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Now, to new headlines in the impeachment showdown. and more questions for president trump s personal attorney, rudy giuliani. tonight, two new reports claim giuliani was negotiating potential personal business deals with ukrainian officials worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, at the same time he was pushing ukraine to investigate the president s political rivals. the president just 24 hours ago appearing to distance himself from giuliani. here s abc s mary bruce. reporter: as rudy giuliani pushed president trump s political agenda in ukraine, he was also reportedly pursuing lucrative business deals for himself with the ukrainian government. tonight, the new york times reporting giuliani signed a proposal to be paid $300,000 by the ukrainian ministry of justice, supposedly to find stolen money. the deal never went through, but it raises questions about a conflict of interest. several impeachment witnesses have testified america s ukraine policy went through the president s perso ....
you know, i ve watched a lot of clips for giuliani for videos we ve done at the wall street journal, and he has a slightly different story every time. he s maintained this effort started last november. in some cases he said ukrainians dropped some information in his lap, in other cases he said some americans brought it to his attention. things really started picking up in january and february where he actually sat down and met with these ukrainians to talk about the biden investigation and the investigation in 2016. you heard say he s doing this to come up with an alternative explanation to defend my client. that s a little strange because president trump was ultimately cleared by robert mueller. they didn t find any evidence of collusion with russia. so what rudy giuliani was doing with respect to ukraine and this debunked theory ukraine was interfering in the election didn t make a lot of sense. giuliani for his part he said he had insurance should the president throw him under ....
Bus. have you talked with the president in the last week or two? i do not discuss my conversations with my client. you can assume i talked to him early and often and have a very, very good relationship with him. and all of these comments which are totally insulting i mean i ve seen things written like he s going to throw me under the bus. when i say that i say he isn t, but i have insurance. now reuters is reporting giuliani s lawyer made him call the president to emphasize he was not serious. his attorney told reuters you shouldn t joke, he s not a funny guy. what do you make of what giuliani was saying there and this explanation now? i think his lawyer is giving him some good advice. when you say you have insurance against somebody you re representing that is the target of this impeachment, it sounds like a threat exactly, if you come forward i m going to release all this dirt i have on you, which is never a position that an attorney should be in talking about their clien ....
To put someday light between himself and giuliani with fox news host bill o reilly. what was rudy giuliani doing in ukraine on your behalf? well, you d have to ask that to rudy. i know he was going to go to ukraine and i think he canceled a trip, but rudy has other clients other than me. you didn t direct him to go there on your behalf? no. but you have to understand rudy is a great corruption fighter. giuliani is your personal lawyer. so you didn t direct him to go to ukraine or anything? rudy s a warrior. rudy went. he possibly saw you have to understand. rudy has other people he represents. while the president now claims giuliani was acting on his own in that july 25th phone call with the ukrainian president, president trump explicitly stated this. quote, rudy very much knows what s happening and he s a ....