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american governments. recently unsealed court documents also revealed that the department of justice is looking into donald trump's potential violations of the presidential records act. the espionage act. and of obstruction of justice. but what happens now? will donald trump be prosecuted? should he be prosecuted? and if it, is one of the consequences of that? even though but half of the 38-page affidavit that was unsealed on friday was redacted, there was even redacted information in there to generate serious discussion about a prosecution. that brings up some hard questions and sce...

years chanting lock her up about hillary clinton because of some deleted emails or quote unquote wiping a surveyor, they're now out there defending a man who clearly did not take the national security of the united states to heart. i will be up to doj whether that reaches the level of indictment. but this is disgusting, in my mind. >> and a reaction to president biden's promise to cancel some student debt for low, middle income borrowers and to critics who say it doesn't go far enough. >> there are a lot of people hurting announce cider right now, people are getting crushed with infl...

during that search. first though, we do want to begin with former white house counsel pat cipollone. his deputy appearing before a january 6 grand jury today. evan perez is outside u.s. district court in washington. this of course separate from the investigation to the handling of classified documents. this relates to january 6th. how significant is the testimony of cipollone and his deputy? >> reporter: jim, this is a very important testimony that we're going to get from the -- that the grand jury is going to get from pat cipollone and patrick philbin. these are two men who are in...

leaders he doesn't support a spending plan that includes billions of dollars for the climate, at least not right now. while the president is preparing to use his pen to deliver some green energy dreams to the far left, he is putting something on hold. reportedly to try to make manchin happy. for now, biden will not declare a national emergency at the climate. biden has been quiet on manchin in general. other dems didn't get that message. >> it is not fair to string people along for a year and not come to a conclusion. we're here to serve our constituents. if we can do something produ...

and simon schuster, and nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel is with me on set. talk to me where we are in this moment and why the speech could be critical. you've been on the front lines for months. >> ukraine is trying to do everything it can to stay relevant, to keep the attention on ukraine. ukrainian money, and weapons and wants sanctions to be maintained on russia. i think many are watching. some nations seem to be wavering, maybe it's time to strike a deal. maybe it's time to bring putin back in the fold. perhaps ukraine should give away some of its provinces in ...