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Erin Burnett OutFront-20140215-00:52:00

that each and every bag was for him but the substantial amount of drugs that were found in his apartment were for personal use. >> now, when you say you're not contending each and every bag was for him, obviously his phone number was found, phillip's phone number was found in your client vineberg's cell phone. that's one of the reason authorities think he may have been dealing drugs to lim. did your client ever give, sell heroin to philip seymour hoffman. >> i'd rather not comment on that. but i will say mr. vineberg and olympian hoffman were friends and had been friends for a considerable period of time. whether they bonded over drugs or bonded over their struggle to kick drugs, that's clearly an issue. >> so your issue is with the term dealer. it sounds like you're not really contesting that they may have sold him. they may have done drugs together. you're trying to say the dealing itself is a different thing? >> clearly, no profit motive

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20140215-00:54:00

if it turns they can prove that the hain, that dose he died from came from robert vineberg whether it was purchased without a profit motive or not, that puts your client on the hook for very serious charges. >> i think clearly at this point, that the prosecution has reached the conclusion that the narcotics that mr. hoffman took that rutted in his overdose did not come from mr. vineberg. there were two separate stamps, different stamps. there was different purity levels. mr. vineberg had not been in contact with mr. hoffman for some period of time. so. >> for some period of time. you're saying it wasn't part of the recent stuff that was found and philip seymour hoffman, it did not come from mr. vineberg. >> initially based on a statement of an informant, the prosecution had some question as to whether mr. vineberg was the individual who supplied

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20140215-00:53:00

here at all. and that would be informed by the fact that you know, the small amount of drugs and small amount of money, $1,000 in the drug business is nothing. it's ridiculous. on top of that, there was no indicia of paraphernalia or in the apartment which would indicate a real enterprise supposed to having drugs for personal use. >> okay. so let me ask you this. robert vineberg says he's a scapegoat and told the "new york post" he could have saved hoffman. what did he mean when he said that. >> i think what he meant was that he had a personal relationship with hoffman. and that he might have been in a position to advise him or if he was in trouble to assist him in a certain way. i think that's what he meant. >> so when people obviously there's so much attention on this case and that's why your client ask getting attention.

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20140215-00:51:00

>> i'm exstatic to be here. >> someone who would be here. let me ask you this. the judge didn't seem to buy the claim that you and your client are making that the 300 bags of heroin found in vineberg's apartment were for personal use. the judge said, if you don't have a job, why would you have this much cash sitting around if you weren't a drug dealer? what's your response to that? >> well, the judge had certain facts from those facts he drew certain conclusions. i have a set of facts that he's not privy to and i've drawn the opposite conclusion. >> what can you tell us that would of thatted that say you have 300 bags in your apartment and that is not anything more than you'd need just for personal use? >> mr. vineberg confided in me the extent of his addiction which is ten bags a day. so if you do the quick math, we're talking about 300 bags supply of a month. you know, i'm not contending

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20140215-00:50:00

former player and cnn's rachel nichols. also, we go back in the baby lab at yale university to find out what's going on inside the minds of babies. what researchers have learned seems to suggest we're all born with a particular type of bias. this all coming up right at the top of the hour. aaron 'ain. >> i know they're born to not sleep. as john berman taught me, the father of twins. thanks, john. the alleged drug dealer suspected of selling heroin to philip seymour hoffman was granted a bond today. robert vineberg sat in the courtroom as his attorney said the 300 bags found in his apartment were for personal use. the self-admitted addict was arrested two days after hoffman was found dead from an apparent overdose. police say hoffman's number was found on vineberg's cell phone. his attorney edward kratt says they were just friends. thanks for taking the time.

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