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I'm sorry, not? >> i've -- you know, had a great relationship working -- he was governor for two years with the trump administration. >> i've, i've a, i've a -- i'm joined now by cnn politics reporter chris cillizza. he did not want to touch that one at all, chris. >> not with a ten-foot pole, brianna. and the reason is because he knows that mike pence is right that there's no rule in the constitution that suggests the vice president of the united states can somehow overturn the election, but ron desantis is very aggressively and actively looking at running for president if and when he wins re...

[ laughter ] you know, i've had a great relationship working. actually, governor for two years with the trump administration. >> really that tough? he didn't see the tweet. the classic avoidance. not wanting to get pulled into this. to reflect quickly, pence is correct that he didn't have the authority to do this. pence is wrong to say he had the authority to do this. desantis is choosing not to answer between correct and continue correct. >> come. on. >> you want to say something. >> yeah. >> co-run for president. >> which one? >> desantis. >> they can all run for president. >> he could be. t...

The confines of the van >> gaslighting, you said? . >> yeah, i did. it is far easier when an individual is with another individual and has nobody else to bounce anything off of. in other words, you know, they have only their own mind to work with. they cannot ask somebody else, does this make sense to you? so they're really stuck with deciding on their own, is this relationship working and am i hearing the truth from my partner here? >> it's really interesting point. john duffy, thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. ahead, a doctor says a patient's family member threatened to shoot her...

Economy in germany. macron has a four year term. he's got great strength at home and trying to reform france's economy and play off of his ability to deal with donald trump in a way that merkle cannot. with so much at stake, how important is today's meeting between donald trump and emmanuel macron? >> it's absolutely critical. early on we weren't sure how donald trump would view other european leaders. it seems like he didn't connect on merkle's first visit to washington. he hasn't had that connection with teresa may. macron is the one guy that seemed to have broken through. they speak frequen...

Not only does it address issues to street encounters but provides security to police officers who are accused of false complaints. it's a win-win for everyone. i think the reality of the situation is that we would not be having this discussion regarding the garner decision in the absence of the body camera that demonstrated that in fact perhaps it was a use of force in that case. this is why this morning my legal team went to court to try to get the grand jury minutes unsealed and that case as you know until january 29th. >> that's important work as a new yorker. we all depend so much on the b...