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informal discussion theory between a group of new yorkers who are interested in what was happening in the country s policy and political debate and getting together in an interdisciplinary group of people so anyone from the writers, a documentary filmmakers, organization leaders, funders, that kind of thing became a real dynamic for interesting conversations around policy in the political strategy necessary to get those policies put into place and we just incorporated about a few months ago and we are in the process of expanding so this is our first program that we have done of this nature and we are delighted to have both of you with us. thank you. a quick reminder to the folks in the audience and sure you already checked just check your cellphone one more time and make sure it s off if you don t mind, and then also for those of you in the audience i am somebody selling both of these great books right over there, so be sure to hit over there when we are done. so we are ....