It was part of an effort to target main line catholic parishes and they wanted to mitigate the threat of radical traditionallist catholics. congressman what is a radical traditionallist catholic? you could probably translate that into someone committed to the pro life position. as outrageous as dangerous. utter disregard for our most fundamental constitutional freedoms. we know it s not conjecture, we have the documents to show just as you said that fbi officials wanted to develop sources among catholic clergy and church leadership to inform on americans practicing their faith. they wanted to recruit under cover agents to be on the pews to monitor and report on parishioners. it s incredible. bill: and when it came to light last month, the fbi director christopher wray was initially confronted. we took steps immediately to
Admiral kirby, he s got xi s phone number but he s not calling. yeah, they didn t even do that when the balloon went overhead, amazing to me, quite amazing. sandra: general kellogg, appreciate your time. bill: sandra, another big story, house judiciary committee chairman jim jordan issuing subpoenas to christopher ray, they may have targeted catholics for early warning signs of radicalization. david spunt joins us from the justice department. what was in the documents? fbi memo that came from the fbi richmond field office. not a nationwide memo, we were told this memo has been deleted, it s out of all fbi systems and history, fbi director ray is getting questioned, especially that he s subpoenaed, giving the
and we took steps immediately to withdraw it and remove it from fbi systems. it does not reflect fbi standards. we do not conduct investigations based on religious affiliation or practices full stop. ok, so this morning senate majority leader schumer called out former president donald trump and his calls for congress to defund the fbi. senator marco rubio responded, he said he wants schumer to include that the fbi try to infiltrate catholic churches. clearly an issue here on capitol hill and beyond and fbi spokesperson confirms they received the subpoena for fbi director wray and are working to get the committee the required documents. bill. bill: david spunt live at the justice department, thank you. sandra: there is definitely big interest in this country to get to the bottom of whether or not catholic churches were