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Former press secretary for president obama. spencer ackerman, u.s. security editor for the "guardian," and mr. sanchez, fellow at the cato institute. robert, i wanted to begin with you. one of the fascinating things to me about the press conference was the certainty president obama had that these were necessary programs, and you think back to the campaign and the sort of, the aggressive civil liberty rhetoric you heard back then. what happens to an administration? what changes, if anything has changed, when you come in, you begin getting these briefings? do you think there's been a change in t...

They look through your data? they've started to argue, the administration has, and you've heard this somewhat from obama today sort of between the lines that it only happens when they query the stuff they've already taken and have safeguards on that and it's limited. the problem with that is, and this is going to be mart of the debate going forward, is the patriot act they're deriving this authority from isn't about when you can analyze data, it's an when you can collect it. >> and robert, when you hear this debate, and you've been in these briefings and you know why the administration believe...

0 and support it with your donati donations. the memorial is a national non-profit that doesn't receive city, state or federal funding for its operations. that's "hardball" for now. thank you for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. good evening from washington. i'm ezra klein sitting in for the spectacular chris hayes. tonight on "all in" the day before his vacation, president obama holds a nearly hour-long press conference and makes some big news on the country's surveillance programs. also, tonight, the president defends obama care and slams republicans for hating on...

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