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Discussing today which involved an irregular channel which is her request that went against u. S. Policy that would undermine the rule of law and our longstanding policy goals in ukraine as in other countries in the postsoviet space. Policies that were indeed championed by ambassador yovanovitch. You also testified in the deposition about fundamental reforms necessary for ukraine to fight corruption and to transform the country and you cited the importance of reforming certain institutions, notably security service. Was investigating President Trumps political opponents a part of those necessa...

Okay. >> it did say i understood. right. but but but mitch is just that he's defending democracy. it keeping democracy free and keeping it alive in america, there's a quitter pi paul that just, there's just out. let's shows in the state of georgia that the georgians trust donald trump to preserve democracy more than they trust joe biden. if the democrats are going to run on abortion to democracy, that's their big underpinning. gotta, you gotta vote. joe biden because the boogie man, donald trump's can still democracy from yeah, well, the voters are buying it at least in the state of georgia. s...

And we were asking one simple question as a general matter. where is the evidence? speaker: what response did you get? pat cipollone: a variety of responses like, what do you mean where's the evidence? you should know-- speaker: there was discussion of, well, we don't have it now, but we will have it or whatever. eric herschmann: derek and i both challenged what she was saying, and she says, well, the judges are corrupt. and i was like, everyone? every single case that you've done in the country you guys lost. every one of them is corrupt? even the ones we appointed? and-- speaker: what's-- er...

Eric, derek, and we were pushing back, and we were asking one simple question as a general matter. where is the evidence? speaker: what response did you get? pat cipollone: a variety of responses like, what do you mean where's the evidence? you should know-- speaker: there was discussion of, well, we don't have it now, but we will have it or whatever. eric herschmann: derek and i both challenged what she was saying, and she says, well, the judges are corrupt. and i was like, everyone? every single case that you've done in the country you guys lost. every one of them is corrupt? even the ones w...

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