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Chris Jansing Reports

their families. listen to what one mother told me about her experience this morning. >> what was it like getting that phone call? >> actually, it was a text message this morning from my daughter, and it was absolutely horrifying. one of the worst moments of my entire life, but the best phone call i got was saying they were okay. >>. did you ever think it would happen in a place like perry? >> not one bit. i moved here seven years ago and i never thought perry would have an incident like this. >> isn't that the consistent thread we always hear. you've covered so many of these mass shootings, so have i. you always hear the parents, students, everyone say they never thought it could happen here. here we are, just a few days into the new year at the very start of the school year right after coming back from christmas break, this community just the latest in a string of trying to put things back together now. >> rob, we know that the atf and fbi are on the ground. we know this is a very active and fresh investigation.

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Chris Jansing Reports

Chris Jansing Reports
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Ana Cabrera Reports

but students left deeply shaken. >> honestly, it makes me feel a little bit sick because this is a situation we shouldn't have to be worrying about. >> reporter: and those who knew the suspect, stunned. >> i would have never guessed that he would be the kind of person who could possibly be capable of this kind of thing. >> reporter: the community waking up to a string of lingering questions this morning, including how and why this happened. local law enforcement getting an assist from the fbi's office in charlotte. that investigate, though, could take weeks. back to you. >> ali vitali, thank you. let's bring in retired fbi agent rob d'amico. thank you for being with us. we don't yet know the relationship of the suspect to the victim, if any. what would you be looking for here to learn about potential motive and how important will it be to find the gun? >> i think the biggest thing here now you'll start looking at record -- school records, was this person a professor of his,

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Ana Cabrera Reports

surprised by this anymore. kids' attitudes about it back in the day they flipped out. now they're almost living with that, what do i do type of thing, but when it happens close to home, two kids up there, i have my blue button shirt on, my coffee mug here, it hits home. i knew right away my kids were safe and not on campus that day. but then i started tracking it and they were sending me texts from their friends who were holed up in bathrooms. unfortunately it is becoming more expected. but one thing that comes with it then, kids are understanding how to react. i used to tell my kids when they were in middle school, don't go out the door, break the window, go out the window, you're on the first floor, because i knew that it is one of those things that are coming up now that that's really unbelievable. >> all right, rob d'amico, thank you for your time. next, new video captures a rescue helicopter spinning

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Katy Tur Reports

being led out of your classrooms, hands up, we have seen as well. trying to get there to safety. we also saw some pretty traumatic footage of kids leaving their classrooms, rather, and literally running. you can about imagine what any of these kids are feeling right now. julia stay with me, i'm going to bring into the conversation, rob d'amico, former fbi official. let's talk as i welcome you, rob, to this breaking news coverage. tell me what is going on from an fbi perspective, or if you want to drill down into that which the university of north carolina police are doing, how do they begin when you're talking about over 700 acres of property to try to comb through for this one person that we see to the right of the screen? >> it's a difficult situation. i actually have two children, one works at the university, and one is a student. so i started getting texts from my oldest about that.

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Katy Tur Reports

there who can check when somebody comes through. metal detectors on a campus is not really practical. you may have them in individual buildings like the administrative heads building. you could have them in, for instance, a library, but you're not going to see them in standard classroo and dormitories. >> katherine and rob, stay with me, apparently we have students talking on the ground about their experience this afternoon. let's take a listen. >> and see when they can take us. >> thank you. are you from here? >> no, i'm from chicago, actually, but i'm here for school. >> yeah, you can imagine that student being a little bit shocked. coming into a campus. we don't know if that student a freshman, having spent one week on the campus are a bit more seasoned to the unc campus. there is got to be a lot of shock right now, and it's going

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Katy Tur Reports

he might, he might have a designated spot. he might be in grad school parking. he might be in school of engineering or wherever he is, and that helps narrow things down. of course what's called a bolo, be on the lookout will go out statewide, perhaps regionally for this vehicle. so officers who encounter the vehicle on the street will know what they're dealing with. >> rob, let me ask you since you know the area, and again you have two children who are affiliated with the campus. fortunately not there on campus today. they both have reached you. they're safe and secure, but we're getting word that the entire public school system of chapel hill has been put on lockdown right now, and i want to add it is the first day of classes, here we are. another day, another school shooting. fortunately, in this case, on the unc campus at this point, we have no reports of a shot fired, and nobody having been injured.

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Katy Tur Reports

and, again, a university this big, you have this shooting, you respond to it, and then you start getting information and you start getting a suspect, but then trying to figure out where they're going to. i know they've stopped a couple of people based on the description, and they're trying to drill down and see if he's still on campus, and then you have to determine where the safe spots are. you see the students coming out. are you moving them to a place that's safer or are you trying to determine did he go into a building that you now have to clear. that gets very complicated, and then understanding like how far he could have gotten if he had a car, if he had access, going to start trying to review some cameras arounds area to see if they can determine that. federal officials are going in trying to help, you're going to need manpower. i'm sure the fbi and other federal agencies are pushing people to the campus police and city police to help them start clearing areas out. >> rob, before we go any further

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Katy Tur Reports

with the campus, unfortunately not there this afternoon right now. that this all happened near a laboratory building. so, rob, back to you, when you think about somebody, a graduate student, potentially this happens near a laboratory building that would indicate a science graduate student, potentially maybe engineering, is that how they're able to narrow this down, and look and see that the likelihood this person had some affiliation with where the first shot was reportedly fired? >> there's always going to be something that draws that person to that location. and if he's going to that lab more, it may have been well known. he may have encountered someone that knew him. that something happened, that's how they -- that's how they quickly got that. and then there's cameras around the university that they can start looking at, so there was something that pointed them to

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Katy Tur Reports

julia ainsley observed there are no ambulances on the campus, though a heavy police presence. talk about sort of the ripple effect, rob, for something like this, not only from just a community point of view but with regard to the fbi, i mean, you're going to have to start focusing on a number of different issues, right, as you look for this suspect. >> well, the priority right now is to find them, so motivation and all of those things will come. but right now is locating them and securing them. so what they're looking at now is they probably know two things, they know a phone number, most likely, and they know if he has a car, what that car is and a license plate. those are important. they're going to start using cellular technology to look at the phone. they have gone up to request an emergency warrant to start tracking the cell phone. they do it by towers and location and something like this. they're phenomenal, they have gotten really good at that. that's what's going on.

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