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Are a man. >> that's right. >> are you not a teenager, that brain is more developed significantly. do you see significance of the fact that he was in med school and 25 at the time? >> it matters. frankly, if he was an undergrad, it would matter, if he was 25, 30, he was an adult, a grown man. other yearbook photos have come out from his undergrad days at the virginia institute where one of his nicknames was coonman, in medical school under a blackface or a hood. it makes one wonder whether this was a pattern of behavior or not. the fact that he was in medical school, 25. a study came out 2015,...

My conversation with randall elison, it seems to me, it's headed to an ugly report, how could it not be? but it doesn't directly address the president or people close to him for collusion or maybe even obstruction. remember that alan dershowitz argument which says he had a right to fire comey. let me say one more thing, i want to get this off my chest and don't lose fact that it's rod rosenstein who wrote the memo on the firing of comey. how can it be obstruction of justice when rod rosenstein gave him the paperwork-to-do it. please go to my website customer conish.com. should virginia governo...

Those calls could be a smoking gun proving trump, himself, knew the meeting about it as it was happening. then on friday the "new york times" quoted trump as saying rod rosenstein has assured his lawyers the president is not the focus or target of the investigation. you put that all together, it might suggest mueller will write a report highly critical of those in trump's orbit but will not reach the president, himself, too date, mueller charged six associates, 34 overall with three companies. these cases are on two zijt tracks the russian defendants who stand aused of one crime and americans ...

Assuming the press found out about it that he had just given spectacular grand jury testimony. and people said it was the best grand jury testimony they had ever heard. >> as we say in court, i feel you on that. the flip side is that that was supposed to be the case with the clinton-starr system when it was finally arranged. it was videotaped to stay private but through ken starr's maneuveri maneuverings, it did go public. randall, one more legal thing and then we'll widen it out to our panel. rachel brand got a lot of attention for leaving the doj, she would have been next to replace mueller....

Likelihood, the percentage that donald trump does sit for the interview. >> i don't think he'll sit for a voluntary interview, i think there's no chance of that. >> no chance, randall? >> i think it's really unlikely at this point. >> which is fascinating because you guys have been close to the action, given how much volume on the idea that the interview would be happening. thanks to each of you. later in the hour, i'll be joined by another legal eagle. the former acting solicitor general, he wrote the rules governing the special counsel. and then to something so important, these students su...