been stunningly silent. we saw that mario cuomo, mayor from new york and decided to give it all back. it s amazing the hypocrisy of hollywood in the liberal elites who they don t want to talk about harvey weinstein anymore because he s one of their own.
the netiquette of the new york times did want to break this story. it s amazing how the liberal left has their own agenda and they refuse to acknowledge that they have been part of the problem in hollywood for the last 30 years. it hasn t been one person or two people. we are at 30 people now have accused harvey weinstein of serious felonies have no recourse and no cry from the liberal left. this is what the hypocrisy is all about. three women accusing winds can of raid. it s so dangerous to point out hypocrisy is a great place to be. thank you. abby: we do want to begin with the fox news alert. the american woman arriving home in canada overnight after being held captive for five years. joshua boyle told reporters his captors killed a fourth child born in captivity, and infant daughter. yes is that they sexually assaulted his wife caitlin coleman predator and administration working working with the pakistani military to
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never violated his contract which allowed him to keep his job even if sexual harassment suits came into play. as his next move in his rogue nuclear program, kim jong un building his own version of mar-a-lago while his people starve to death. building a knock of spanish resort in the seaside town, a vacation spot that appears to be kim s attempted to north korea take on his getaway. only his report just happens to be alongside his rocket test site. two differences bear. abby: just a few. the story has been story has been a few outrage story has been a few outrage. an illegal immigrant killing a data to kids in a horrific car crash. the illegal immigrant serving two years in jail. the mom seeking justice peter congressman joins us live with what he s doing to help next. try to do absolutely pitch in in a final paragraph of the infamous tarmac waiting between
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spoke to her. here s what she told me. spinnaker membered their beautiful faces. i see them from the moment i wake up to the moment i go to bed. i remember their hugs and i miss those. i miss those hugs everyday and i miss hearing mommy coming down the love you. i miss everything about them on a daily basis. abby: she would never have been back. courtney hakki as congressman joins us to sit tight future tragedies like this one and make sure justice is served. good to have you on this morning. good to have you with you. abby: have been thinking about her all week in which he is lost. before we get to helping others i know it s a passion from yours. is there anything about the illegal immigration now charged to two years for killing most of her family s or anything that
can be done because people are frustrated. abby, my worst days as a prosecutor before coming to congress was having to sit with kind of and hear the stories are not prospective peer one of my worst days as a member of congress was story and knowing that it could have been prevented. we really do need to focus on enforcing the immigration laws that are on the book. i worked closely with the hacking family and law enforcement officials to make sure he got the maximum punishment under the law. we need to do a better job of not just enforcing the laws, then making sure illegal aliens have a propensity to commit crimes don t get banned the first place. now this man will go to prison for two years and then he is living free. courtney s life will never be the same. you see the photo of her adorable for a time, for real
daughter, 22 -month-old son gone forever. you ve got to know courtney personally and she s fighting hard, passionately to make these changes. what have you learned from her and her story? people talk about closure. in so often from the other side we hear compassion and certain programs amending certain programs could break apart the events of illegal. there is no child will have a worse com and kelly hakeem her grace and hacking or the family. and so, i can t tell you how much i appreciate the fact even after this tragedy, courtney is willing to devote her time towards making sure they re
american citizens don t go through what she has. the good news is we finally have someone living at 1600 penn irving avenue who shares that frustration and concern and is willing to work with congress to prevent these types of tragedies abby: all ask you again is there anyway to change the mandatory sentencing
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investigators interviewed another current former white house officials. david, over to you. thank you. this week president trump talking through everything from the iran deal, fake news media. what is the american people think the malay carter, poster of atlantean partners at the president to the dial. good to see you. first, let s go to donald trump on: kaepernick. i watched: kaepernick and thought it was terrible. and then it got bigger and bigger as the mushrooming in the nfl should have suspended him for one game and he would ve never done it again. they could have suspended him if he did a third time for the season and you would never of had a problem. but i will tell you, you cannot disrespect our country, our flag, and them. you cannot do that. out of the dial is turned off
for the president? republicans love this stuff. democrats gave it a d., which i thought was most interesting is democrat said this is one of the fake issues to distract us from other things going on. republicans say it s important to get her patriotism back. of course that s the big news on friday. those who for the president on the iran deal. i think it was one of the most incompetently drawn bills have ever seen. $150 billion given. we ve got nothing. they ve got a past nuclear weapons very quickly. think of this one. $1.7 billion in cash. this is cash out of your pocket. you know how many are was that must be? they re missing a promotion where they have that s a lot. would be authorized to do it
enjoy the people who deliver it? you may never see them again. this is the worst deal. we ve got nothing. trained to got to admit it s got some great laughs in there. the democrat basically what the democrats said, you can see republicans gave a come independent speed. the democrat said basically what up over obama would be against what the ax to grind. republicans said one of them said this very well. at that date didn t negotiate with terrorists. his right to force a vote. divided on this issue as well. train to classified, but we ll get into that another time. americans care about taxes. we are getting close to the end of the year. they are looking at april, so what about the tax code? he says will make it easier. the second plaques of our framework is to make the tax
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we will see what happens with iran. we are very unhappy with iran. they have not treated us with the kind of respect. they should ve thanked barack obama for making that deal. they were economically gone. 100 to $150 billion into their economy. he gave them 1.7 billion in cash and they should be thanking president obama. davida that. the present rate they are yesterday. dan bongino, former secret service agent, who said the podcast renegade republican and author protecting the president. as always, good to see you on a saturday morning. the area and it was a joke from the start so the question is why are democrats so vociferously defending them?
listen, first off there is no iran deal. there is an obama deal, but someone should tell the iranians that there is an actual iran deal. now if the spirit of the deal as i ve heard recently, and the spirit of the so-called iran deal which was really the obama deal was to stop or slow down the development of nuclear technology for the iranian, then why are the iranians thirst eking dual use technology in developing ballistic missile delivery systems to potentially deliver a nuclear weapon. here is one where pro-tip about the obama deal. there s no iran deal. it s a joke. you probably shouldn t deliver pallets of cash to a regime whose motto is like death to america. probably not a good idea. interesting topics absolutely. as the president said yesterday, the basically restored their
economy. cash is king. we talked to people all over the country. what are you hearing from the people out there? do they get this? they absolutely get it. as you ve probably seen yourself, twitter is a great big public forum where you get a lot of good voices on both sides. some can get a little hostile but to get public opinion at least. the only people defending that are doing it not to defend the deal. they are doing it to defend obama because they want to maintain this veneer of foreign-policy credibility on the obama site to make people believe the democrats have something to stand on and they don t. it s always a crèche for them in the past. train to the deal is kind of a hollywood reality. what about a real hollywood reality? jimmy kimmel good morning america talking about the nation. here it is. let s listen in.
first of all to harvey white demand a false equivalence is said that the knowledge equivalent to what happened in las vegas. harvey weinstein is not a person, not a friend of mine, i m not in the movie business. i will add that story came out like moments before we went to tape on thursday we didn t have a show on friday. you address that on the following monday. what they are doing now is trying to drag up any kind of especially these gun nuts trying to take any comedy bit i get out of context and use it as some kind of proof saying that i m calling myself a moral conscience of america which i most certainly never did. abby: can you pick and choose? not the moral conscience of america appeared which you often hear liberals in hollywood jumping on things like gun control in health care,, how is this different? why should we not be thinking about something so worth it?
i ve really been very deferential to the sky because of what is going through because of his child. i ve got to tell you i m losing patience with him. i don t think he cares and he probably should but he says things are ridiculous on their face you should be embarrassed at first he says they take my comedy bits out of context. if you saw that day, this is a family show. i literally can t even discuss what he s doing with women on the show because it backwards. there s no way to take that out of context. secondly, it is kind of fascinating jimmy wraps himself in morality when discussing guns and health care. we are saving the kids come the saving grandma from evil republicans. when he said obvious black-and-white moral issue cut and dry, he runs from it because harvey is a democrat. no other reasons avoiding the topic. he should stand on principle and pay this guy deserves that. it s got a coming next week.
i ve got a whole bunch of bits prepared but i ll never do it. abby: a lot of hypocrites on this one who avoided so long and it s important to point that out. always good to see you. has your family and gross? they were great. things are having them up for the cooking with friends. they are still talking about it. abby: i love it. good to see you. other headlines we are following. police identifying killed in the line of duty. 29-year-old marcus mcneill shot several times. but really what is the video where he was shot and killed during a struggle rather than at a distance. 30-year-old derrick burgess will face first-degree murder charges and possibly the death penalty. records describe him as a career criminal. the three-year veteran of the forest leaves behind a wife and two gun kid. and the fbi finds 30 new pages of documents concerning the controversial tarmac meeting between bill clinton and the
meadowlands. judicial watch same offense only documents as a watchdog group caught the agency hiding them in another lawsuit. in june 2016, a private plan phoenix preload member that while the fbi was investigating hillary clinton s use of a private e-mail server. they expect to see the documents by the end of november. stay tuned for that one. the houston astros beating the new york yankees to the one with the first game of the best-of-seven series. ken dialed getting the final bit to recite a. 10 strikeout performance. transfer what are you going to do? we are played with the houses money at this point, yankees fans. i m not into this at all.
i was in d.c. yesterday. it was ridiculous. unbelievable. serious stuff to get your obviously our lives in california with those wildfires are they going to see any relief anytime soon? a better day yesterday. at least control about the conditions get worse than a flood all across the state and throughout the afternoon we watch winds pick up and will try things out toward southern california. southern california now another bad day for. winds will continue sometimes 50 to 55 miles an hour. unfortunately a really rough weekend. next chance of rain towards the end of the dry season. we will begin the rainy season. this takes us until thursday and maybe some good moisture moving in. along with go. one other story right here, some severe weather today. watch out from around chicago
over towards the northern part of missouri. you ve been a busy man these past few weeks. reporter: i tried. abby: thinking of everyone in california. i don t know if you re going to make it come in david. strange and tragic what is going on. president trump becoming the first president ever to address the values voter summit. behind the scenes with kellyanne conway, dr. ali decaying and many more. we will have that next. trent is still to come, jason jason, rob o neill. this is a great line. who are we missing? and now, i help people find discounts, like paperless, multi-car, and safe driver, that help them save on their car insurance.
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david: some quick headlines. despite chicago s statistic that s been named one of the safest cities in the world. the economist unit a london-based research firm rank in the city tonight tina fey says. the only other two u.s. cities on the list does seem the cisco nla pier chicago police reported 530 murders so far this year. they bring the survey says they think it s okay to shut down campus. this is a growing number of protests against conservative commentators continue. the survey by the republican pollster john mclaughlin had no partisan gap when it came to condoning violence to silence speakers. unbelievable. transport switching gears 45 minutes after the hour. interesting day yesterday. the values voter summit spoke with so many interesting people.
all the attendees will get a chance to speak with all different types of folks about how they feel the president is doing with regard to a number of issues. i specifically matter to that group of individuals at that conference. things like abortion, family values and things of that nature. here is what they have to say. this morning i m honored and thrilled to return as the first sitting president with this incredible gathering of friends. so many friends. what did you think? fantastic like he always is. very relaxed, very much at home, but also recognizes how important a sort of reporters. so inspirational. just amazing. the values are something is focused on. he had a home run here. you connect with the people. i do think the president is doing with regard to conservative issues? is doing really well. any 1% of evangelicals voted for
donald trump which is the highest ever. to an amazing job with conservative issues. everyone here brought together by the shame shares and timeless values. many times voters like this are pigeonholed into one or two issues that we know they are false doctrines conservative social economic foreign defense issues. we protect religious liberty. how is the president doing with regard to what you call the attacks on christian liberty? is doing an outstanding job. we cherish the dignity of the beverage human life. we believe he s doing wonderful things. he s speaking up for values, defending the unborn. democrats think they can run their lives, overrule values. i was the president doing with regard to small government issues? a fantastic job. producing president trump is doing? in spite of all the attacks of viciousness and all the rest
of that, he is progressive for it. the progress he s making i want to encourage him to continue to bring us and we are saying merry christmas again. why something as merry christmas important? that is symbolic of the inspiration for the heart and soul of this nation. i love how donald trump is doing now. our administrations would be cherished, protected and defended. like you have never seen before. the encouragement people here at the values voter summit takeaways that we have a president who understands these are important issues he s working on. do is create a nice [inaudible]
above all else, we know this in america. we don t worship government. we worship god. rework, todd. you talk about the values voter summit. a lot of times they worry about the values. they lose sight of faith in talking about what president trump is doubled down on many things he campaigned on. there is an important point here being ignored by a lot of the media. whether you are a christian conservative, evangelical, you like the fact that you ve got a president keeping his word, his nomination and appointment. then look at the const to shame. they care about the constitution. they believe in individual rights and recognize differences and they got to the biggest
selling point. i don t there is anyone who believes the social conservatives. constitutional conservative gives them the right to believe in their values. abby: great point. todd: next guest says reno suffered an absolutely heartbreaking tragedy, boosting herb rather, sister-in-law and her four grandchildren and a fire that united their christmas tree while they slept. could ve been prevented with a sprinkler. she is here live with her life-saving advice for every family next. you don t want to miss it.
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as we continue to track wildfires there this week also marks the national fire safety prevention week. on average, seven people died in the u.s. house fires each day. for next guest knows the heartbreak of us all to well. january 2015 she lost her brother, sister-in-law and four grandchildren to an electoral fire that another christmas tree. the only thing that could ve saved their lives would ve been a fire sprinkler system. joining us now with the national fire cheese. welcome to the both of you. i just want to say i can imagine the loss of the tragedy of losing six family members and a fire like that. in such a short time to make people aware. is very important to me people realized. my family did not
[inaudible] reporter: fighters dispersing in california california, nothing could have stopped that. that s a different thing. fire sprinklers can make a difference. tell us about as. as they light the fires, what s changed in california s fuels in the forests have changed, so have the field of our homes. what you hear it now, the smoke alarm currently morning. the exact same situations. one with a sprinkler, one without. you see the flames go across the ceiling. the fire is being contained. it is deactivated as the woman of the sprinkler is closest to the fire goes out. as you see now the sprinklers control the fire. reporter: chief, i want to ask you this.
i don t have a sprinkler system. a commercial building obviously do. how, does it? in california and maryland requires an all-new construction. it s in the international residential code and the national fire protection association standards of code. it is required in new homes. some states don t adopt it. what we see here is the growth so fire burns faster. underwriters laboratory told us this. home fires burn faster. that s what we are seeing in the home. the sprinkler won t save it comes from outside. if it comes from the inside. the smoke alarm is early suppressant and then we need our firefighters for emergency was bonds. reporter: thank you so much for being here. crucial is to have. we want to get the word out. more on this with fox and
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not living up to the spirit of the deal. the only people defending that are doing it to defend obama. we cannot and will not make the certification. we flew from appeasement to iran. abby: details of the harvey weinstein scandalous jason whittle from the stooges academy awards. at the mason hypocrisy of hollywood and the liberal elite and refusing to acknowledge that they have been part of the problem. is going to be time to negotiate health care that s good for everybody. conservative values we don t worship government. we worship god.
they went to our country. those giants fans. you are with us today. david webb, everybody. a lot of news to get to. big show still ahead. chub announcing he will not certify the iran nuclear deal. transfer the president stopping short of scrapping the deal altogether. washington d.c. on what this means. how are you? i m doing well, guys. giants fans out there beware of the broncos. i ll leave it at that. the iran nuclear deal, congress has 50 days to refine the approach is that if someone and then they have to sell it to the white house because again, ari some sort of their breakthrough, the president could still pull the u.s. out of the agreement is
simply speaking, tick tock, congress, tick tock. in the event we are not able to reach a solution with congress and allies, and the agreement will be terminated. it is under continuous review and our participation can be canceled by me as president at any time. keyword there, continuous review. that means they are looking at this very carefully. here s a possible six byte corker, cotton and rubio comest and rubio, snapback of iran goes under the one-year break out. bill that the iaea powers and limit iran s centrifuge program. don t forget, they are also major news out of washington. the president declaring iran s islamic revolutionary guard a terrorist resolution. actions by treasury can come off part of their lifeblood. but to you.
let s get right to the point on this deal. it s a bad deal and has been a bad deal. bernie sanders is tweeting why we are not complying with this deal. this is a guy who should pay more attention to his wife, jane, not a bad deal turns out. the american people get it. the terrorist regime really important in a president operates the people from the government. he s been there for 28 years as they ve been in power. they oppress their people. americans get this is a bad deal. proliferation and the money we gave all says it was a failure from the start. this deal together just yet. he is saying congress, do your job. we ve got to be stronger when it comes to iran, the biggest sponsors of terror in the world. if you take a step back regardless of republican or democrat, is not what everyone should want?
democrats claim to support israel don t pay attention to iran supporting hamas and has 11 attack israel. 11,000 missiles of some sort of pointed at israel whether its rockets or otherwise. grade-point. nancy pelosi and other folks in the media have the reaction. president trump s refusal to recertify is a great mistake that threatens american security and credibility and a very critical time. iran remains in compliant with the nuclear agreement. if they did not come he would not be supporting certification. incredibly hawkish speech. the united dance, tribe administration wants hostility. the president has set the united dates against our closest allies when it comes to the iran deal. president rouhani s position now we cut them out, if the u.s. decides to abide by the terms of the deal, and that is just going to damage american credibility.
todd: you clearly saw nancy pelosi speaking there, in number of members of the media speaking. i m a sort of national security issues, i prefer to get my information analysis from individuals like you, military individuals to bet on the frontlines to understand how diplomacy and military work together. and so, when you speak with these individuals come in many in favor of what the president did. looking at kicking the can down the road mentality, the appeasement mentality, the president said it yesterday when you avoid the problem, it gets worse. david: the problem doesn t go away. an important part is that he withdraw from the battlefield, whatever that is, the diplomatic battlefield, actual battlefield, that doesn t mean your enemy withdraws to the battlefield. you are so engaged in conflict. we are in a conflict with iran. they are hegemonic views that i ve been writing about for
years and i ve been studying for years. it doesn t stop. they further their ideas and proliferate around the world. they are a global threat. can you imagine if they had a nuclear weapon? not just delivery. it s proliferation. abby: it is good for allies. we had general jack keane on the show earlier and it was a reminder of how we forget how important relations are to our allies around the world. israel is one of them. david: egypt s government. at a recent conversation with one of their senior officials. they want security and certainty. other companies, jordan is weak militarily. they give us good intelligence. at the mention of the top of the show a very busy news morning here because yesterday was a very busy news day. as you might imagine, the president did it at 7:00 on the east coast has been tweeting this morning.
health insurance stocks which have gone through the roof during the obama carriers plunged yesterday after i handed the dems windfall. very proud of my executive order which greatly expanded access and far lower cost for health care. millions of people. let s break this down for ultimately what it is. those under the obama administration were illegal when you listen to individuals that jonathan hurley. there are subsidies for insurance companies. no two ways about it. david: they try to pop up as system because the key to obamacare was they need to have the young people by support the old. that is the funding mechanism for not failed, the executive cannot do this. congress, the house controls the money. the money is spent there. it s appropriate, factually correct because there s an appeal under way after the decision. the trumpet menace ration for a
while house continued payment now we see action being taken on not. the rebound and look at the investor side of that. abby: what happened to the people? david: that their bottom line. the profit margin accounts for dollars in subsidies from the dollars sales, whatever else. here s what the president s doing that s different from obamacare that were shoved down everyone s throat. i heard him yesterday. he said i want to work with democrats. i invite them to the white house. i will go see you. democrats in a box because they are open and honest on the campaign trail, then no changes need to be made with health care. i do go back to constituents and say we need to come to the table and have a conversation about how to fix obamacare and now it s a matter of them working together. from one moment i do not
leave, and a moment democrats will come. the president made promises on the campaign trail. he skipped another promise in this promise is real-world effect. not for being political and it s not political. he is a businessman. the blue-collar billionaire gets it to the american people. for completely different reasons. the unraveling of the iran deal, unraveling of hollywood with harvey wines being facing more accusations from the growing number practices or the big question is will he listers decide to keep weinstein in the academy. the folks who put on the oscars every year. seems like we are going into a baseball. we want to focus on this because we think this underlies the hypocrisy. having a meeting today to determine whether the individual has been accused of many things.
they were accusing him. david: how many accusations and undercover tapes do you need to have a meeting to remove harvey weinstein. you need a meeting for this? todd: there s going to be a meeting. a few years ago the esteemed coaches penn state university with regard to the whole jerry sandusky scandal. he was run out of town and for all intents and purposes he was an older gentleman, yes. we had talk show host on the hypocrisy that exists between that situation and what s going on in hollywood right now. take a listen. a few years ago it penn state, joe paterno and jerry sandusky doing terrible things. it was suggested that joe paterno had been made aware of years earlier and he didn t come out in the clearly and in a loud voice about what he had heard.
it was declared that he was just as guilty as kerry jerry sandusky. i would have different circumstances because of his party affiliation, joe paterno, well known friend of george h.w. bush, they lynched him, crucified him because he didn t speak out. all these hollywood people we learned didn t speak up in virtually identical circumstances and they are heroes. done about it for years. david: i reiterate, does hollywood really need a meeting to decide to toss harvey weinstein of hollywood? david: if i were whoopi goldberg i would wake up and take ice, no. i think the answer is pretty clear here. some of those within thick as. i would just be the question on a table. why does hollywood need a meeting. trade for we ve known about this for years. with david letterman.
transfer the american people are frustrated with and talking about this all morning. the society of the media helping that are so quick to jump to conclusions when it comes to president trump base south of unanimous sources. here as he said they ve been sitting on it for years. number of women have come out and are able to mention their name in who they are and what they ve been through, yet it s taken so long for so many people to come out and report this. politics aside, no one should stand for any of it. david: criminal, predatory behavior. coming up, first of his fake news come in a jerry falwell junior says president trump should claim a new phrase for lawmakers for blocking his agenda, fake republicans. transfer plus, just 17 days away from the spooky scary holiday known as halloween. the most popular candy in your state as well.
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with him? gymnast alice jason chaffetz, fox news contributor, former commerce miniature at the house oversight government reform committee. great to see you. first, your take on the term paper publications. when you think about that? i m sure it s cute, probably very fact is, but it s a dangerous low. i wouldn t necessarily encourage a record of frustrated senate is not able to do what i think they would do is get republicans to vote republicans. when you start going around in tearing people apart like that, it s a very dangerous game. at one point ted cruz to take an absurd example did not endorse donald trump at the republican convention i is a fake republican? i don t think so. it s a very dangerous way to go. and seems to me there s two paths to go down at this point for the republican party. further cannibalization are working together on policy. how does the republican party do
the latter? well, it s a great point because i like what margaret thatcher just said you got to go out and win the argument and then you win the vote. but we haven t been doing particularly in the senate were there you are the most deliberative party in the face of the planet don t get to the part of having a debate. you have good thoughtful people like rand paul who weren t going to vote on the procedure to move forward on health care bill. that was a procedural vote. all you want to do is debate the bill, offer amendments. again, a good thoughtful person but you ve got to be able to have the actual debate and win the argument. i m glad you brought up rand paul. a rand paul did is that the republican party needs. he was the only person you seem to be talking about groups coming together on health care come associations can do things along those lines. the president went along with that. we see more of that going forward on health care, but specifically on taxes or do you
think it s of the same and we get to christmas in congress is stuck there because nothing got done. i think the opposite of progress is congress. the founders of our nation said it have to be a very difficult, arduous process and as a conservative i don t want legislation to just fly through time after time after time. nevertheless, the republicans have to live up to what they promised to do, repeal and replace obamacare, just tax cut plan is so we d better go out and build the coalitions and win the the american people. david: jason chaffetz, always a pleasure. enjoy your saturday. still had come at the mainstream fiercely attacking president trump for his tweets. are they missing the real story about how he s transforming our nation? hypocrisy from, you guessed it,
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they are a sexual assault or in the oval office. there has to be a recognition we must stand again that is sexist and misogynistic. this is having the courage to come forward. getting your book, attacking there has been any kind of dismiss them. are you sure about that? be my guest, that it s all been litigated. there was a huge investigation as you might recall the late 90s and there were conclusions drawn. that was clearly in the past. abby: that would integrate and for this? the lucky sheriff, david clark. good to see you this morning. transfer good morning, sheriff. usually i can keep a straight face that i can after listening to that. there s a reason he chose to hillary clinton is crooked hillary. she sat up there saying her
husband was having actual allegations and she defended the actions and trashed the reputation of the spec ends. that dems need to be believed because they have to have the courage to come forward. when the victims came forward, called the floozies. a right wing conservatives see. when she said we have admitted sexual assault person in the white house committee was going back to her husband because that s when we had a suspect inside the white house. what bothers me about this as a yale educated attorney, what hillary clinton just said calling president trump are accusing him of admitted sexual assault, and that is real specific legal language that could be defamation or slander. as a yale educated attorney, she should know that. would he think about that?
she knows that s a high threshold. you can make the smears and get away with it. time and time again not only during the campaign but this phony book tour she is on issues morally bankrupt. she will do whatever she has to do to protect herself, her image and reputation. one person in the united states of america, and maybe in the world that has no respect for the victims of sexual assault than women who have been sexually assaulted and the sort of behavior in the work place is mrs. bill clinton. the reputation of her husband to prop him up in the white house for future political endeavors was more import. women s groups thought to be coming out right now and attacking her and doing nafta are not only her past treatment
of women who have claimed sexual assault or sexual harassment, but for what s going on right now. i m surprised that she was what she wanted to do, she would be defending harvey weinstein right now. right now she knows that the whole thing caved in on images left with nothing to do but kind of shuffled through on its grave. the woman is despicable. abby: that didn t last for more than two days. moniz took these come out. thoughts as well on the issue. the nfl stadium for the national lampoon. use it in his weekly address. listen to this. you want to see those players be part of the country. men and women have given everything for defense. let us renew our commitment to love our country, protect our citizens and ensure this will always be the land of the free and home of the brave.
of course the nfl now has this pronouncement that you have to stand. it s not a rule put in place, david. he is right on this. he s going to kick sand in the face of his fans. mark piazza to fans of the game and we appreciate the fans and knowing us all phony. this is simple. i did some time ago but that s timing it takes about two minutes and 12 seconds to sing the national anthem. and how undisciplined they are. roger goodell fumbled the football on this thing. he chose to allow the inmates to run the asylum and knows that the nfl leaders the authority. they have the authority to establish reasonable work rules.
standing during the nationally at them is a reasonable work role. i think this is important, too. the nfl now if they d fill in the width to your to discuss the situation. what is there to discuss? in grade school, probably second or third grade, maybe even kindergarten. what are the league owners going to do? when classes for the players association? it seems to be a day for meetings whether in hollywood or the nfl with these controversies. thanks for joining us this morning. my pleasure. david: coming up, i ll spoken on many, many issues but admittedly it took jimmy kimmel days to address the harvey weinstein scandal. why is kimmel now playing defense? abby: 17 days away from holland. with the most popular candy in the country?
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abby: now i doubt i can get into. welcome back. if you ve been watching the late-night show, we are left too early. just watch them and never sleep. jimmy kimmel is now under fire for not bringing up that all of the past week what is going on with harvey went seemed. he talks about he brought it up monday. people are saying where is the outrage. so upset about things like gun control and what s going on with health care. someone in hollywood you know many of these factors is. why are you not standing up stronger? theory was defending a position. first of all, the false equivalence is that that somehow is equivalent to what happened in las vegas. i am not in the movie business. and i will add that story came
out like moments before we went to tape on thursday we didn t have a show on friday. you address it on the following monday. of course that was convenient. what they are doing now is they are trying to drag up any kind of especially these gun nuts trying to take in a comedy bit i get out of context and use it as some kind of proof they are saying that i m calling myself a moral conscience of america which i most certainly never did. transferred to be clear, the story broke almost two weeks ago. the critique was where were you? the show on friday but the show is taped so we were unable to talk about it. now they ve been more open to talking about it this week. to his point, not the moral conscience of america. morality and what is the conscience. jimmy kimmel has been clear. you have to go to the tape and watch them being the moral conscience against the right and
every other issue out there. he says he is not really hollywood. when two of your best friends are hollywood people like damon and aflac, i don t know how you separate the two. i grew up around a lot of these fact there is. i m not in hollywood that i m not in front of a camera in hollywood. they are. train for what is so fascinating about this is discussion as we ve seen over the course of alaska blears the late-night talk shows have become more politicized and less funny. one guy who does focus on the funniest jimmy fallon. when you know it from us are focusing on the funny and not politics gets with the hollywood elites. take a listen to this. you would be weird for me to start doing it now. i don t even really care that much about politics. i ve got to be honest. i love pop culture more than i love politics. i m just not that great.
the other guys are doing it very well. cold air is great, he s always into political comedy. i think when it s organic i ll dip into it as well. i ve always made jokes about the president. president obama made thousands of jokes. i remember i had them on the show sorry i put you down. trump is like everyday is a new thing he gives a lot of material and a lot of stuff to make jokes about. it s just too serious. david: about the late-night folks and out winner funny, not political. just be funny for it. i still have more faith in jimmy fallon. if you just as comedy that s one thing that he doesn t want to be in politics and now is commenting on politics. abby: he also says it like it is are there things i m good at and things are not good at. if you want real talent, go talent, go watch his audition tape for us to know years ago. that s the thing. stay in your lane.
stay in the places where what you re good at. give the audience what they want. david: have an lip-synch battle against the rock. still the greatest video out there. abby: exactly. other headlines this morning. investigator about the unmasking of trans campaign advisers. the former u.n. ambassador to the u.n. meeting with the intelligence committee for hours. one of the obama administration officials who administration officials who sources say made request to identify names in pop and are sad. carolina panthers band is arrested after punching an older man in the stands. warning, you may find this video disturbing. kyl amir d. now charged with assault after that altercation during thursday s game. police tracking them down after fan posted this video in instagram. witnesses say they were upset and standing during the game. the suspect attorney said the
man who was harassing him and his girlfriend. is it really worth it? trick-or-treat, the nation s favorite halloween candy collected 10 years worth of data in coming up with this map of popular halloween candy based day. candy corn is my favorite. six days choosing it as their top candy. they will spend somewhere around to $.7 billion on halloween candy this year alone. we have found our own states of the most popular candy. abby: jolly ranchers for utah. i m not going to eat this hot. arizona gets knickers. reporter: it is on by the way. i donate candy bars. but for me this is the only
candy bar. abby: what happened to our states? what about skittles and jolly ranchers? what s going on? you can clean carmelite of your teeth for the next one minute or so while i talk about weather. the fire danger of meeting today. flag warning for the wave for northern and southern california as well as the colorado river valley. arizona. didn t increase the threat conditions out as a dozen not sure when before the dryer from the land off towards the water and the temperatures the next two days are also going to climb which is not good news. all of this fire danger will stick with us. the next chance of rain moving in us by thursday. they start to get towards rainy season. on thursday we have simmering that will certainly help. one last thing for severe weather today that we are worried about in this part of
the country, maybe even a few tornadoes. the i want to hear david read it now. go ahead. take it away. is this the e-zine i get? coming up, the mainstream media in the president s tweets and the president has been added all morning. let s see it. his job responsibilities do not include managing the presidents twitter feed. the president s word adding insult to injury. trying to instill in them, but our next guest says they are missing the real story. stross williard explained. todd: plus, abby is really getting ready to get in the halloween spirit. abby: what on earth? who did that?
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the mainstream media continuing to attack president trump for us to eat. also some controversial comments about the hurricane crisis in puerto rico. job responsibilities do not include managing the presidents twitter feed. the president s words adding insult to in salt injury to insult. david: the next guest we have right here on the couch with us as the press is missing the real story. she writes in her latest op-ed the media remained so home with the president s tweets that it is missed mr. trump s project to transfer in the rest of the federal judiciary because his rules that congress and the proof is an extraordinary class a judicial nominee is now coming
through as he keeps battling the media was shiny objects in the background. government is being redone. abby: joining us now, kimberly stross of the wall street journal. you are saying wake up, let s talk about the american people. this got a lot of attention, but everything else has been missed in the rails her year as the president is now nominated 60 judges and they are all of neil gorsuch. abby: is not the thing you can do in terms of legacy is putting people into a position. not only are they of that caliber, but they are 40 years old. david: how important if i can interrupt you for a moment, that he gives these justices. guys like don willett, that are more caught to traditional in her younger. how important is that because of article iii courts affect us on a daily basis. these guys all look like incidentally appeared what is
interesting about them to about them too as they ve come up with the time and learned in that time when we are dealing with the giant growing bureaucracy and administrative stay. they are attuned. everybody else is focusing on the next level here. why has the mainstream media not figure this out? because they were so busy paying attention to the controversy. the daily theme on and on. this has been out there for everyone to see. we don t know the names of the judges put forward the work mitch mcconnell has been doing to get them through or chuck grassley to run for senate judiciary committee. all notified, so much more entertaining for them to get outraged. you have to wonder, is this a conscious distraction, and trying with the little shiny object over here. i don t think it is, but for him at the useful side effect.
abby: and curiouser thoughts on general john kelly s press conference this week when he spoke directly to the media and talk about how frustrating this for him to go in the white house every day and do his job and great headline after headline with the source about the next person being inspired or disruption in the white house. you are a reporter whether jamaica the interaction? be embarrassed laughter that was going on when he was talking. i would ve just died of shame if i was in there. it was sort of like having a schoolteacher spanking you. just delivering a spanking to a bunch of 90 children. is a no-nonsense guy. is very polite. no disrespect to you, the uri terrible. we are not tabloid media, all of us. todd: thank you so much for being here. on a focus on one final thing. kimberly chose snickers for her
candy of choice. three to one on snickers. abby: thanks for being here. transfer congressman jim jordan, a killing that could mean he and the man who killed osama bin laden. i can t say that enough, rob o neill, all join us live. abby: is getting spooky in our studio. i can t believe hollowing. almost hollowing. we re on a mission to show drip coffee drinkers, it s time to wake up to keurig. wakey! wakey! rise and shine! oh my gosh! how are you? well watch this. i pop that in there. press brew. that s it. look how much coffee s in here? fresh coffee. so rich. i love it. that s why you should be a keurig man! full-bodied.
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transfer spooky fun and halloween. technology is so much fun. good morning. we are getting ready. right here this is a free app you can download. it is simply called halloween spooky sounds. that was just a joke there for sure. so you start with little sound effects and it goes on and on. these are things you can use during halloween to scare the people going by. that is where we are going to go with this. or the other way around. jump into this. this is actually really cool. starts at about $10 from this really cool light of projects images around on the side of your house. this is brandon road. they really nail it with holiday home the core and misses out on
halloween. two really cool mirror right here. look into that mirror. that is the black infinity mirror. it is 40 bucks. it is incredible. these things are really cool and inexpensive ways to celebrate halloween. wave your hand in front of the typewriter. that is an animated automatic typewriter that will set somebody going by in front of us. answer your phone. there you go. and then, these little effects on the right. this is a really called lightbox. and it is battery operated. all of this stuff is a seed or aa battery, really easy to put together. finally, a downloadable app is from the zombie series walking dead.
the walking dead weird resort with a really beautiful picture of abby. abby: you guys are so rude. we did something so wrong which is right here. abby: my husband would tell you that s what i look like all the time. that s terrible. this is another free app to download. all of this stuff, which is online also at fox and friends .com later this morning. david: what are the most popular ones on the app so far? are halloween spooky sounds. this means we need to leave. abby: the nfl now saying they will not force them to stand for the national anthem. rob o neill has done when he joins us in the next hour. david: what does geraldo rivera think i m the president position
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god. [applause] we have some members that have been left in the chamber too long and it s time we eject them what do you think? the president is taking aim at nfl players kneeling for national anthem. president trump: respect our country, respect our flag and respect our national anthem. because i m happy people of america want that. here we are on a saturday morning look at this. abby: and we are feeling happy. it s the snicker effect. president had announcing that he will not certify the iran nuclear deal. pete: but the president is not sure of scrapping that deal altogether. abby: kevin corker is live for us in washington with more on what all of this means kevin you ve been with us all morning long what s the latest?
kevin: listen this is a very interesting washington style story right? in treeing, fighting in the white house administration with capitol hill, this is exactly the kind of story we love to cover here in the nations capitol. here is what s going on okay? the president said look i m all for congress trying to come up with better deliverables for the agreement but he made it clear he will terminate the nuclear deal if it fails to live up to the spirit and the letter of the accord. president trump: the iranian regime continues to feel conflict, terror and turmoil plow out the middle east and beyond. importantly, iran is not living up to the spirit of the deal. if that continues he s walking away. now there s congressional lawmakers working on a fix talking about snapback of u.s. sanctions, keep those
restrictions indefinitely, drop the so-called sunset provisions, bolster the iaea s varification keep in mind it s very difficult to actually get into some of the spaces in iran and limit obviously their centrifuge program. house minority leader nancy pelosi calling it a great mistake this idea of the threat to lead the iran nuclear agreement by the president but clearly that is not a position held by the administration nor by many on capitol hill. this will continue to unfold for the next 5 # days guys? live for us, washington. abby: let s bring in geraldo rivera. good to have you. geraldo: glad to be here. abby: you ve been doing an incredible job on the road but we want your take on the iran nuclear deal and my question to you why are democrats so up in arms about this? the president is not saying we re doing away with this deal yet, he says i want congress to do their job and pushback on iran. why is that so bad geraldo?
geraldo: well i think what is in that story, abbey, is the fact that people ask me particularly my wife and her friends how can i still be friends with the president of the united states when he has all these policies that are so wildly inappropriate, certainly from the progressive half of the political spectrum. my answer is there are two donald trumps. i really, i ve known him forever and i think that i have the ability to assess where his head is at. the donald trump whose the tweeter, impassioned and then when you examine in the sober light of what has actually happened, what he did, you ll see he is well within the norms of a moderate republican president and the policies that he has are traditional policies. sometimes he couches them in flamboyant packaging so to speak and i think the iran nuclear deal is a classic example of
that. on the one hand, he is very ferocious. they re not honoring the spirit of the deal. if they don t do this, if they don t do that i want congress to do this, i want congress to do that but in the cold sober light of day you ll look at it and say guess what? the iran nuclear deal is still in place. abby: right. geraldo: i think they will modify it around the edges and they will maybe forge a better deal going forward but my point is this is not a radical president. this is a traditional moderate president with unorthodox packaging. david: but the response isn t moderate. you ve got democrats saying this will lead to world war iii. you ve got not a deal ratified by the senate as in a treaty under the obama administration and the president within the constitution to your point about this, i call him the constitutional president. he says i m the executive. you re the legislative. you should be doing this so you
talk about your more progressive relatives who are looking at him personally but why not look at him for what he does because he s going within the boundaries of the constitution. geraldo: i definitely think that this president has the worst relationship not only with the press but with those on the other side of the aisle than i have seen since richard nixon. david: but it s not all this fault geraldo. the press came after him. gore ailed o. believe me i m not suggesting it is his fault. i m suggesting when you live in a divided household like mine and i suspect that we are common place all across-the-board. he does not get the benefit of the doubt for anything. anything he does is construed in the most wicked, negative way possible and you know having just experienced abbey you mentioned my puerto rico trip, having seen how he was treated in puerto rico and then seeing press about how he was treated in puerto rico, it was almost an absolute 100% disconnect. i saw crowds that loved him.
i saw crowds that were very excited about the fact that he was there. president obama only visited puerto rico once in eight years and that was for a four hour million dollar fundraiser. abby: so we re not getting the real story to your point. you were on the ground. david: there s a real story on the ground. gore ailed o. the real story sadly is theres enormous work to be done. this is the worst natural disaster in modern history. never have so many americans been so negatively impacted. we are all riotously concerned about what s happening in the wildfires in california but you re talking about people in the order of magnitude of tens of thousands. in puerto rico it is millions of people that are involved, their homes are wrecked they have no electricity, they have no water it is absolutely awful. the next question is how is fema and the federal government doing in response to this crisis? far better than they are given credit for, as was the presidents performance in puerto rico far better than he was given credit. todd: another huge story we are talking a lot about harvey
weinstein situation, as a reformed lawyer talking to another reformed lawyer here, hillary clinton falsely claims donald trump is an admitted sex assault eras she compares him to harvey weinstein but claims allegations against bill are clearly in the past. before we get to this sound bite , let s get to that and then i ll follow-up with a question because ising is bothering me big time about this. this kind of behavior cannot be tolerated anywhere whether it s in entertainment, poll sick s, after all we have someone admitting to being a sexual assault erin the oval office, there has to be a recognition that we must stand against this kind of, you know, action that is so sexist. this depends upon women coming forward having the courage to come forward and yet in your book the three women brought on to stage by trump attacking your husband, you kind of dismissed them. was that the right thing to do are you sure about that? well yes because that was all litigated. that was the subject of a huge
investigation as you might recall in the late 90s and there were conclusions drawn and that was clearly in the past. todd: before we play lawyer geraldo how do you respond to that? geraldo: well i respond several days todd. i think that i m the father of daughters, i respond that way. i am also someone whose a friend to president clinton at that time. it seemed to me that he paid a terrible profound price for his extra curricular activities. how he abused monica, how he did whatever he did to the other women i don t know but this was the president for the second time in the history of the republic who was impeached. he bears that big red eye forever. president clinton, however charm ing. he may have been and has since retained that the charisma he s someone whose only the second time after andrew johnson, president whose impeached by the congress of the united states.
he was ultimately acquitted but he paid a very severe price, and i think that when you recall that president clinton was more popular at the end of his term than he was in the beginning in some ways, i think that the american people tended to forgive him. now i thought when president trump went after the access hollywood tape when president trump went after bill clinton and brought paula jones and so forth to that debate that he had , that he did something that was really very underhanded very wicked, that he made hillary pay for the sins of bill clinton. the issue of whether or not she was an aider and abetter i leave to the viewer. david: he had an admitted sexual accuser. todd: that is the textbook definition of slander when you accuse somebody of having committed a crime. as a yale educated lawyer she should know that. geraldo: she s also a wife and someone who lost an election because of her husband and because of anthony weiner, she lost and i think that is the burden women candidates bear
going forward. david: that s so yesterday. those three words she used, geraldo let s address that to your point. admitted sexual accuser. not just like she said about bill that was so yesterday. she lost, now these three words being tossed at president trump. geraldo: david whether it is in politics as in the case of the clintons, whether it s in the news media as in the case of some of our own colleagues and some of the others who have fallen by the wayside, or whether it is in hollywood, sex harassment stinks, and having lived through many decades and many different social times i can tell you that times have changed. i grew up in the jane mansfield marilyn monroe, the playboy centerfold were our cats meow back in those days. times changed. that was the free love in the 70 s but harvey weinstein represents an enduring stereotype. this big fad hairy sweaty be
jeweled emperor of movies has 18-year-olds, 20 year olds coming into his office desperate for a break in show business and instead what they get is okay you do me something and i ll do you something. the casting character is horrifying, harvey weinstein is like one of the most malignant examples of the casting couch but i think that this inequality between subordinates and superiors is something that men now know and abbey you know this men now know that they do any of the stuff at their pair ill. that this is you screw up, your career is ruined. we have plenty of examples. todd: as it should be. abby: it s alarming it takes women so long now, still in today s day and age to come out and even in hollywood. david: disconnected and deflected to call on the president admitted sexual accuser. still waiting on that one. geraldo: one quick one i hate that we applaud when it s our enemy who falls.
abby: geraldo you re so right let s take politics out of it. geraldo great to have you on. great work in the past few weeks todd: remember the infamous tarmac meeting between bill clinton and loretta lynch? the fbi just found something that could ignite another scandal. david: one republican lawmaker has another idea of geraldo s haters of president trump in congress. we have some members that are done that have been left in the chamber too long and it s time that we eject them. what do you think? david: his colleague and house freedom caucus remember jim jordon, he s here to react live, next. so tell us your big idea for getting the whole country booking on choice hotels.com. four words, badda book. badda boom.
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have been left in the chamber too long and it s time that we eject them. what do you think? david: house freedom caucus chairman calling on voters to replace lawmakers who do not support the president s agenda. joining us now with reaction, congressman jim jordan, a member of the house freedom caucus. congressman good to see you. you too david good to be with you. david: let s get right into it what your fellow congress men and freedom caucus members said, what do you say to that? stating the facts, look voter s have a way of remembering when their elected official doesn t do what he said or she doesn t do what she said that i say this all the time. our jobs pet basic. what did you tell the voters you d do when you ran for the job, what did they elect you to do, let s keep our promise and do that so maybe there will be some of these town halls have already been this for some members a little come to jesus moment where the voters say wait a minute. you said you were going to do x, how come you haven t done that, so i think it s exactly right.
todd: one of the topics of discussion there, in your congress there, sir, is obamacare obviously everybody is talking about that and this week president trump ended the so-called illegal insurance company subsidies but my question for you, sir, if these were deemed illegal, why are 18 states and washington d.c. suing with attorney generals that quite frankly should know the letter of the law? well because they want the money. i mean, you know the left always wants more federal government and more federal government money, but they are illegal. there s been a court whose decided that. we know they weren t appropriat ed dollars so the president did the right thing and for the left, yesterday nancy pelosi and schumer talked about this sabotages the law. for goodness sake this law was falling apart and if you want to talk about sabotage never forget jonathan gruber, the architect of obamacare according to the new york times who told us that they lied to the american people democrats when they passed this thing seven years ago. that s the real sabotage. remember when they told us all
these things guys? they said if you like your doctor keep your doctor, like your plan keep your plan. the president of the united states, president obama told us, premiums will decline on average $2500. how is that working out for the american people? they went just the opposite direction so nine different lies they told us and yet somehow doing something, stopping an unconstitutional action somehow that s sabotaging the law? it s ridiculous. what we need to do is what we told the voters what we were going to do, what mark was alluding to in his comments. todd: quickly sir you work with these individuals there in congress. don t they run the risk of having their state attorney generals obviously on the democratic side completely having the law in against them if they create precedent on a legal standard that they ve already lost on. jonathan turley was on talking about that just yesterday. why are they like this with regard to this? you have to ask them. it s wrong. i think it s very clear the constitution is clear, the
legislative branch appropriates dollars, the executive branch can t spend it. it s that fundamental and that s why it s important the president did what he did yesterday and said look i won t continue to engage on an unconstitutional activity with a bunch of false statements given to the american people. i won t continue that but what has to happen is members of congress have to do what they said. six republican senators voted against the clean repeal legislation, voted against back in july the exact same legislation 20 months ago they supported. david: just about 30 seconds left congressman. what s the next step for the congress? are they going to deliver something to go along with the president, the leader of the party real quick. we better deliver on tax reform, cut taxes for the american people simplify the tax code and put together a tax code that s condusive to economic growth that s what we focus on. todd: jim jordan thank you so very much. this marine lost his legs, while serving in afghanistan and now running 31 marathons in 31 days
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abby: thank you, todd. well democrats in the media upset that president trump is following through on his promises to dismantle obama s legacy. take a listen. never though have we seen a president so bent on reversing negating his predecessor s signature accomplishments. if you want to know what president trump is against you only look at what president obama was for and in all fairness none of this should be a surprise. he campaigned on much of it and if nothing else he s keeping his promises now. what may be surprising or at least being widely debated is how much of this is personal. abby: things like the iran deal, obamacare, immigration, regulations on coal, and of course the climate accord. here is caylee mcananey, and director of strategic for hillary clinton adrian elrod. good morning ladies . good morning, abbey. abby: so how often, caylee you have politicians running for office promising a million things and when they get elected , they rarely follow through on those promises and here we have a president you may not agree with him on policy but
he s saying look i promised this to the people that voted for me and i ll do everything i can to put those in place. is that what we re seeing happen here? exactly. this is a president that s making good on his promises to the american people and it s refreshing, unlike other politicians like you said who reverse course when they enter the white house. president trump is making decisions that are hard, but necessary on the iran deal, on the paris climate accord, on daca. these were decisions he promised to the american people and now there are things put into action , the american economy is coming back. it is an exciting time to have a president whose actually go to do what he says. we re not used to that in washington but that s what we re seeing. abby: another thing we re not used to seeing adrian is both sides coming together. we may not see that happen on things like healthcare or this iran deal but you heard from president trump yesterday. he s at least extending out the hand inviting democrats and i want you to come to the table i want to have these conversations because i want to get things done.
we ll see if that actually happens. we are ten months into president trump s term and first term and he s basically gotten nothing done and look to your point, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi both made it very clear they re willing to come to the table with the president with republicans and do something to lower the high cost of premiums for healthcare. there are fixes that need to be made to obamacare but they are absolutely not going to repeal. you re seeing president can t really going in sabotaging the current healthcare for example, by open enrollment taking place november 1 through december 15 and this used to be a three-month period for open enrollment and now its been down to six weeks and also slashed the marketing budget for obamacare by 90% so he s certainly doing what he can. abby: well you just adrian i ll jump in because you said he hasn t done anything basically so far. you ve already been mentioning thins you may not agree with but things he s put in place. why are democrats so upset then if as you say he has done nothing? well we re upset because we actually would like to work on
some very key issues that do need to be fixed again going back to obamacare but we re certainly not going to repeal it it took a long time as both of you know to get obamacare passed it was a bipartisan effort. it s going to be that s why you re seeing efforts to repeal obamacare fail because people want their healthcare, they like their healthcare, they just want the costs lowered so democrats are willing to come to the table on those issues and work with the president but we re not willing to put people s lives at risk or their health at risk in order to give him something in the win column. abby: caylee you want to jump in here i see. yeah, because obamacare was not a bipartisan effort that was a far left effort that reeked havoc upon the american people and the president has done a ton and signed 52 pieces of legislation, rescinded 860 executive orders, the keystone pipeline is being built, we re out out of tpp, the iran deal is being rectified. we can go on and on. this is a president of action that s dismantling the failed
legacy of president obama and i m not sure why the mainstream media is trying to say this is a personal, this is personal to president trump. that s why he s doing everything the opposite of president obama. no, he s a republican. obama is a democrat. they have opposite agendas and president trump is getting things done on be half of the american people and everyone should be very excited about that and absolutely false to say he s done nothing. he can t get tax reform done. well we don t know that yet. if there s work to be done. he s 10 months into the administration. i would say talking to the american people a lot are saying let s put politics aside and please come together both parties and figure out what we can do to make everyone s lives better whether it comes to foreign policy or healthcare or immigration so we can end it there we ll see where all this goes adrian caylee good to see you. thank you, abbey. thank you abbey. abby: the timeline changing again in the las vegas massacre the reason behind the switch and the sheriff s emotional moment at the podium yesterday we ll bring that to you just ahead. and the nfl now saying they will not force players to stand for
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yesterday the president stands firm and speaks about the irgc. they trained the force and they make weapons that kill not only american soldiers that kill people all around the world. the asymmetric weapons and labeling them a foreign terrorists organization how important? this has been done a long time ago. the iranian revolutionary guard has been up to this stuff forever. i mean long before 9/11. and they support everybody that s death to america death to israel so they will support hezbolla, hamas, the taliban and the revolutionary guards everywhere. we fought against them in iran. they were the dudes that taught al qaeda how to make the improvised explosive device that will rip through, explosives go faster than bullets and go right to the vehicles tearing legs off killing marine soldiers, airmen, sailors. they ve been at it all the time and they do everything. they have cyber warfare, they attacked parliament this summer. they re everywhere, nasty people and again, they want terror and
they want the end of the world so not a good group of people. abby: rob your perspective is so interesting because you ve actually been on the ground, been there fighting against these terrorists. yes. abby: now you re here at home seeing politics play out. what is so wrong with what the president is now saying, he s not doing away with the deal at least yet, he s saying congress we have to be tougher when it comes to iran. why are democrats so upset? democrats seem to get upset with president trump because he tells the truth which is odd. i mean, i run into these revolutionary guys in afghanistan fighting them. of course there s something with dealing with the iranians leave it or not they lie to you. todd: what? i m just a student here at the gate in afghanistan and these are bad guys trying to do bad stuff. they re out there and it s very real when you re over there. here you can make it a political thing and play party politics so i can stay in office all this stuff but they are really real bad guys they don t care what we look like if we re american or israeli they want to kill us.
todd: let s switch gears to the anthem protest nfl will not, will not make players stand and maybe not so coincidentally thursday night football ratings are down as these anthem protests continue. what s your take on this? i think that they ve lost the message. i think it turned as opposed to originally even though i still don t buy it against police brutality now its turned into an anti-trump is what they re doing i think as an insult to police and every veteran i know is insulted and this is something i haven t heard brought up yet. how about the police stop going and let the nfl shell out a few million dollars for private arm security because the cops are there protecting them and i just don t understand it any more. you can t, they try to say we re not disrespecting the troops. we re just doing a peaceful protest. just because you say you re not disrespecting the troops doesn t mean you re not disrespecting the troops. david: it doesn t matter what they say when it comes to how the american public reacts. i get it they want to protest.
my take on that by the way is turnaround and protest the comes on the sidelines. you want to protest against police brutality turnaround take a knee to the police officer in uniform but the american people see disrespect for what it is and i think that s even broader than the american military and families. i think it s just an american thing. you raise your right hand or put your hand over your heart. the anthem plays people get choked up about it. definitely they do and if they want to take a knee after or before the anthem i d join them but i think they ve lost what the protest is and if you need to explain what your protest is you might be doing it wrong because they need to keep saying well we re not doing this but you know what you re doing taking it and it s disrespectful as far as i can tell. i m sure there s vets out there that disagree with it. abby: you re right now we re not even talking about the issues they are trying to protest. we re talking about the disrespect with the flag. i think it started off with colin kaepernick being lazy. he made up the story well i talked to a vet and he said it s cool for me to kneel. no it s not.
he s against fascism wearing a fidel castro shirt. maybe he should open a book. david: but yet he quotes winston churchill. abby: rob good to have you. thanks. abby: if you can t stand for the flag and the anthem what can we stand for in this country. good to have you with us. i do have other headlines this morning. las vegas police once again revising the timeline of the deadly shooting saying there was no six minute gap, now say stephen paddock shot a hotel security guard outside the suite at the very same time or within seconds on firing on concertgoer s. the clark county sheriff tearing up as he talked about the heroic actions of first responders yesterday take a listen. brady sustained four separate gun shot wounds and the reason why i bring this one up, he asked me if he to go back to
work today. abby: just so tough. 58 people were killed 546 others were injured in that horrific attack. also just this morning george clooney denies black listing his former er co-star for reporting onset harassment. vanessa marquez who starred wendy goldman accused him of having a role in her being axed from the hit show and he publicly condemned harvey weinstein s actions and he responded us in a statement saying i had no idea vanessa was blacklisted if she was told i was involved in any decision about her career then she was lied to. and the new york times have been accused of bashing the president on social media so now the paper is putting a new policy in place to make sure its journalists don t look bias. the new guidelines read in social media posts our journalists must not express partisan opinions, promote
political views endorse candidates make offensive comments or do anything else that undercuts the times journalistic reputation. we ll see where that goes. and a remarkable story determination in 2010, u.s. marine rob jones was serving in afghanistan when he stepped on a landmine losing both of his legs but he didn t let that slow him down. he s making it his mission to help other veterans listen to this by running 31 marathons in 31 days, to raise money for wounded veteran charities and he joined us earlier on the show ahead of his race in new york city this morning and here is what he told us. i just figured this situation now so i m going to my mission is still the same, make a difference in the world, leave the world better than i found it so how will i do that now? abby: he s so inspirational. you can help by going to his website robjonesjourney.com. todd: i got chills during that entire interview. what an amazing guy. david: but it s a marine. abby: i asked him that
question. i said how did you find that ability to wake up after you didn t have legs and he said it s always been apart of me and that s instilled in so many military you get up and you keep fighting. david: joining the military volunteering to take this job, a blank check to this nation it s something you do. i don t know how many guys no matter what time you serve remember when they raised their hand and what it was like. todd: go outside to rick richmuth now for a look at our weather. rick, how is the situation out there in california? rick: a rough weekend ahead yesterday was a little bit of a better day. they got a lot of things under control evacuations are in sonoma county as winds have shifted. take a look at a map showing you what s going on with red flag warnings going in effect all across much of california throughout the day. the wind will continue to be the case. i m not sure if we will bring the maps up or not but it s an offshore wind that brings the air from the land instead of from the ocean that s what happens in california and we have the offshore winds that continues to bring dry conditions, temps warmup a lot for the day today and tomorrow,
in fact the next three days guys we do have a chance of moisture coming in by the time we get towards thursday afternoon which we desperately need. abby: rick the good news behind you? christmas lights are going up on the trees. rick: how is that good news? abby: because i love the holiday season. david: i love christmas but it s not halloween yet. abby: we had a debate on this show a year ago and clayton and tucker or someone at the time talking aunt christmas decorations and people that keep them up all year around. todd: oh, no no no. rick thank you. president trump backing the first sitting president ever to address the values voter summit. president trump: in america, we don t worship government, we worship god. [applause] todd: so what did the crowd think speaking of christmas they have a lot to say. i went behind the scenes with kellyanne conway and many more that s coming up next. david: devastating wildfires burning across california. one pastor was forced from his home in flames and he s using
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todd: so yesterday i was in washington d.c., our nations capitol talking to folks at the values voters sum it inside view as the president is about to go speak, as you might imagine that crowd really really fired up to hear the president speak and we got a chance to speak with individuals both dignitaries as it were and the regular folk about what they thought. here is what they had to say. president trump: this morning i m honored and thrilled to return as the first sitting president to address this incredible gathering of friends [applause] president trump: so many friends. todd: you heard the president s speech what did you think? oh, he was fantastic like he always is. he was very relaxed very much at home but he also recognizes how important this voter group was. it was so inspirational, it was just amazing.
it seems like the values is something he was really focused on. i think the president did outstanding and he hit a home run here and connected with the people. todd: how do you think the president is doing with regard to conservative issues? he s doing very well. go back and remember that 81% voted for donald trump which is the highest ever. i think president trump is doing an amazing job when it comes to conservative issues. president trump: everyone here today is brought together by the same shared and time less values. many times voters like this are pigeon holed into one or two issues when we know there are actually full spectrum conservatives, social economic moral and defense issues. president trump: we protect religious liberty. todd: how do you feel the president is doing with regard to what you call the attack on christian liberty? i think he s doing an outstanding job. president trump: we cherish the sacred dignity of every human life. we believe he s doing wonderful things for the pro life movement and speaking out for our values, defending the unborn.
president trump: bureaucrats think they can run your lives, overrule your values. todd: how do you feel the president is doing with regards to small government issues? he s doing an absolutely fantastic job. todd: with regard to issues important to you how do you think president trump is doing? marvelously. in spite of all of the attacks and vicious and the rest of that he is progressing forward. i agree with the president, the progress he s making, i want to encourage him to continue to bring us together. president trump: we re saying merry christmas again. [applause] todd: why is something as simple as merry christmas so important? it s symbolic. that is symbolic of the greater battle that is raging for the heart and soul of this nation. we need to bring christmas back and i love how donald trump is doing that. president trump: in a trump administration, our nations religious heritage would be cherished, protected and defend ed like you have never seen before. the encouragement that i think people here at the values voter summit and across the
country takeaway is that we have a president who understands these are important issues and he s working on it. i ve been in this country since 1967 and when i came here, america was great and i saw the deterioration and donald trump is going to revive those values and restore the great america. president trump: above all else we know this, in america, we don t worship government. we worship god. [applause] todd: you guys what really stood out to me about the emphasis on family there is as you saw in that piece and as the crowd dictated, it really does transcend race and religion, the two biggest years were from merry christmas and for israel there you go. david: by the way my part on this that little girl? we were just talking about christmas when she said the christmas line and i m like that s awesome because i m not guy that when the song triggers in my head that it s christmas music. todd: for the next month and a half. abby: is it too soon to start now? todd: not for abbey. abby: i ll be getting it going on the car ride home.
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congregation and this fire just tell us about that. pastor: well you know, it was kind of an odd situation because i was on a plane to pittsburgh to do some tv interviews so my wife text me and said that we have five minutes to get out of the house what do you want? and it was amazing, you know, how it changes your whole outlook on life, because i thought of well, i want family photos, i want the flag of my father that was draped at his arlington funeral, and you just kind of go through the basics of life but you realize when it all comes down to it we have everything because we have our family, our life and whatever happens is really in god s hands abby: you ve written a beautiful op ed for fox news.com and i want to read our audience apportion. you say i get it moral evil can be explained by the free will of man but much of the things we face are not a result of our free will, so where do i go from here? either god or nature which he
created, must cause these physical evils, but these things seem incompatible with all lov ing, all-powerful god. a lot of people after, you know, hurricane devastates their home and everything they had and loved and fires like you re experiencing they re angry right they wonder why god could do something like this, where do you find that strength and how do you turn to faith to help you rebuild? pastor: over the years, of course i ve dealt with a lot of situations like this and i believe there s a divine tension and somehow we know that there s this god who loves us and obviously has blessed us in so many ways but at the same time we have this tension of the not yet always abides with us and i think that s where our faith really grows is in that tension and when we try to deny that tension, then we move into anger , we move into bitterness, we question the character of the nature of god himself. todd: pastor phil i want to ask you this quickly. what do you say to all of the folks there in california who
are undergoing the same thing that unfortunately your family did? pastor: i think, you know, community is important. love one another. we live in a call de sack that s really multi-ethnic and multi- religious and we just love , you know we love our muslim neighbors and booed it s neighbors and try to show the love of christ to everyone and i think love never fails is what the bible says. abby: pastor good to have you here i m glad your family is safe and you re back in your home we re hoping the best for everyone else out there. good to see you. thank you so much. abby: more fox & friends right after this.

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he was able to fire thousands of shots, dozens of volleys, that s what they are saying, he had high-powered weapons to do that. the s.w.a.t. team didn t actually enter the room for 72 minutes but they are saying after nine or 11 minutes, the gunfire stopped. it was deemed nothing more than a barricade, that s why the eight s.w.a.t. team waited so long. the understanding is after that nine to 11 minutes, the gunman turned the weapon on himself. he had three cameras in the room, we ve been talking about this all day long. what we didn t know his two of the cameras were outside in the hall including one that that was actually hooked up to way service car from the hotel. the third camera was inside the hotel room but it was on the peephole looking down the hallway. there are a port saying this guy tried to film himself not true. all he was concerned about where the police officers and the teams coming down that hallway. he wanted to be notified of
that. we also learned that they haven t found it so far some 47 different weapons in the hotel, in his house in mesquite in the house in reno. the big news of the news conference is in the hotel, of the 23 weapons they found, there were 12 bump stops, those are the pieces that you attach onto these weapons that actually turn the trigger into an automatic firing it doesn t alter the gun itself but it means the trigger can fire automatically, guns can then shoot off between 40800 rounds per minute. imagine having a dozen of these in the room at the same time. they also showed us some body camera footage from police officers who were down on the ground in the concert area. i want you to look at this video because this is the officers telling people where to go, listen if you will for a few seconds on them being able to try to decipher where the gunshots are coming from.
something so meticulous, so many extra weapons over the course of so many days? let me add one more factor, in his car they found ammonium nitrate which is a key ingredient for a bomb. ammonium nitrate was the big weapon inside the u-haul. they found that in his car. the cache of weapons and the ammunition, they said he could have a fire hours. on top of these windows to actually get a better view down on the crowds, two separate windows broken out and two of them were as different angles so they could methodically get different angles on the crowd to kill as many people as possible. if the gun is jammed or if it got overheated he s able to grab another fully loaded weapon and then start shooting again. 12 of them, he could have fired and fired and fired for maybe an hour or longer with the ammunition he had to. he was set for a lot more destruction that it actually resulted in.
brian: one of the first people we heard from who knew him was his brother, 90 years old he had no idea about this. in his 43 guns he collected them over 20 years. this is his brother, doesn t he know guy has at least 43 guns over the course of 20 years? he said i saw one handgun i never even saw him interested in guns. if the brother didn t know or says he didn t know, maybe he didn t, he lived in florida and the gunman lived here, he knew he was a hunter he knew he had some guns come i didn t know he had that many guns print it brings you to the girlfriend, she lived with him in the home in mesquite. they shared a home up in reno, there was a home in mesquite, texas. she had to have known the guns existed, ammonium nitrate found in his car. there had to be some understanding that this was a heavily loaded man and what was his intention, it brings you full-circle to exactly who knew
what. it was this thing planned elaborately and it just didn t go as planned, or was this the initial plan and he just kind of got scared and pulled it off in a hurry. nobody quite knows what the initial plan was and if this was the ultimate plan that he had in mind. brian: i have two experts standing by, much of which is new, before you go what about these pictures that emerged in the philippines of 2012 and 2013, they looked very authentic i understand. tens of thousands of dollars is going to the philippines, evidently $100,000 went to the philippines, we cannot say too sure if it went to her, where s it going? that was the question, that was brought up for police. they know the transfers were made, they know the money was sent. the assumption was that was sent to the girlfriend but nobody really knows.
that s the whole thing, were trying to figure out the origin, try to figure out who is receiving the money. the assumption was that the girlfriend but they can t really nail that down. right now what they re doing is they re taking all of the electronics out of the house, all of the computer hard drives, they are scouring those right now hoping that will give them some idea of who he s been talking to and who he s been in communication with, not just in the past few weeks but the past few months or years, give them a better idea to build a profile or find out exactly what was happening, why was the money going over there and was there some kind of nexus to what happened here on sunday night. brian: almost 48 hours since the incident happened and we have so many fundamental questions, i sense that still breaking news all throughout the week, there s so much mystery involved in this, thanks so much, live from las vegas. now let s bring in to discuss this at a higher level, jim
hansen the president of the security studies group. he s excellent as is counterterrorism expert aaron cohen. first off, we heard about another report to the daily beast is running, the sky actually rented hotel rooms outside another concert, perhaps he was going to perpetrate this horrible incident on september 28th instead of having it on sunday night. what do you take from that? that hasn t been corroborated yet but it s interesting, could it have been a dry run, did he go to this potentially and lose his nerve? where in this doesn t play into, when the girlfriend leaves is he somewhat free from any earthly concerns? what pushed him over the edge? at this point we don t have any ideology, we don t have any massive life event or anything that would normally trigger it.
was it just some sort of psychotic break? all of those things play into it and what brought him into that hotel room overlooking a country music festival where the daily beast report had it overlooking a pop and rap festival. there is no way to tell was he targeting one kind of crud or anything else. it s painful to not have any real information as to what this guy was up to. brian: i want to do it with experts like yourself, isis doubled down and said he s our guy. they do have a huge presence in the philippines. if i m putting you on the case, do you rule out them playing a role? i wouldn t rule them out, especially when you re dealing with a group like isis and what it comes to fundamentally dealing with potential terror, you have to keep everything on the table and then start pulling it out backwards. pulling them away and say no, no, no, i wouldn t rule out isis. but i also would continue to harness my focus on everything
we do know right now. the sense that i m getting and if i was profiling this particular individual, to thwart potential terror attacks. what we do know is he was a loner. we do know he was with a girl, he was divorced. the place was a specific reason which was up in this hotel to open fire. cameras mounted outside. he turned the gun on himself and killed himself, he fits all of the how if you will regarding a mass killer in the sense that he was methodical and isolated. what we don t know as jim pointed out eloquently, we don t have the how. i think we re going to see in a very short period of time, once
we get that girlfriend down and start downloading the forensics on that computer and those phones and tracing the money, we re going to start to get a much clearer picture over the next we are of the why. brian: evidently he went to a local starbucks in mesquite and multiple workers said he treated his girlfriend horrendously, they used to wince when he had conversation and embarrass her publicly. something i know you put together if isis wasn t involved in terror groups that don t have a role, they are watching, watching the response, they re watching the reaction, does that were you? there s no substantiation for that other than them, they compared it to a time that they shut down the russian helicopter and all the media says this
wasn t them until they put out the proof later in their magazine. if they could be recruiting 64-year-old white guys, how much more horrifying that was then bearded guys named mohammed, we would never know who the bad guy is. if they re working at whether or not there s any reality. his father was a bank robber who escaped from prison and actually hit out for a number of years. the idea that this guy was a loner, off the grid, we don t know a lot about them because of that. brian: how much would you like to question his girlfriend, already spoken to the fbi? she is from australia, spent some time in hong kong, japan, and the philippines. you ve got to recreate all of her locations, correct?
i wouldn t have even waited for her to come back, i would ve been in the philippines with a task force sitting her down on foreign soil. directing a very targeted interrogation designed specifically around science which would be to read and calibrate based on her body language, i would be looking for every potential tell from the eyes dilating to whether the palms were facing towards me or away from me, to work her arms were placed, to the tone of her voice. dilating and bisecting that information and cross referencing that with every piece of data she s given in the interview to track down exactly whether or not she knew what her boyfriend was up to. ultimately she does or she doesn t, the whole thing is very fishy. i believe were going to see some very interesting things unfold regarding this case. brian: we can t analyze until we know what happened, 48 hours later we still don t know what happened. we ve got to have your back, same team, keep in mind the
sheriff has been under pressure but he gives us great information during the press conferences i think that helps tremendously, thanks. meanwhile, we move ahead, hillary clinton playing the blame game again, new information on the podcast. pointing her fingers at republicans and the nra, will tell you why right after this quick break, jason chief jason. . stuff happens. shut down cold symptoms fast with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. only have a sore throat? get long-lasting relief for up to 6 hours with new alka seltzer plus sore throat relief.
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brian: here s what we have right now, let s talk a little politics. hillary clinton is using the las vegas massacre to speak out about gun violence where she s casting blame on the g.o.p. and the nra. do you feel like they re complicit, the g.o.p. and the nra, and the gun epidemic were seeing in america? of course they are, this is nothing that you are on a unadulterated greed by people who want to sell as many guns as they can to engage in a fear and rhetoric about why everyone has to have guns. brian: states police who triumphantly returned to the capital last week, after being shot in june, struggling to save
his own life, had this to say about a gun issue with an exclusive interview with martha maccallum about two hours ago. inevitably questions about the second amendment are raised by what happened in las vegas. it happens almost immediately. have you, in your experience of your own, and what you saw in las vegas, as it changed how you feel about any of that? it s fortified that, you have to recognize that when there is a tragedy like this, the first thing we should be thinking about is praying for the people who were injured and doing whatever we can do to help them, to help law enforcement. we shouldn t first be thinking about promoting our political agenda. brian: he doubled down on how he feels about guns, joining us to react, jason chief it s is always on the move and a former chairman of the house oversight committee, fox news contributor. we also have with us richard goodstein a democratic strategist. do you think it s appropriate to
talk about gun violence now? many say if you want to change things now is the time to do it while the focus is on it. at this point in time when we talk about saying prayers, about pausing, in the house of representatives, you had two democrats from massachusetts that wouldn t even join the rest of the body and taking a moment of silence to recognize the victims, that s how disgusting this debate is already. hillary clinton is trying to be relevant, she s not afraid of she wants to take away your gun guns, divide this nation injecting herself into the story, it s just absolutely disgusting. when you have people in the hospital fighting to save their lives. brian: you don t have the leaders in congress doing that, chuck schumer is not taking that stance and neither is nancy pelosi. does it surprise you that hillary clinton wants to put her two cents in while people are still struggling to survive?
i don t remember jason or any of his colleagues criticizing donald trump for calling for a muslim man exactly after the san bernardino event. that was not very sympathetic to the victims, that was trying to push an agenda right on the heels of a tragedy. one other question, all of these people who are saying now is not the time, now is the time we should be feeling sympathy, the dunk gun debate should be later. tell me which one mr. chairman, which one of your colleagues announced a time after some gun incident like this, now is the time period of you cannot point to one because the fact is the nra is calling the shots. if it wasn t for the nra. don t look into the camera and tell us i ve got five guns and nobody is taking my guns away, nobody. don t get out there and tell me, don t tell me that the nra pulls my strings or anybody else s. if you have a direct evidence,
but that s it. here s the evidence, 90% of the public supports universal background checks, let s do a thought experiment. would we have background checks? brian: you know what s fascinating about this conversation, a background check when i left stopped this guy, there s nothing in his background. he was able to get guns legally. if you want to make it semiautomatic to automatic, that means a ban of automatic weapons, people have already been four, it s already been through. if you want to to a debate on assault a lot of the things that people have been brought up already have not been part of the case as we know it. if you saw the first block we had of the show, there s still so much we don t know. that s one of the great mysteries here, to be this far away from it, 48 hours and still not know the motive i think that is different from san bernardino. we did have direct evidence pretty quickly.
we are very concerned that people are coming into this country and not knowing their background. i m still concerned about that to this day. we don t fully understand this story and i do believe they have some very direct theories that they aren t sharing with the public yet, let them do their job. i will engage in the debate, i do think there are things to talk about as it relates to mental health and other types of things. don t prescribe a solution if you don t know what the problem is. there are mental health problems and every other country on this planet and none of them have the gun violence that we d do. we ve had more gun deaths since 1970 then in every war the u.s. has been involved with since the revolutionary war. spend time in chicago because they have a huge problem too. look at what s going on there.
brian: nationwide gun violence is down it s almost cut in half. i do think we should approach something in a levelheaded way to see if we can stop the next thing. nobody is pro-mass shooting but i wasn t shocked not just that hillary clinton and others, late-night hosts were talking about in 10 minutes to very popular politicians immediately sang nra and republicans and indicating they are complicit. i was stunned by that as if democrats are responsible for that crazy guy that was shooting republicans at that softball field which we know is also not the case, thanks guys. the power of prayer at a time of tragedy. a prominent pastor who knows the right way through this horrible situation will be joining us next. i accept i take easier trails than i used to. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused
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brian: reporting on the latest, the girlfriend of the killer is heading back to america, she is a person of interest and were supposed to get new information there. in this time of tragedy, many have turned to prayer as a way of coping with the crisis including the president of the united states. joining us to discuss this how religious leaders should respond to this is someone who wrote a book about it, he is pastor robert jeffers. his book is out, it s excellent, a place called heaven. can you possibly find a way to make sense of evil like this, evil that we can t even figure out a motive to yet? i think we have to avoid pat answers to question like this but what we can say with absolute certainty is what the bible says with certainty. first of all, evil is a reality, the president touched on that yesterday. jesus talked about at 2,000 years ago. he said satan is real, he s the
author of evil, he s a liar and a murderer. even though evil is real and the stranglehold on the world is real, it s also temporary. the great hope in the bible is the one day the lord is going to return, he s going to defeat evil and that hope of heaven is powerful enough to extinguish the horrors of las vegas. brian: 58 families wondering why their son, daughter, husband or wife is dead because they wanted to go see a country music concert and when they hear there s evil in the world, that s not good enough, what do you say to that? a few years ago my wife and i are driving out in the middle of west texas and our headlights went out and i thought how in the world are we going to make it home? we got behind an 18-wheeler and was focused in on the tail lights that 18-wheeler and doing so let us safely home.
i would say to anyone who is going through a storm in their life, their are some truths we can focus on. number one, god is love and he is good, we know that. he is all-powerful, all wise, he is having a plan, even though we don t understand that immediately. ultimately, god is going to defeat evil. the pain we feel is real but it s also temporary. if we focus on those things we know to be true, those truths will see us through the storm and delivers to the other side. brian: we wrote a book about that, it would help situations like this make more sense. it s called a place called heaven, a pathway to victory. thanks so much. coming up straight ahead, the late-night comics diving headfirst into the gun control debate. will their support cross a line with viewers
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world where there are people who would put a gun before your lives. the sky had ten of them in his room apparently legally, at least some of them were there legally, i don t know why our so-called leaders continue to allow this to happen. i don t think it should be so easy for one demented person to kill so many people so quickly. obama s executive order, or a better answer. reinstate the assault weapons ban or come up with a better answer, anything but nothing. doing nothing is cowardice. just be honest and tell us, this is how it is, this is how it will continue to be, instead of saying this is of the time to talk about it, just say were never going to talk about it. gun violence should not be a staple of american life. some say it s too early to talk about gun control. for those victims last night it s far too late.
brian: james gordon should know there was a backpack bomb that blew up the up the ariannn date concert, they had to get special cops to suppress them, bounced throughout france, spain, canada, all due to different domestic terror opportunities and an angler that s going crazy with over five attacks. joining us right now to analyze should wait late-night comics be weighing in on offense, one of the hosts of the blaze lawrence jones and in washington, kerry sheffield. do you lawrence, are you okay with people on late-night television doing something that s not usual, it s telling us how to think and offer their opinions on comedy shows. i m not too happy about it especially considering that i feel like there s this effort to disarm americans. i m comfortable in the state of texas because i know when i go to my movie theater that i can carry my gun where there could
be potentially some type of terror attack. it seems like these late-night hosts have an agenda, they want to disarm us all. it s typically a time when we would have these we would come together as a country, they are more concerned with their political agenda. brian: younger audience, not nearly as big as it used to be it used to be nbc and everybody else until letterman split off. do you think they are doing the responsible thing sounding off and giving their opinion? our hearts are with the victims in las vegas but this is a responsible. if you have a public platform you do need to have both sides, that s what they like to say they believe in and nuance. this is not nuance, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again. gun violence should not be a staple of american history, it is a recent thing. it s a recent thing because our society, our fabric, our culture, we used a value virtue, we used a value life, liberty
and the pursuit of happiness and the constitution. the constitution explicitly says we have a right to bear arms and protect ourselves. what happens is the shooter and all the other mass shooters reject virtue. brian: they all have the same point of view, jimmy fallon gets in trouble for ratings but they all despise president trum president trump, they mock him endlessly where you can t even find the humor it s just a point of view. in this situation, if not now, when? can we find out what happened, kent how he passed his background check and where we go from here? not just that but they don t talk educated with an educated view about guns, they don t know what an automatic or a semiautomatic guns is but they have these talking points about this issue. it comes to a point now where we have to start pushing back on this agenda. we need peace in this country and we need the second amendment
to protect ourselves but these guys don t care about it. many of these people, i know this is not pc but many of these people weren t born in this country, they don t know what we went through, they don t know what we went through as a nation. as a black man in america, it took the second amendment, we didn t just become free, it took the second amendment to fight off the oppression that was happening, it took white and black folks to fight against them. brian: everyone wants a solution, i m watching the vietnam series and johnny carson after a horrific day in vietnam, says were not going to do the tonight show tonight and i m going to toss it to my news division. in times of horror, maybe the responsible thing is to throw at 22020 and not keep it on jimmy kimmel.
i 100% agree with president trump and calling out the hypocrisy of fake news, presenting themselves as experts and people they should take seriously. you pointed out this monster who perpetrated these attacks passed the rigorous background checks. he passed background checks in multiple states. the it s not about that, it s about reconstituting our national fabric and saying we believe in virtue, we believe that character matters. if you talk about character, those late-night characters down in hollywood, they will make fun of you and say that you are wacko over a year religious nut job. how about we talk about that? what legislation if the liberal s could name one thing that we could have done to prevent this. i m all ears. 48% of the country says they own a gun in the home. brian: over the last eight
years, gun purchases have been up to 50%, overall gun violence is down significant labor it everyone wants a solution, nobody wants to tolerate this. i think people should stop blaming and we can at least get the facts out, great conversation, thanks so much. president trump visiting puerto rico, former campaign manager cory lewandowski joins us to analyze the president and the challenges he has had to face over the last seven months. rodney and his new business.
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cares. amid the ongoing attacks from democrats who have been charged the administration moving much slower to deal with the crisis in puerto rico to deal with the responses in texas, florida, louisiana. 90 and 95 residents of puerto rico are still without power, some struggling to find potable water he jokes that puerto rico s troubles had thrown the federal budget out of whack. the president quickly added that was fine because the government has saved lives, even talk of saving lies cause controversy, the president caused the death toll, now jumped over 30, not as bad as the over 800 death after katrina a comment he tried to clarify with an interview with geraldo rivera. president trump: if you look at one statistic, 16 deaths is a far too many debts, if you look at katrina in the
thousands, this is a storm the likes of which nobody has ever seen. we had fema before the storm even came, they were on the island and they were on the island during the first term, they got hit by two hurricanes. were very proud of the job we ve done. mr. president, enough, stop bleeding puerto rico for the store the that devastated their shores, i don t remember the president telling texas the budget was out of whack. i m not-so-subtle shot at san juan mayor carline cruz who the president shook hands with t they had a war of words over the weekend. as for the mayor s claims of a week a federal response, defense secretary james madison said there are now about 10,000 u.s. troops on the ground in puerto rico, an astonishing number.
brian: thanks for the recap, politics as usual even when it comes to hurricanes. karl rove was on with martha maccallum today where he didn t exactly have glowing reviews for president trump s trip to puerto rico. i don t think that he did anywhere near as well as he did yesterday when he was talking about las vegas, i thought his remarks on las vegas were extraordinary. he showed an unnecessary sensitivity to the criticism over the federal effort here. brian: cory lewandowski, karl rove was saying it was one of the best speeches that president trump ever gave a couple of days ago. is he right in saying he made some mistakes in puerto rico? the federal government and the trump administration have been all in in puerto rico just as they have been in texas when it s come to florida, the full weight of the government is there. they have set in the government has agreed whatever they need, the trump administration is going to provide.
this is a mainstream media, this is a liberal left agenda that they want to perpetuate that says the president isn t doing everything he can to help the people of puerto rico, that s just not true. he and melania trump where they are today to show and to demonstrate the full resolve of the u.s. government is supporting the of puerto rico. brian: the death toll climbed up to 34 today, he did have those meetings he does relate to people one-on-one. he wins people over who might be on the fence because of the sincerity he brings to the tabl table. he s got another challenge and is tomorrow. go out to las vegas a city he loves in a place that he knows and try to make sense of it. what advice would you have for the president if you were by his side tomorrow? the tragedy in las vegas is incomprehensible for any administration at what he has shown and what he has demonstrated, he s going to go there tomorrow, he s going to talk to the people, talk to the
loved ones who lost people in that terrible tragedy and make sure that the people on the ground some of the first responders are going to have all the resources that they need to make sure the federal government is acting in such a way that ensures this is not a lone gunman incident, all of the resources of the government will be there. this is very critical, the president has said whatever the resources are that are necessary to make sure that las vegas is a safe and secure, the federal government will be able to provide those. brian: bill clinton changed around his administration after oklahoma, heartfelt comments. george bush after a divided country thought he was an illegitimate president, got 90% approval rating after the way he handled 9/11 on top of that fire truck, does president trump have the same opportunity? he says, if you look at the tragedies of the country, this
terrible tragedy the president is a uniter, is not a divider, he s bringing people together. he s entering people that people from all political parties whether it s republican, democrat, independent have the resources that they need to be successful. that s what the president does best, that s what he s going to las vegas tomorrow. brian: cory lewandowski sticking around, we ll talk about that visit what s at stake, also update you on the unfolding investigation as his girlfriend comes back from the philippines, should be in america tomorrow. she s got a lot of explaining to do, don t go anywhere. huh! we gotta go. come on. grandma! grandpa!
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end of the statement en route to puerto rico has some worried that the president is going to get caught up with chuck and nancy when it comes to guns. let s bring in campaign manager corey lewandowski who knows the president as well as anyone. especially in unscripted situations like that. people on the right i think the president will be caught up in this and not take a quick look a look at gun laws. if they are worried, do they have a right to worry? brian, i know the president very, very well. i was a first responder. i was a police officer. i understand the terrible tragedy that has taken place in nevada, but look, this is not a reactionary thing. there is no law that would have been on the books that prevents insane people, crazy people from doing terrible, terrible things. we can make every law we want in the world, and that does not stop people from going out and doing crazy things. so, look, this person that we
understand, that we know of, purchased every firearm illegally, he had no criminal record. he is a 64-year-old individual who had no predisposition of committing a terrible tragedy. you can pass all the laws you want in the world, it is not going to make a difference paid when it comes to the issue of gun control, you cannot stop people who are mentally deranged from doing terrible things. brian: the fat that he brought that up, he is saying, i m not shutting off the left to be alt-right, because this ie together. we will look at if this is preventable, i think it is arrogant to say, i m not looking at that. that cannot be the case. it is a unifying statement, but i was shocked about how many conservative websites were saying, oh, my goodness, the president is abandoning the gun. there is no abandoning the gun. he has conceal and carry licenses in the state of new york. one of the hardest states in the country to do that. i m sure he does not carry a
weapon anymore, but he has a license because he went through the proper process. the differences it is very simple. when you legislate and you make laws for people who are following those laws, the criminals do not follow laws. to this individual actually had all of the guns legally, what we understand. so you can make all the laws you want, it does not stop a mentally deranged person from perpetuating and perpetrating a crime like this, an absolute disaster. brian: the president will be on the ground tomorrow in las vegas. he will see how bad it is and what this assassin was all about. corey lewandowski, thank you so much for the quality time. have a great night. meanwhile, i have to tell you that you can catch me tomorrow on fox & friends against geraldo herrera who did in an exclusive interview. we have more on that. also on my radio show on 9:00- 9:00-noon, the brian kilmeade show. and with my guests jorge

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when all in starts right now. good evening from new york. i m chris hayes. days after a senior republican senator referred to the white house as adult day care, the man that many believe is in charge of supervising the president, chief of staff john kelly, was sent out before the press to shoot down reports that the president s tantrums are causing big problems. the day began as it often does with a presidential outburst on twitter. this one aimed at the struggling people of puerto rico. who three weeks after hurricane maria are still suffering through an acute deadly crisis, many lacking access to safe water and food, and urgent medical care. we ll have the latest from the island coming up later this hour. today the president appeared to blame puerto rico for its current situation, threatening to cut off federal recovery efforts. i quote him here. electric and all infrastructure were disaster before hurricanes. congress to decide how much to spend. we cannot keep fema, the
military, and the first respond hoarse have been amazing under the most difficult circumstances in pr forever. an agency spokesperson tweeting, fema will be with puerto rico, u.s. virgin islands, every state and territory impacted by disaster every day, supporting throughout their response and recovery. asked about trump s tweets the chief of staff put a kinder, genter spin on the president s core message. does president trump believe that the people of puerto rico are american citizens? yes. who deserve the same access to federal aid as people who live in texas and florida? yes. what is his tweet about, then? which tweet? the tweet where he says we can t be in puerto rico forever. i think he said the u.s. military and fema can t be in there forever, right? he did, first responders first responders. this country, our country, will stand with those american citizens in puerto rico until the job is done. but the tweet about fema and d.o.d., read military, is exactly accurate. they re not going to be there
forever. and the whole point is to start to work yourself out of a job and transition to the rebuilding process. kelly went on to deny a series of reports suggesting his efforts to contain the president, as senator bob corker put it, are cut putting kelly s own job in jeopardy. according to the l.a. times he and the president have engaged in shouting matches. vanity fair reported kelly is miserable in his job, remaining out of a sense of duty to keep trump from making some sort of disastrous decision. none of that is true, kelly said. although i read it all the time, pretty consistently, i m not quitting today. i don t believe, and i just talked to the president, i don t think i m being fired today. and i am not so frustrated in this job that i m thinking of leaving. i will tell you this is the hardest job i ve ever had. this is, in my view, the most
important job i ever had. the chief of staff adopted the president s latest attacks on the press directed specifically at nbc news over a couple of damaging report in the last week, first that the secretary of state rex tillerson openly disparaged the president, referring to him as a moron. and then that the president wanted a ten-fold increase in the u.s. nuclear arsenal. the president reacted with what was even, for him, a fairly astonishing assault on the core concept of the first amendment. threatening to revoke the network s broadcast license, which doesn t exist by the way, and shut down unwelcome coverage. today his own chief of staff took his own swipe at the press. my only frustration, with all due respect to everyone in the room, is when i come to work in the morning and read about things i allegedly said or things that mr. trump allegedly said or people who are going to be fired or whatever. and it s just not true. it is astounding to me how much is misreport the.
i will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are operating off of contacts, leaks, whatever you call them. but i would just offer to you the advice, i d say you know, maybe develop some better sources. amid looming confrontations with north korea and iran and growing concerns about whether the president s aides can restrain him from lashing out, kelly insisted the president doesn t need babysitting. i was not sent in or i was not brought to this job to control anything but the flow of information to our president so that he could make the best decisions. i have found that mr. trump, from the day i met him, does not is a decisive guy, he s a very thoughtful man i should say. again, i was not sent in or brought in to control him. and you should not measure my effectiveness as a chief of staff by what you think i should be doing. political analyst who covers
the white house for usa today was at the briefing. what did you make of that today, heidi? we has had a brutal cycle, he being the president, and john kelly. if you remember, when kelly came in the headline was that all that s leaks were going to go away, he would instill discipline in this white house. yet you have all these stories coming out about shouting matches, about kelly possibly even leaving. and so just like they did when nbc s story came out about rex tillerson, immediately he s pushed out to talk to the press and to shoot it all down. and to deny it. and he can do that. he can deny it. because these sources are background. i will tell you, and you know this already, that there s no way we would get this reporting unless these sources were speaking on background. because they would be fired for talking like this. it doesn t make that information untrue. in fact, it s-highly unlikely that the information is untrue. and i guess it s good at least that kelly said, i give you the
benefit of the doubt that you have sources. instead of like his boss who just called it all fake. his boss, the president of the united states, the theory he says is it s entirely made up. he accuses of press of totally fabricating this when he s not threatening to shut them down or revoke the licenses of newspapers, which also don t exist. we should note here, kelly is also doing, it strikes me, a similar job to what sean spicer had today on the first had to do on the first day of the administration, to come out in the face of a set of circumstances people can see pretty clearly and essentially deny the evident right in front of their face. he did. but i would say at least he didn t go so far as to say outright untruths. and he was actually quite charming in his engagement with the press in terms of at least keeping a pleasant demeanor, not coming out there angry and scowling at us, calling us the disgusting media, and essentially threatening the
first amendment. he basically, you know, is i think trying to make a bridge to a certain extent with the media. it s interesting today that i was in this health care executive order announcement with the president and he actually turned around and thanked us all. which i guess is not usual. so i think there is a certain part of this that they re trying to immediately address some of these stories when they come out and put these people out in front of the media. but one of the things that kelly says, he called the president very thoughtful. it struck me that there s so many things you could say about the president, many adjectives. even if you wanted to praise the president there s lots of things you could say, canny, great political instincts, incredible way of capturing people s attention. he s not a very thoughtful person by basically the determination of every single person around him who s ever talked about him. that s an opinion. and he s welcome to his opinions. and i guess after having dealt with some of the previous individuals who have come out there and actually said outright
untruths, like verifiably untrue things that are not factual, at least he s not going you re going to say that s in the territory of a characterization, as opposed to just like it was the most-watched inauguration. -heidi, thank you for joining me. congresswoman maxine waters is a democrat from california. congresswoman, there s been a story that kelly is a sort of restraining force, that people should be happy that he s there if they re worried about the president s temperament or worried about the president s current condition, and that it s good to have him there. is that your opinion? my opinion is it won t last for long. this president will not get along with him for very long. this president has the kind of disposition that would cause him to confront, argue with, fight with, shout at, those people around him. and they re only going to take
it for so long. if you notice what kelly was saying, he was saying he was not fired today. he was not leaving today. and i don t know if he was qualifying that or not, but i think that was instructive. that even he knows it can t last very much longer. at some point, kelly said something about the views of democrats on security and what he called open borders. i wanted to play that for you and get your response to it because he was characterizing the immigration views of folks like yourself and members of your party, take a listen. all right. i believe that honest men and women can disagree on anything, politically or otherwise. the one thing i draw a little bit of a line to is on the security of the nation. there are certainly people in our country that have the opinion that open borders, near open borders are fine, people should be able to come and go. there are others, myself included, you can bet the
president, but i think the majority of americans feel as though security on the borders is important. do you think that s an open open borders is an accurate characterization of a large view of folks in washington, for instance, on immigration? absolutely not. if he s truly concerned about security he should be concerned about the way the president is goading with the north korea situation. he and kim jong-un are basically talking to each other in ways that corker has said could lead us into third world war. so if he s really concerned about security, he should be concerned about whether or not this president is going to continue the kind of talking and goading that he s doing that would cause this kim jong-un, who we consider to be unstable, to launch a very devastating missile into our country with perhaps a nuclear war ahead. there s reporting indicating
that the president, the decision which we re expecting forthcoming tomorrow in which he decertifies the iran bill, that was essentially born of a fit of pique, that the president was angry, he felt cornered, that the experts had come to him and told him, no, they re complying with the deal and he should certify it, the washington post reporting he threw a fit, he was furious, really furious, it s clear he felt jammed and that s why the white house security adviser, h.r. mcmaster and others, supported this plan to kick it to congress. what do you make of that? what are the consequences of making policy on something like this in this fashion? it s just unseemly that the president of the united states would be making policy on his own. he s been advised by everybody, republicans and democrats, that he should not be undoing the iran deal. we have other nations, six other nations, that are involved with us in this deal. and so for him to have america look as if it wants to undo the
deal, want to decertify them, he basically is saying he knows better than anybody. but of course during the campaign he said he knows more than the generals. he really believes that and it s dangerous. for members of congress to sit back and watch what he s doing and watch the damage that he s doing in this country and to watch him just guide us into a possible war, and not speak up because they re concerned about their re-election, is not responsible. i believe it is time for republicans especially to walk over to the white house and tell him enough is enough. as a matter of fact what do you mean by that i think he should be impeached. al green was going to introduce a resolution, i was going to ask you if you would vote for impeachment knowing what you know now mr. when you say republicans going over and saying enough is enough what do you mean by that tangibly? what i mean is republicans should step up to the plate and
confront the fact that this president appears to be unstable that he appears to be taking us into war, that he has openly obstructed justice in front of our face, and that increasingly we re finding that there s more and more lies about the connection with russia. i believe that there really has been collusion. and i do think that our special counsel mueller is going to connect those dots. but i think there s enough now that we all know and we all see and we all understand that we should be moving on impeachment. congresswoman maxine waters, always a pleasure. you re welcome, thank you. ben howe, writer for red state, conservative political blog, and lonny chen, what did you make of kelly s performance today? you know, i thought that it was a sincere performance. i think he did fine. i thought the most interesting thing about the exchange was, you know, this is a guy who has commanded large forces of soldiers. this is a guy who s been in war multiple times. he s been shot at no doubt.
and he said the hardest job he s ever had, the hardest job, is being the white house chief of staff. that to me is indicative, i think, of the challenges that face this presidency and this white house. and the fact that kelly s still in there i think is a testament to john kelly. ben, the sort of going after the press which has been a kind of constant theme, an exchange where senator ben sass of nebraska rapped the president for his decertification, delicensing. do you think there s broad conservative revulsion at that? or do they generally feel, yeah, these people are our enemies? it s been interesting to watch, actually. i think a lot of conservatives in previous administrations, if a president was going to go after the press, one of the first things after their license specifically, i think they would have said, why is the government involved in licensing media anyway? they d talk free markets and things like that. that s what i would have done. but instead they seem to play by what a lot of them call the new
rules. which is the liberals made the rules, now we re going to play by them. so even though it might conflict with what should be their conservative point of view, they re going to end up taking the position, yeah let s take their license away, we re just following their new rules anyway. there is a great story, lonny that to me epitomized part of the problem that s at the core of this presidency, particularly domestic politics. the president s trying to get this tax proposal done, he s been sort of working on that while this sort of awful news cycle has swirled hem with corker comments. this is what bloomberg reported. months after the white house proposed ending a tax break for people in the high-tax states president trump grew angry when he learned the change would hurt some middle-income taxpayers. he keeps finding out what the actual substantive agenda is and keeps getting angry about it. what do you make of that? tax reform is complicated and it turns out health care is complicate toot. all of these issues have multiple dimensions. there s a reason why we haven t done a big tax reform since 1986.
and it s going to be challenging in any situation. when the white house has had to answer this question about the impact of their tax plan on middle income taxpayers, they ve had to say, we can t guarantee that every middle income taxpayer is going to get a tax cut, we can t guarantee there won t be a single middle income taxpayer that won t see a tax increase. that s the reality. these are really tough issues and as they dig into it they re finding out how difficult that could be. trump is a terrible president who nonetheless has sounder political instincts tan anyone in the gop leadership, responding to the story from bloomberg. trump who has in some ways political instincts about this stuff that i think is sounder than, say, paul ryan s. you ve still got the ryan agenda and they cannot make the whole thing work. i think he s got great salesman instincts. and being a good salesman works well with the american people if you go past the media, go straight to twitter, things like that. i really think this whole administration would do a lot better if the people like kelly
wouldn t come out and try to translate for him and make it seem as though he s just this reasonable guy and has all these reasonable positions, when we ve all got eyes, we can see how he is. and you know, if they would just be a little more honest, when they say he s a straight talker, he as straight talker, so embrace that and say, i wouldn t have said it but i m not the president. i would say he s a weird mix of a sort of shockingly honest in some moments and incredibly, incredibly in your face deceptive in others. there s sort of all mixed together. i think some people call that diarrhea of the mouth, yeah. lonny, do you think the kelly is clearly out there because of the corker comments and because of the reporting about the background and because of tillerson, et cetera. i mean, do you think republicans are behind closed doors saying, where s this guy going? and concerned about that? well, i think republicans feel like there are a number of folks in the administration who
are playing very important roles. i think rex tillerson s one of them, jim mattis is another, certainly john kelly. the question becomes if those individuals end up leaving the administration for some reason, then what? i think there is certainly concern about the future of those individuals because i think a lot of folks feel like they re the people who are there promoting in some ways i guess more traditional conservative viewpoints on a lot of these issues. without them the question is, what comes next? there s more uncertainty ask, that worries people. ben howe and lonny chen, thank you both. tonight, fed up with congress, the president signs an executive order as part of a continued and sustained effort to dismantle obamacare. what his latest effort actually accomplishes in two minutes. when you have a cold stuff happens. shut down cold symptoms fast with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels.
sign the order, he forgot. we will have great health care in our country. thank you all very much. appreciate it, thank you. thank you very much, thank you. thank you everybody. oh! the most important thing. after that momentary lapse, the president did get around to signing the order which allows skimpier plans in some circumstances and could erode health care exchanges by drawing away healthier enrollees. the new order only part what was has been a brought campaign against the aca with congress repeatedly trying and failing to pass repeal and replace legislation, the administration has worked to chip away at the law including gutting the
advertisement budget for enrollment, slashing outreach funds to help people enroll, shutting down the obamacare sign-up site for 12 hours and almost every sunday of open enrollment, and cutting that open enrollment period. tweeting extensive how the executive order is another sabotage in the campaign, andy slavitt, good to have you here. great to be here. you know this inside and out. let s start with what do you mean i love the term synthetic repeal, what s that mean? look, the republican party and trump ran seven years of raising nine figures of money on a promise that they would simply repeal and replace the aca. so going back as we go into 2018, an election year, oh, we can t do it, it s not a possibility. so i think left to his own devices, they re coming up with everything they can do to say, forget john mccain, he s a rhino, we re going to be able to
do everything that we promised to do through this executive order and by cutting some medicaid through the tax bill. so i guess what does that mean for people? so the executive order today combined with what they ve been doing. what does that mean for the landscape of health care? think about the major pieces of repeal. one of them was that they were going to remove the federal protections against pre-existing conditions. according to the american academy of actuaries who looked at the executive order as it came out today, that s exactly what this does. the other thing they re going removes protections for pre-existing conditions? it does it by essentially creating a second plan as you described to your viewers earlier. and that plan sitting alongside the aca essentially, with no rules, no regulations, is basically designed to allow young, healthy people this is great for 28-year-old males, can find cheaper policies as long as they don t get sick. but for everybody else brings their costs up. if you have a pre-existing condition that not only brings
your costs up but according to the actuaries they think many insurers will leave entirely and there may not be the availability of coverage. i saw a wide variety of health care groups today across spectrums and interests coming out against this. there s a question how long this will take and if they ll actually do it. they ve had a record of issuing executive orders. dave day has tracked this, they issue an executive order then no one does anything on it, it sits there. that s a really great point. if this scratches the president s itch to have done something, and then these orders go to treasury and to human services and labor and they take their time and put out some regs and water them down there here, we could actually and let the country move on to other issues, that would be a good thing. i think what people are fearful of, if you listened to his press conference, he said this is the beginning of a dismantling of the aca. i think we re going to have to
figure out whether he means it or whether this is his rhetoric. the theme is the aca tried to create this marketplace where you had healthy people and sick people and old people and young people, everyone pooling the risk together, smooth out the risk, you can charge premiums that are acceptable, subsidized by the golf. the theme it seems of everything they ve done on this legislation at the executive level is hiving off healthy people, stopping the outreach to get them in giving them other options. right. i think that s a function of it not being the aca. i don t think that s his political philosophy. there s no political philosophy. conservative think tank in 1993 battling hillarycare, they said let s create one risk pool, that would be the best idea possible. you ve got essentially a man who feels he needs to deliver something for his donors. there s this fundamental conceptual promiscuousness where cassidy-graham, three weeks ago, which would be 50 different state regimes, the opposite of take the lines off around the
states, there s no unifying principle here. i think if you give graham another few months, he s so good at the sunday shows, he might have come up with a unifying sounding theme. the problem is in reality when they say we re going to give states more authority, you look at what happened. oklahoma, minnesota. they submitted waivers to the trump administration. think didn t get them approved. they didn t even get answers. like they literally wrote to them and said, what s up? and got nothing. it s only federalism, you know. that s really what we re dealing with. an day slavitt, thanks for joining me. as desperation mounts on the numbers of americans dying on the island continues to rise, why on earth did the president of the united states threaten to pull federal emergency response out of puerto rico?
three weeks after hurricane maria the government puts the official 91 of people dead at 49. but two democratic members of congress want a federal audit on that number citing recent reports suggesting the death toll is much higher than is being officially acknowledged. while hundreds of people remain unaccounted for, the president implied that he is already ready to abandon the federal recovery effort saying in a statement released on twitter, we cannot keep team mafema and military responders in pr forever. white house chief of staff explained the comment was exactly accurate, fema and the u.s. military continue be in puerto rico doing disaster recovery for literal forever. that seems to miss the point. the president suged this 22 days after the storm made landfall in puerto rico. fema was present in new orleans for six years after hurricane katrina.
if the president pull s recover effort on 3.5 million american citizens, 85% of the island without power, 40% without clean drinking water. a cbs reporter captured images of cars lining up to get freshwater from a pvc pipe that tapped into a hillside stream. here s a picture of a fema flyer instructing an area without internet or cell phone coverage to call or register online for disaster assistance. the journalist who snapped that picture joins me next. oh my gosh! how are you? well watch this. i pop that in there. press brew. that s it. look how much coffee s in here? fresh coffee. so rich. i love it. that s why you should be a keurig man! full-bodied. are you sure you re describing the coffee and not me? do you wear this every day? everyday. i d never take it off. are you ready to say goodbye to it? go! go! ta da! a terrarium. that s it. we brewed the love, right guys? (all) yes.
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we re currently in yasco, puerto rico. we have an urgent message to get out about what s really going on here in western puerto rico. right now we re only giving out to the people in the mountains one small meal and six bottles of water per family. that is all they re getting. that was former army cavalry scout jason maddie on the ground in a town of about 30,000. molly crabapple just got back from puerto rico and joins me now. i know your dad s from the island, you have friends there. you got outside san juan, where were you? i was in barrio mariana, a small village, the first place on the island that the hurricane hit. and what was how much federal presence did you see there in terms of military or fema or federal officials? i personally saw zero
presence. when i was there, the only aid that people in mariana had received was a municipal truck that gave people two small bottles of water, a pack of tropical-flavored skittles, a newt ra grain bar, and a pack of virginia sausages. i do know the military and the fbi came about three weeks after the hurricane and they did distribute mres and water. but that was pretty much it. in terms of how people are living their lives there, i m assuming there was no electricity. none. and how were people how are people getting the bakes? which is water, electricity, food? some people had generators. but if you have a generator, your life becomes an endless wait on six-hour lines for diesel. to get water, you either waited fare hours and hours at costco using your scarce reserves of gasoline, or you went to a creek on the side of the mountain and collected it in a jug. so people were just getting rainwater off a creek?
or springwater off a creek, that s what i did. i brought a filter, we d purify it. this is very dangerous because disease is spreading on the island because there were all of these animal corpses that were left to rot. it s getting into the water. so it sounds like a nonfunctional situation. so it s like sounds like what s happening is people s days are taken up with the basics of survival. there s nothing no one s going to work or doing the things that you would normally do. exactly. communication is so bad that even pharmaceutical companies, which are the biggest industries, are calling into the one radio station to tell their workers whether or not to come to work. most people don t have the ability to get to their jobs. their credit cards don t work. their ebt cards don t work. huge lines to access the atm. $200 maximum. that cash will run out. so it s the struggle for survival. but the thing about puerto
ricons is that this is a very, very close-knit culture, a culture of family, friends, barrios, neighborhoods. and so people are taking care of each other. it s not the federal government that s taking care of people. it s not fema. it s people taking care of each other. in barrio mariana, the couple that i stayed with, christine and luis rodriguez sanchez, set up a community kitchen that s feeding hundreds of people. these community kitchens are happening all over the island. as people give up on help from fema and decide to take caring for themselves and their neighbors into their own hands. how aware will people of this sort of the president s comments, the president s perspective towards puerto rico, what would the feelings about the federal government and its involvement? one older woman i spoke to said, oh, trump came into the richest town in puerto rico and threw toilet paper at people s heads, he s trying to humiliate us. in general it s viewed as an
extension of the same racist, colonialist, stereotypical thinking that america has had for puerto rico since it poll noised it in 1898. do you think do folks have hope that things are going to change in the short-term? or this sense that this adjustments we ve made to eke out survival, which is food, water, electricity, diesel, that that is going to be the status quo for a while? some people have accepted that that will be the status quo for a while and are trying to build on it. with these community efforts. other people are sort of hanging on. one woman that i met, her mother who has alzheimer s and dementia and can t speak, she was kicked out of her nursing home because there was no electricity. doesn t have access to medicine. she s trying to keep her mother alive in this crushing heat with no access to clean water. someone like that needs help as soon as possible. they can t just adjustment. molly crab apple, thank you for your reporting, thank you for joining us. why a senior facebook
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thing 1 tonight, senator lindsey graham gave a 33-minute interview to golf magazine to defend his claim that during a round of golf on monday, president trump shot a 73 in windy and wet conditions. that contention raised plenty of eyebrows because it would mean the 71-year-old president would rank among the best senior golfers in the entire world. for some context, consider hall of fame golfer hale irwin, who turned 72 in june, has a scoring average of just over 73 in the seven champions tour events he s played this year. but in the course of attempting to justify his claim, the president shot a 73, president graham perhaps inadvertently gave away trump s secret for success on the course he cheats. that s 92 in 60 seconds.
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in defending his implausible claim president trump shot a 73 on the golf course monday, senator lindsey graham admitted to golf magazine the president likes to take gimme putts instead of finishing out the hole. we know what the president considers a gimme and it is generous. sports writer rick riley told the washington post trump once called a gimme on what should have been a chip shot adding, when it comes to cheating he s an 11 on a detail 1 to 10. the president seen here driving his golf cart onto the green is a notorious cheater on the course and there are plenty of stories illustrating how he does it. reportedly sometimes respond to a shot he duffed by playing a second ball and carrying on as if the first shot never happened. tmz reporting after trump shanked his shoot out of bounds he drove down the course, turned his golf cart to block him as he tu
took a ball out of his pocket rolled the bat into the roof. he s been called a cheater by alex cooper, samuel jackson, and de la hoya, who said trump hit a ball into the bushes then dropped another one three feet from the hole like it was there the whole time. the president denies all this of course. he forced former ceo jeff immedical to tell a very different story. jeff actually watched me make a hole in one, can you believe that? should you tell that story? actually said i was the best golfer of all the rich people. to be exact. and then i got ahold of him. y. .you might be missing something. .your eyes. that s why there s ocuvite. it helps replenish nutrients your eyes can lose as you age. nourish your eyes to help keep them healthy. ocuvite. be good to your eyes.
particular russian troll farm. and reporting indicates the ads were targeted to certain groups, often focusing on hot-button issues like gun rights or border security. if you look carefully there s a clue. why do i have a gun? because it s easier for my family to get me out of jail than the cemetery. the spelling often a mistake by russians speaking english. with 3,000 ads reportedly reaching 10 million people in the run-up to the presidential election, chief operating officer sheryl sandberg went to meet with the house intelligence committee to address concerns about these ads and how they were used. the house intelligence committee plans to release the 3,000 ads to the public after the tech companies facebook, twitter testify before congress. it s particular facebook has created a system it s struggling to control.
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she apologized and the benign platform defense. we re a platform where people express themselves every day and keep our platform as free of abuse as possible. we re a new kind of platform. in our heart, we re a tech company. we don t hire reporters, no one s a journalist. we don t cover the news. but when we say that, we re not saying we don t have a responsibility. in fact, we re a new kind of platform with our size we think we have more responsibility. co-editor of a platform in some ways and senior editor of new york magazine. they are joining me now. it s like, what are you? what are you? what is facebook? it s a platform, sure. it s also a community about 2 billion people, it s also a publisher, an advertising company and also the most advanced surveillance system on the planet and it s all of these things at once and some of these
things have very mutually exclusive incentives and responsibilities. it strikes me that one of the things max said there is key. it s an advertising platform. the way that they make money is through surveillance and advertising, which is they figure out who you are and then they sell ads to target you and whatever they re going to do is they are not going to want to do anything that cuts into that. bingo. more than anything, facebook monetizes your attention in mind, the users. there was a time on the internet when we didn t have to go to these walled gardens to connect with our friends when we had websites that were sort of more independent. we all know that half of americans are so get their news through facebook. what people don t know is that news publishers, in order to get the news to you, to get their campaign to you typically have to pay facebook and when we talk about ads in this context, which sheryl sandberg mentioned, even
as she brought up a red herring with twitter s handling of marsha blackburn s campaign ad, she mentioned that in this interview, she talked about how twitter made a bad call in banning a political ad. and then she said blackburn and everybody else, essentially everyone knows that in order to reach your audience on facebook, you have to pay. my site boingboing.net, you have to pay. here s the thing. sandberg said in that interview that it was traceable, the russians spyops campaign during the last election, so that was paid ads as well and they were paid for in rubles. so show me the receipts. if their in rubles, it shouldn t be that hard to track down and why not have facebook return that money, like everybody s
saying that hillary clinton ought to do with weinstein s money and everybody talking about the donations that harvey weinstein made and that the political beneficiaries of those donations should return it. i say facebook ought to return that because facebook is profiting off of this and they knew it when it was happening. did they know it when it was happening? that s the question, right? i think a lot about the parallel because i ve spent a lot of time covering the financial crisis. a big question about the financial crisis is, were they done or be a borrow richist? was it huber rift or aborist. and with facebook, do they not know or not care or want to make a lot of money? i think it s both. they are so big and so widespread and so automated that they can t look at all of it all the time. buying an ad on facebook is like getting a candy bar from a vending machine. you don t have to talk to somebody for it and it s been great for small groups that need
it but it s also great for russians who might want to buy ads on facebook and not have anybody know that they are russian. do you think that the platform at the current size can continue in this way with the changes that someone like sandberg promises? xeni? absolutely not. what we re seeing right now is sheryl sandberg on the most earnest crime offensive crisis p.r. tour of all time. i think they both know that what they are staring at is the possibility of government regulations and they d very much like to avoid that. as i heard yesterday earlier today on msnbc, this is not about relitigating the 2016 elections alone, although the result of that election is something that feels very unstable and very scary to a lot of us adults. right. but this is also about moving ahead. so if facebook, as i believe they did, was essentially
identified by russian intelligence as having some big, gaping security holes that could be exploited by russia for their own purposes, that has to be addressed in a much bigger way than just this sort of super well rehearsed pr event that happened today. it s not like questions were even rehearsed and i didn t hear an answer. i didn t hear real answers about, for instance, she was asked by axios, is it possible that the russian ad buy targeting and trump campaign overlapped? she didn t refer to it in government seeing it in due time. it seemed so disingenuous so not genuine and like a real insult to a lot of americans who have trust in facebook as a platform that doesn t profit off of pushing misinformation at us. and that s the thing. this is not about free speech.
they are not a nonprofit and this is about are you free to profit and are you something that harms america when you know it s harming america. is it the silicon they like the free speech argument and it s something that we all intuitively understand and support and facebook is not a government. it might sort of seem like a state or a government but free speech works in the united states because we have a very lengthy history body of law and judicial warnings and ways to hold the government accountable and to fight back and to appeal rulings and facebook is a giant black box with a few people at the very top and their ideas about what should be allowed and what shouldn t be is somewhere in there and sort of filtered out into moderator contracts

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