Commentary, newsmaker interviews and panel discussions. the smoking gun against donald trump. watch your fake news media and action from earlier today. child a one from trump s former campaign manager paul manafort. he s facing a slew of charges and this is also the first high-profile test of special counsel robert mueller. for for example mr. mena ford is found guilty, that makes it a real problem for the president of the united states. paul manafort. paul manafort. paul manafort. the campaign is accused of hiding at least $30 million. we will learn the nitty-gritty details about paul manafort s financial situation. did you see what color type paul manafort was wearing? he did not either because he sat with his back to us. there is your media obsessing over a 2005 tax case. up aggressive prosecution from a special counsel who is supposed to be investigating russia, is one more clear example. in the united states of america today, sadly we have a two-tiered system of justice in this country. anyone ever associated with president trump is now under the legal microscope. but hillary clinton, 2016, exoneration before investigatio investigation. they don t interview her until july and we know that she committed crimes. we know the server was hacked by foreign entities. we know she violated the espionage act. secret intelligence, where is that server, where are those emails? why did she destroy classified top secret information. we all know that if any of you out there, if you had deleted subpoenaed emails, as that wash application, sally yates signed off about it, and what about peter strzok and lisa page? that s one against the candidate they love in one against the candidate they hate. we know the fbi director is a liar and he probably should be charged with certain crimes as well. leaking, and this is the sad truth tonight. we have a post constitutional america. we are starting to demand equal justice under the law and we are going to lose our rights and our freedoms as a constitutional republic forever. that s right, this upcoming midterm election, and we ve only just begun to peel back the layers of this deep state. and i can only continue if republicans maintain the minorities house and senate. earlier tonight, while campaigning, gubernatorial candidate ron desantis had this to say about the upcoming elections and so much more. democrats want to raise your taxes. they want to destroy your jobs. they want to crush our industries with crippling regulations. republicans want strong borders and no crime. democrats want open borders which equals massive crime. and on top of that, the democrats, nancy pelosi and the whole group, maxine. they have launched outrageous attacks on our incredible law enforcement officers and on i.c.e. at our border control. the new platform, what they want to do, the democratic party wants to abolish ice i.c.e. in other words they want ms-13 to rule our country and that s not going to happen. in some states democrats are even trying to give illegal immigrants the right to vote. they want to give them the right to vote. if you want safety, if you want borders, if you want to have a country then you need to go out and vote republican. sean: so tonight while president trump slammed rightly democrats, many in the crowd actually called out the abuse by press in the country. in fact many floridians in in e descendants let jim acosta know exactly what they felt about his networks partisan abusive biased coverage. take a look. at the white house has only held three briefings with the press this month, and there is no other way to describe the white house is doing these days. top officials including the president were hiding from the press and we will give you a sense of what s happening right now. you can hear there is a chorus of billing and other chants on the strong crowd here in tailback, florida. they are saying things like this, and we will do that with all of our viewers tonight. sean: they are not wrong, it s not false. i m actually going to give your network some advice, if you have an open mind and an open heart. the people of this country are screaming at you for a reason. they don t like your unfair, abusively biased treatment of the president of the united states. if you want to earn the respect of all americans, not the coastal leeds, california, san francisco and new york, maybe try reporting the entire story and getting rid of the bias. maybe examine why people are saying this to us. in other words, coverage like this from the white house correspondent at cnn, this is why they are doing it. take a look. david, go ahead. is obviously not helpful at times and i know that s plain to see. there were some fears on capitol hill, and that could lead to impeachment proceedings. what is the president s thinking on that and what is your thinking on that? you understand how the law can be different than border security? and that s part of the negotiation that we want congress to have. they may not be in favor in favor. what we are witnessing right now is just this erosion of our freedoms. right now, the president is really sensitive to criticism and he lashes out in this fashion. the last three news conferences, all of the questions to the american news media have been handled by conservative press and i think, there is no other way to describe it, but the fix is in. let me ask you a question. do you believe jim, do you believe speak out they are not always going to be highly skilled. jim, i appreciate your speech. i think we saw the president s true colors today and i m not sure they were red, white and blue. jim acosta, that s called opinion. and you were extremely rude. oh, and a liberal partisan hack, that s why americans don t trust you or fake news cnn. he pretended to be fair, and on and an unbiased journalist but you are not. you are not reporting facts, you are giving an opinion. and it s pretty obvious and the people see it. so instead of doubling down on your antitrust breakage, maybe look inward. maybe find a cure is an income maybe find your inner peace, analyze objectively the overwhelming, nonstop, hysterical coverage against the president. in other words, maybe you will have a better luck getting an interview if you start being a little fair. maybe, just maybe, it will take my advice. we do have a recent study, fox news. that s right, not fake news cnn, which is among the most trusted brands in tv news. so while cnn continues to trust the president hour after hour, minute after minute, day after day, other never trump-ers are getting worse, literally bottom of the barrel. lake is one of the single most vulgar terms to describe the first lady of the united states. imagine the outrage if a republican candidate ever said the same thing about the former first lady, michelle obama. the outrage from these very same people would be nonstop, for the media has largely ignored the story. some republicans are calling for to get her to ban this deranged trumpet hater from their social media platform and we will not hold our breath. 98 short days until these important terms and each night on this program we will do something that your mainstream media will not do. we will actually show you the very worst rhetoric. they will call these republicans racist, sexist, islamophobic, dirty air and dirty water and they want to throw grandma over the cliff and kill children. there s only one way to counter the deranged left wing in this country. if you care about your rights, if you care about this country, if you care about the president s successful agenda, you better get in and go vote in november because the future of the country does depend on it. democrats have their postelection agenda in place. if they win and 98 days you see on the screen what they will do. before we get to our guest tonight, i have to wish a good friend of mine, pete constantino, a happy birthday. he is a friend, a gifted brilliant brain surgeon who has saved the lives of so many including many in our military. happy 50th birthday. joining us now with reaction, fox news contributor sara carter author of the number one book in the country. fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett, let s start with the men paul manafort chat wow trial. we ll rush i get mentioned? no. trump walt, and the trump campaign won t. this is a perfect example of you will be persecuted and prosecuted if you so much as shake hands with donald trump and join however briefly his presidential campaign. if you are friends of hill and bill, you get a sweetheart deal and immunity. james comey abused the position of his office as fbi director to clear hillary clinton in the face of compelling evidence of criminality, in order to clear her path to the presidency. on the very day he cleared her, he launched the investigation of donald trump, meeting secretly with the author of the anti-trumped dossier who is on the payroll of hillary clinton and really that s the thesis. pam watching a 2005 case and they said we don t care about manafort s taxes. so we can prosecute or impeach donald trump. that s the only reason we are here. and i think every american needs to be worried. remember, sean, judge ellis himself said he be begrudgingly move forward with the case because rod rosenstein get so much latitude to special counsel mueller. and let s not forget that andrew weissmann isn t in charge of this case. andrew weissmann who by the way have met with the associated press the day before the associated press wrote that big expose, this was before he joined the men manafort team ad they wrote that big expose on april 12, 2017. and now they are fighting that. you know, wiseman was never removed from this case and should have been investigated because the fbi himself, the people in that meeting with the ap had actually filed a complaint against wiseman. we are seeing a case that in 2014 the government had the opportunity to go after paul manafort. i don t know what he did and you don t know everything that he did, but they decided sean: i have no idea about the ukrainian deals he did. this same wiseman that was running the case, wasn t he excoriated by two judges for holding exculpatory evidence? oh sure. it was overturned unanimously by the supreme court. 9-nothing. did he put four maryland executives in jail for a year? ruin their lives. then they were released because what he had done was wrong. what why would someone hire somebody with that record that was excoriated by judges holding exculpatory evidence? if you want to hire a team of partisans to be unfair and not neutral and to conjure a case out of thin air against him to his innocent, that s what they are doing there. sean: and this is all in your book? it is. prosecutors tried to smear paul manafort simply because he s rich. and the judge stopped them and turned to the jurors and said, it s not a crime to have a lot of money. this is how pernicious these prosecutors are and how unprincipled and unscrupulous they are. sean: i look at this track record of the guy that s leaking this case and i think of what the president says, 13 protestant democrats. isn t one of the hires, not just andrew weissmann, but tell me if i m wrong. did she ever worked for the clinton foundation as a lawyer? yes, and this should not be shocking to people right now because what we have seen over and over again is extraordinary targeting of the president and everyone surrounding the president. these people are doing everything they can to go after him and this is one example of that. sean: between you and greg s book and me, i don t think they like any of us. but keep up the good work. coming up, a warning about mueller s justice system. it should scare all of you. important interviews coming up next. woman: it felt great not having hepatitis c. it s like a load off my shoulders. i was just excited for it to be over. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. it s been prescribed to more than a quarter million people and is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. before starting harvoni your doctor will test to see if you ve ever had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after harvoni treatment. tell your doctor if you ve ever had hepatitis b, a liver transplant, other liver or kidney problems, hiv or any other medical conditions and about all the medicines you take including herbal supplements. taking amiodarone with harvoni can cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. common side effects of harvoni include tiredness, headache and weakness. ready to let go of hep c? ask your hep c specialist about harvoni. sean: that was the president earlier tonight in florida. and he is keeping his agenda with of which russia winch hunt continuing after 480 some days of russia collision. mueller s weaponized system shouldst scare all americans. she is now the number one best-selling author of the new york times. that is the hugest accomplishment for a person that i love, and admire, she fills in on the show and has her own show, layers, leakers and liberals. judge justice jeanine pirro. here s the problem i have. greg s book came out after yours, and he is number on amazon. you are lucky, we love you and we all come on to be on your show. i want to bring people inside the justice system. didn t you know he killed 19 people? he did. if you would testify, i think it was john gotti senior at the time, the teflon dog. they you testify, and, in other words they put the screws to him. if you sing or compose, i don t know what he did because i don t remember the case, we will give you a sweetheart deal. as a judge and as an attorney what do people want to say to get me out of jail? the article today is that u.s. attorneys have a political agenda, and that political agenda will determine whether or not they want to forgive someone who was murdered 19 has murdered 19 people that they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt so they can go after someone else. they are going after mueller, and bernie can talk about this, because they want to squeeze him. sean: why would you want to let someone who killed 19 people make a deal? won t he say whatever you want him to say? when i was at d.a. i would make deals with drug dealers to get after the guy was about that drug dealer. you do it all the time in law enforcement. the credibility is slim. every one of the people in the article i mentioned,: , colin, flynn and manafort are specifically investigative targets specifically because they knew trump. all three, and cohen, who i m pretty disappointed with at this stage, cohen ironically was his attorney and they targeted him intentionally for this reason. that s a purpose behind it targeting attorney. and so you talk about what they did with sammy the bowl, they charged michael flynn with one false statement. and he they said he didn t think he was lying. he had to sell his home, and he said, well we have to go after your kid. i m assuming that happened. so what father won t dive on the sword to kill themselves for their kids? they do that all the time. that s what they do to get people to tweet. they go after your house, your mother, your daughter. we want this guy and in order to get him, everyone they ve ever touched. that s the only way they can prove a crime. and what they are doing in the manafort case, they are bringing in all kinds of evidence to show, he thinks he s above the law. he bought persian rugs and an ostrich jacket. how great was the judge toda today? fico and, those guys know, and because normally that s not the case. normally the federal prosecutors run rogue over these cases and when they do so the judges sit back and let them do what they want. if i m on the jury, and i m listening to the defense asked, did you cut a deal with these guys over here? did they threaten to put you in jail, did they say you are not going to go to jail if you do this? i m dismissing that person because i don t believe that you cut a deal to get out of jail. you are basically thrived and paid. true or false. you are going to do that, yes. and and bribing the witnesses. they are bribing the witnesses to get them to testify but, a lot of times and that s what alan dershowitz said earlier. the export that s false. and, what would you say? that guy, he would confess to sinking the titanic because he wants to get out of jail. when the jury looks at him he says, the prosecutor makes the case. and, that s 98%. it 65-75%. the feds got you by that s not going to make news. why did you say that? my point is when the feds squeeze you, they squeeze you tight. sean: by the way, judge shapiro s book is number one. and you ve been out how many weeks? jesse and jessica. this will get interesting, next. -i ve seen lots of homes helping new customers bundle and save big, but now it s time to find my dream abode. -right away, i could tell his priorities were a little unorthodox. -keep going. stop. a little bit down. stop. back up again. is this adequate sunlight for a komodo dragon? -yeah. -sure, i want that discount on car insurance just for owning a home, but i m not compromising. -you re taking a shower? -water pressure s crucial, scott! it s like they say location, location, koi pond. -they don t say that. so, maybe it s time to upgrade. get more out of your water. get zerowater. earlier tonight, in tampa, florida, touting his economic accomplishments. with the midterms, 98 days away, just because friends are working in overdrive to downplay and discredit this record. this is what the hill yesterday voted. celebrities dive into midterms hoping to thwart trump. here s his reaction. cohost of hit show the five and jessica truman. let s go through really quick, obama, 13 million more on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty and those participation rates since the 70s. lowest home ownership rate in 51 years and mckinley did more debt than any other president combined. trump, 4 million new jobs created, the best labor participation rate that we ve ever had. record low unemployment, 14 states. hispanic americans, and asian-americans, women in the workplace and more jobs and that s the single greatest economy that we have had in ten years. tell me, what s wrong with that, why would he want to go back to your friend obama s record and agenda? because he did better. oh, god. president obama added over 11 million jobs and got the unemployment rate down. 13 million americans who are insured now because of president obama. don t shake your head to come i didn t shake my head. it i m not calling used stupid but the economy is stupi stupid. when obama wasn t charged, it wasn t 1.6 average gdp growth. and what happens during the city union, you guys clapped and nobody was announced. nancy pelosi, the most unpopular politician in america, and then you have trump, a stable genius, she s not at 48%. talk to any pollster, maxine waters is not the face of our party and neither is hillary clinton. who is the face? a lot of different people come up depends on where you are. i could tell you the face of the republican party. i can t. and i have more things to say. we have 4.1 gdp growth, and that s a 789% which is utterly ridiculous. and donald trump already added that up. they are never coming back. i don t know why you are first first migrating someone on two years, and i ve read charlie kirk s tweets where he said that donald trump has accomplished more in two years. it is factually inaccurate. sean: we have 2 minutes left so i already have the winner. is that you would be fair tonight. sean: you have a lot of ground to cover in 2 minutes. i think i m doing a good job. let s talk about solar and wind energy. it went up 369% and there was a decrease in coal jobs. you know what the future will be? flex fields. the future of america will be the world s dominant producer of energy in by the end of the trump administration in six years. if you don t think it will be clean coal? well that s part of the solution, you can make flex fuels out of it. what are you think about the tariff war? you know what i think the good tradewise, trump put america first and so the last. do you work in the soybean field or harley-davidson? it s like when i go to the gym, no pain no gain. i don t go that often but i ve heard people say that. the soybean farmers, not big fans. the people who work at coca-cola, caterpillars workert a trade war or did we get a better deal? we haven t seen the final product there yet. we are moving towards progress. we got a better deal. could we have gotten the deal with the president didn t negotiate? no obviously. it was literally a concession. you can say thank you to president trump. and the president also got the european countries to cover up that cost. aren t you happy that all these manufacturing jobs are back? aren t you happy the economy is doing well? you know what the problem is for your party, every bit of good news is news that comes back to take power. and i don t know how many democrats are the face of the party or not. the president is that brings celebrities to campaign, and you guys would love it if a celebrity wanted to meet you. kanye west sends out one tweet in favor of the press and you guys are riding high. that s a trade that i would definitely you are on a roll. she s supposed to be amazing. you know what? it was a bad day for you. it s jesse s world, he owns it. all right, goodbye. sean: when i come back, the president pardoned alice marie johnson. she was going to spend 20 years in prison, but thanks to president trump, she s here. our incredible story coming up next. has this unique combination of probiotics. it helps replenish good bacteria. get four-in-one symptom defense. gathered here are the world s finest insurance experts. rodney mastermind of discounts like safe driver, paperless. the list goes on. how about a discount for long lists? gold. mara, you save our customers hundreds for switching almost effortlessly. it s a gift. and jamie. -present. -together we are unstoppable. so, what are we gonna do? insurance. that s kind of what we do here. great-grandmother. she served nearly 22 years in prison. one oh fence, a first-time nonviolent drug offense. life sentence, it s insanity. president trump did rightly commute alice s sentence, and i m getting goose bumps watching it now. allison reuniting with her family early last month after nearly 22 years behind bars. by the way, kim kardashian is receiving backlash after refusing to malign the president in an interview with mr. weinstein jr. jimmy kimmel last night, take a look. more good things are coming out of our conversations. i have nothing bad to say about the president. so i am very focused, but i don t agree with everything either. i had no idea what to expect, and i was just like, i m going to be focused. i am so honored that you are here, i am so happy that you are out. thank you. i don t talk about conversations i ve had with the president but when i saw him last we talked about you. that video, it moved his heart. and actually said, i want to do more of this, how do you feel? i feel this does not seem real. my sister is in the studio with me tonight. sean: hi she is one that ran out and brought the roses to me. the reaction that i m getting from the public every single place that i go if people recognize who i am, they hugged me and tell me how happy on home and how they followed from the day kim went to the white house. there were prayer vigil s going on all over, literally. sean: how hard was that? the weighting had been very painful for me and my family. so many ups and downs, so many false alarms as it was going to happen for years. we have fault and fault and fault. sean: she went to the white house for you, how cool was that? yes, on my birthday. did you realize it was on my birthday. i was watching tv that day and i didn t have any idea what she was about to do. to tweet something out, happy birthday alice marie johnson, today is for you. i m so happy that kim is staying focused because there are so many others just like me who had none violent offenders. sean: how did you get a life sentence over the worst crime ever? that is insane. this system is broken. the president said he s going to do more of it. i was so happy that his heart had been touched to do more. and something else you did that really amazed me, and i talked about that at the time, i loved what you said. i said thank you america, think the president. thank you for giving me the second chance. i will let you down. i won t let him down. there is no way. this country is a country of second chances, and i believe that as the president see is has taken place with me that he is going to follow up and do some other things for other people. people see my face and that s what they need to see. i m just like you, and my family is here with me tonight. how many are here with you? i ve been here ten years, pro bono. sean: amazing, thank you for what you did it. and there is your sister listen, i m so happy and i hope that you see the president and tell him your story so that he can hear that there are other people like you that deserve that chance. just like me. sean: god bless you and it s an honor to you, so glad you are free. thank you for your support. sean: when we come back, some of the highlights from the president s rally in florida, straight ahead. yes start them off right. with the school supplies they need at low prices all summer long. save $200 on this dell laptop at office depot officemax. save $200 on this dell laptop let your perfect drive come together at the lincoln summer invitation sales event. get 0% apr on select 2018 lincoln models plus $1,000 bonus cash. but having usaa- now that s a privilege. we re the baker s and we re usaa members for life. usaa. get your insurance quote today. sean: during tonight s rally, president trump talked about north korea and that disaster is a deal. take a look. speak it we are doing well in north korea, we have our hostags back, as you know. there has been no nuclear tests. there has been no missiles or rockets flying, beautifully, over japan. i think of our relationship is very good with chairman kim, and we ll all see how it all works out because there s nothing like talking. the iran nuclear deal. it s a horror show. [boos] i hope it works out well with iran. having a lot of difficulty right now. i hope it works out well. i have a feeling that we ll talk pretty soon. and maybe not, and that s okay, too prayed sean: by the way, i do hope that alice johnson that would be awesome.
anti-racist tweet and wants to it imagine a world where anybody can enter freely from mexico. take a second and just imagine no wall. no wall in southern arizona. brian: can you imagine that night. in new york cynthia nixon said it s time for the democratic party to push socialism and others on the left seem on board. the establishment is terrified of that word. socialism. but if we learned one thing from the obama years, it s that republicans will call us socialists no matter what we do. [cheers and applause]. so we might as well as give them the real thing. brian: this is going to be a big debate in 2020, isn t it? i don t think it will be a debate point. A look at the latest news and headlines of the day features discussions of politics and culture, analysis of political correctness in Campus Craziness and. brian: columnist mark stein here. there are times when you have to split hairs to find the problem. we don t have to split hairs here. socialism, let s just embrace it? right, 20 years ago during the clinton era when you watched campaign ads, the democrats all ran as pseudo-conservatives. i am fred smith. i am on tough on crime. you had to wait in the the end to find out if this was a republican or democrat pretending to be tough on crime or the rest. i understand that s frustrating. they want to let their inner leftist out. the last cycle moderate democrats got associated with the clinton campaign. hillary is just someone whose illegal immigrants. anyone who has been been through legal immigration is not fond of that authority. brian: there are a lot of law enforcement officials and families, you might have a good friend of yours. when you say abolish ice, that hit homes everywhere. in what country is that a good split splitted political thing to do. 9 out of every 10 arrests through ice are people with criminal records. what is your problem with that? the reason the leftists are keen on that is because they don t care about that. you listen to the guy running for governor in arizona. he is saying imagine a world where anybody can enter from mexico. there is a name for that world. it s mexico. if you let anybody in, the border moves north and then it s at the canadian border and you are all mexicans. brian: i thought the debate was between the fence or the wall. now it s for open? once we have amnesty and legalize these hard-working people. it s frustrating to have to do that. it s much easier to let your inner open borders side out. they are open borders. they are identity politics. they have had it with the whole clinton thing. i don t want sister-soldiers moments anymore. i think they feel dirty from living with those accommodations and the last time around. even if i disagree because i am not a socialist, i respect people who are consistent. we are seeing inconsistencies across the board. brian: against president trump it would have been an interesting match up because they were different in philosophy. this is supposed to be a big wave for democrats. with these 2 policies in particular, they are doing everything to get rid of that wave. do you look from what you see right now, do you look for them to pick up 23 seats to gain the house despite what we just went over? well, it might be a way in some primary states. but it could be a flood that could drown everybody out in 2020. people have to pay attention to what works in the primary and in one particular district like courtez s district might not work across the country. if democrats think that everybody is a socialist or all the way left, then they are misinformed. i worked with bernie sanders, yet i am not a socialist. if they try to box everybody up in one box and not figure out what people really want and pay attention to the pole polls, we will number trouble. brian: if you want people to keep money, don t raise health care costs. the party that hundreds health care and delivers quality health care at affordable prices will be in power. to get to the kitchen table in america, it s still health care. for me and my daughter it s over $430 to cover insurance for myself. when i had a staffing firm with 300 employees, we went out of business because they forced temporary agency to cover herlth herlth. health care. it s not resolved. we would like to provide good health care for myself. your local news. you are absolutely right. brian: two names you hope will be front returns on the left? well, because i worked with senator sanders doesn t mean he will get my vote. i will start from scratch. let them line up. get 10 to 12 candidates. i tell people, pick a side or step aside. i look for candidates to be consistent on their message. like today harris said she doesn t believe on identity politics. right now i am confused. i want to see who all will come out. the front liners and people we may not have heard of. not just anybody because they are popular but substance behind add-on advantage. this is not a screensaver.game. this is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body s own immune system, thanks to medicine that didn t exist until now. and toda.y fake news a fabrication i am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son donald had in trump tower. this was a meeting to get information on an opponent. and: the media responded with a meltdown as they claimed this was a huge break through to the russian collusion story watch. president trump reversed course on previous denials. saying the purpose of his son s meeting at trump tower was to get information on hillary. an admission of lying. it fits the dictionary of collusion. donald trump admits they are all lying. what are the consequences? brian: the only problem president trump said the same exact thing a year ago. i think from a practical standpoint, most people would have taken that meeting. it s called opposition research or research into your opponent. brian: wait a second? he said it already. byron york told everyone about this at noon yesterday. everyone ran with the story. how do you explain the hysteria? it s hard to explain. you heard george stephanopoulos said that was a dramatic new admission. it simply wasn t. you could only argue that people forgot that a year ago the president said the same thing. you played a little sound bite of president trump saying that in july of last year. he was even more succinct in a tweet saying most politicians would have gone to a meeting like the one don jr. attended to get info on the opponent. precisely what he said this time. brian: right. it was in don jr. s emails that he set up this meeting from his promoter friend in england. these people want to talk to you. he said great. they set it up and it went nowhere. the washington post said trump finely admits colluding with russia. we should admit, it would have been difficult for the president last year after those emails to come out to deny that the meeting, the proposal for the meeting was about turning over some incriminating information about hillary clinton who was right there in the email. brian: i get the sense the president will win out over his legal team and sit down with mueller. is that what your sources are saying? that s still very unclear. he is hearing over and over of the dangers of talking to mueller. on the other hand, you have to remember. donald trump has engaged in a lot of litigation in his career. this is not the first time he s been questioned. this idea that perhaps trump would fall apart if he faced questioning is not an accurate one. brian: he had trouble in some depositions in the past. great to sigh. you had the story early and stayed sane. intentional came back with violent demonstrations in berkeley. that ugly story next. welcome! hi there. so, what do you look for in a vehicle? sleek designs. performance. dependability is top on my list. well then, here s some vehicles that deliver on that. woah! wow. oh jeez! that s our truck! it s our truck! and they re our cars! that s my chevy! chevy s the only brand to earn j.d. power dependability awards across cars, trucks and suvs three years in a row. awesome. i m proud. it s like a dynasty. it s impressive. stay at la quinta. where we re changing with stylish make-overs. then at your next meeting, set your seat height to its maximum level. bravo, tall meeting man. start winning today. book now at lq.com your hair is so soft! start winning today. did you use head and shoulders two in one? 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(vo) go national. go like a pro. brian: president trump called out fake news in the failing new york times. he has a preferred label for the mainstream media. it s new mexico lobos of the people. enemies of the people. complaints about the label embold ended the president. he is doubling down on using. it the media is calling trump a dictator. this is the type of behavior that happens in authorityian societies where leaders push down the media. when he says fake news he means news that is not favorable to me. that s not how it is received to people to whom he is speaking. they think it s news that is made up. folks, it s not. dividing good outlets and bad outlets. it s bs. brian: tammy bruce joins us. who is right? the president is right. here s the issue. gallup did a poll about the importance of the american media. the super majority of americans believe they have an important roll in our democracy. they are spaceed to supposed to give us the news and challenge the power. they have thrown their lot in, between the political arena. they decided to help certain things along. that s abandoning the american people. there are a majority of people who believe there is no unbiassed news they can relie on. there it are other outlets. you see it right there. what is fascinating if trump was a dictator, none of those opinions would be heard on the news. it s turned into a selfish, inward looking entity. like an infant that is not getting what it wants. brian: there are so many deranged people out there. i am worried about them targeting people. on c-span a caller said i will shoot brian stealther and that s disturbing. it s. the problem with this entire dialogue, the media just reporting to people would take the steam out of what president trump is doing. we know people have been hurt. it s scalise, attempted murder of 23 other republicans. the attack of rand paul. you have threats and individuals arrested for threatening the president and other republican officeholders. the rhetoric has compelled people to do crazy things. brian: now another topic. over the weekend the president tweeted. lebron james was interviewed by the dumbest man on television. he made lebron james look smart which is not easy to do. i like mike. the president was label a racist but he s called other people who are white for years. called mitt romney the dumbest and worst candidate we have ever had. an equal opportunity offender. you are you surprised people saw race in this? look lebron announced he needs to do more than sports. he is engaits. and that is talking about politics. he s in the kitchen now. that transcends complexion. it s a liberal answer to a text and it s a happen. i think lebron james is better than that. i think he knows and everybody knows that donald trump is transparent and saying these things about all kinds of people. donald trump is fair in the nature of who he attacks and praises based on the nature of what they are doing. brian: i wish he would not do it. lebron james took shots at him. he is not dumb and don lemon is not dumb. the president played golf this week with lindsey graham. a man he insulted. took his phone number and read it to the whole world. our first conversation that we can ease some of this: go after policy. the personal back and forth from the media and the president is not the most helpful thing. we need policies that the president promotes to succeed because they help our lives. brian: our last topic for you. one thing over the weekend. antifa ugly again. demonstrations in portland and berkeley. they got violent. 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[shouting]. brian: conservative activist charlie and candace were harhassed this morning at a philadelphia coffee shop. one man poured a drink on her and others shrieked no white supremacy. she was black. she thanked the cops for stepping in. and antifa smashed the windows of a news agency. antifa living in their parent s basement coming out into the light. you are dealing with portland and berkeley which hasn t had a good history of confronting these things. in portland the police and mayor not acting when antifa blocked the ice office. they seem to prefer these things get out of control. the american people see this. it s not good for liberals or our dialogue. the violence is unacceptable and the police departments have to be more control. brian: this will get ugly. when candace owens wants have to have breakfast with charlie in philadelphia where our country was founded and where the liberty bell sits and they have to take this type of abuse. the maxine waters message was to confront trump supporters. few people have access to the administration members. but you have access to candace and charlie and your neighbor. when you have somebody like maxine waters any other representative, leadership needs to step forward. democratic leadership has to say enough is enough. hillary could help stop it. jessie jackson and paul ryan and mitch mcconnell, they could come together and say enough is enough if they want it to end. brian: right. candace and charlie will be on fox and friends tomorrow. thank you very much. a great job on the the five. you will be here tomorrow night. i will, in that chair. brian: tucker is back after the break. to interview a democratic congressman who is already running for president. no matter who rides point, there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. call one today. are you in good hands? it s the ford summer sales event and now is the best time to buy. man: (on tablet) preparing classic campfire trout. say what? trout. trout. alright. you don t think i need both? why does he have that axe? make summer go right with ford, america s best-selling brand. now get 0% financing for 72 months plus $1,000 ford credit bonus cash on a great selection of suvs. during the ford summer sales event, get our best offer of the season: 0% financing for 72 months plus $1,000 ford credit bonus cash. noooooo. nooooo. quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent than the leading ordinary brand. ahoy! 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[ding] brian: the president venezuela was almost assassinated by a drone. he was delivering a speech. medura has no short an of enemy. he is accused of rigging the election last may. the attack gives him a convenient excuse for further crackdowns on country dissidents. the democratic party is descending to chaos. it s becoming more and more extreme on race, immigration and economics. at the same time, they are harassing or physically attacking anybody who disagrees. maybe there is another way, though. congress john delaney is a democratic congressman representing maryland. he mounted a dark horse presidential campaign and published, a book, the right answer. . tucker spoke to him. tucker: people are in favor of the idea of reuniting the country. it s hard to find a bipartisan consensus. how would you do it? i think there are some areas. things like infrastructure and criminal justice reform and the opioids crisis. there are things in our debate we agree with each other on. there are things we disagree with each other on. there is a role for both things. but we never spend any time on the things we agree with each other on. that s part of the problem. it s simple but our job is to do both. tucker: i agree with that. absolutely and completely. give us a reassuring list of some of the things we agree completely on? that we should invest more in our infrastructure. it s crumbling. we are behind competitors. we agree we should reform our crimmial sufficient system. justice system. the data is unfair for citizens. the opioids crisis is ravaging our country and there are things we need to do there. i think there is a long list of things. we should agree that technology is changing nevering our country. this would be nice if we had a national artificial intelligence sector. we need a new authorization for military force because we are relying on a 17-year-old document to engage in conflicts around the world. these are just some of the things i think there is agreement among the american people. tucker: but not in the congress? not in the congress. there is reasons for. that. gerrymandering is a big problem. it creates district that don t represent the american people. congress is broken in many ways and our democracy is broken. not does the person with the most votes win? that still works. representatives in washington don t go there with the spirit to find unity and common purpose. they go there and they might. they put their only political parties ahead of the country. as a result we don t do anything. i think there say huge cost associated with not doing anything. i think we paid a price for a long time as americans. tucker: yes. i don t think there is a question about. a final person question. have you been in congress a couple of terms and you are leaveing to run for president? i am. tucker: if you could do it over again, would you do? did you like it? how awful was it? i think it was terrific. it s the great privilege of my life to serve in the congress of the united states. i think this is a magnificent country. i think we have the best country in the world. i learned a lot and met terrific colleagues. i have a clear perspective on the type of leadership we need not only as president, but there is something deeper we need in this country. that s for the american people to have some responsibility associated with fixing our broken democracy and bringing us together. i would never had that perspective had i not served in the congress of the united states. tucker: you are an optmist. thank you. brian: on line and in print the right is being censored. why racism on the left being excused? we will analyze next. some cash back cards send you on a journey to get to your bonus cash back. first they make you sign up for bonus cash back and it s only on a few categories. and when those categories change, you gotta sign up again. when does it end?! with the capital one quicksilver® card, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. it s like a cash back oasis. what s in your wallet? the chili pepper sweat-out. not cool. freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting? now that s cool! coolsculpting safely freezes and removes fat cells with little or no downtime. and no surgery. results and patient experience may vary. some common side effects include temporary numbness, discomfort,and swelling. ask your doctor if coolsculpting is right for you and visit coolsculpting.com today for your chance to win a free treatment. 3 toddlers won t stop him.. and neither will lower back pain. because at a dr. scholl s kiosk he got a recommendation for our custom fit orthotic to relieve his foot, knee, or lower back pain, from being on his feet. dr. scholl s. born to move. 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again, i think it s problematic that we can t have a conversation or that people are upset even having a conversation. look are there legitimate concerns when people post hateful things. some of the messages i get about my judiciary background should be taken down and flagged and marked. if you call for violence. there is no place for that. i agree with these platforms preserving their terms of service. just to have the conversation about something, brian, you and i engage in debate regularly. it s important and healthy and we grow. calling for violence not a good thing. and calling for violence, i reserve the right of those platforms to remove those posts. brian: do you think this is boxed? i think the platforms have to have algorhythms for moving posts. only when fox news reached out did a human review and say there is nothing wrong with this. they still have a lot of work to do. brian: so many times the topics that are conservative get targeted. in this case you talking about something got targeted. sarah s anti-white racism is not a concern for the new york times. she still hasener job. still has her job. another person had her article removed about costing an actress in a trans-gender role. the are we are seeing a double standard on who gets to say what. this woman says i was kidding. it was a sapphire. satire. i was responding to trolls. and liberal twitter responds great, no problem. where is that courtesy when you are a conservative? brian: it doesn t happen. you write that scarlet can play this role. why is there outrage? she is an actress. she is not doing a documentary. you pointed that out and your employer s reaction was? to take the piece down after my colleagues wrote a series of letters expressing outrage at what i said and the way i said it. brian: you were hired to give your opinion and you gave it. they said you would have to take that it down, and they said there will be a committee who decides if your column can be posted in the future. they wanted me to meet with the committee any time i wrote on something sensitive to make sure i didn t ruffle the wrong feathers. brian: your reaction? to resign. brian: do you have any regrets? it s scary not to know where i am going. i have been freelancing and i have my integrity. brian: what has this process showed you from the story we just read, what has this story told you? there were two responses. one said she was kidding. others said it doesn t matter if she was kidding. if you are anti-white it s fine. she is asian-american and high enough on the totem poll to excuse anything she does. where is that courtesy? the fact she grew up in somalia and was oppressed by muslim. brian: she is black and muslim? exactly. it s a crazy double standard. who gets to talk and who we defend and who we criticize and who we fire. brian a retiring california congressman said we may have to get regulation. we have to clear lines. if you call for violence,ry move it. anything sort of that let the marketplace of ideas clean up that speech. brian: you will be fine. straight ahead, first statues were taken down. now texas activists want to rename the state s capital because it was named after a guy that defended slavery. that story about austin, texas, when we come back. how d that go? he kept spelling my name with an i but it s bryan with a y. yeah, since birth. that drives me crazy. yes. it s on all your email. yes. they should know this? yeah. the guy was my brother-in-law. that s ridiculous. well, i happen to know some people. do they listen? what? they re amazing listeners. nice. guidance from professionals who take their time to get to know you. continuing to evolve. and i would say that ctca is definitely on the cusp of those changes. patients can be overwhelmed . we really focus on taking the time with each individual patient so they can choose the treatment appropriate for them. the care that ctca brings is the kind of care i ve wanted for my patients. being able to spend time with them, have a whole team to look after them is fantastic. i empower women with choices. it s not just picking a surgeon. it s picking the care team, and feeling secure where you are. surround yourself with the team of breast cancer experts at cancer treatment centers of america. visit cancercenter.com/breast appointments available now. your hair is so soft! did you use head and shoulders two in one? 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Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. shot and killed by police in this country this year which is eight more than at a same time last year which the washington post, i get to write have been keeping tally for several years now. 109 of those have been black men who have been unarmed. that s disproportionate given our population in this country and it is 2.5 kpiemtimes greate us than it is for a white male in this country. that is what the players are protesting and those of us in the media once again we have couched this as an an ththem protest and in fact it is against police brutality. that s what the players are disturbed about and the fact that they can t get their message out. it becomes an issue of the way we and the media characterize this narrative. phillip, let s talk about this and whether it is the nfl or whether it is these charges by omarosa or the immigration fight. if you are a republican in a tight race, what do you make of all of this and can you avoid these very not just very tough questions and actually let me take that back. these should not be tough questions, how do you handle these and can you avoid answering for what is i think a critical moment in american history about who we are as a country? yes. and our values as a country and what presidential leadership is because this president have said nothing. you know he s led in the other direction, right? exactly. she s stoking some of these divisions. there is a lot of endangered house republicans incumbents in suburban districts. those candidates do not want the election to be about cultural issues or the nfl protest. they don t want the election to be about taking children away from their parents at the border. president trump sees those issues as a way to motivate his base and voters. he thinks it works for him for 2016 when he won the presidency against all odds and he thinks it is going to work for him this november and maintaining the house and senate. the congressional leaders they want this election to be about the economy and tax cuts and sort of kitchen table issues that that matters to these voters. beyond 2016, last year the president at least seemed to have seen something with his response to what happened in charlottesville that have informed the way he behaved since then. al year ago tomorrow was sunday i guess, the unite right rally show america and racism and bigotry and violence. a woman lost her life and this was donald trump s response in the days afterwards. we are closely following the terrible events unfolding in charlottesville, virginia. we condemn in the strongest possible terms, this display of hatred and bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. i think there is blame on both sides and i have no doubt about it. he chose not to denounce the n neo-nazis or white nationalists, did he pay a price? is the lesson for him he can say those things and not pay a price? well, chris, these are the issues i take of my new book of what truth sounds like. i addressed the fact that donald trump drawn tremendous support in regards to either complicity through silence or out hand embrace by him by these right wings so called alt-right groups. the mainstreaming of richard spencing and other people slicked back haircuts and nice crisp suits that articulate a nas nas nasty ideology that s as old and bigotry itself. people lambasted him of bigotry. those who oppose racism are no better than those racist themselves. he has not suffered the consequences for that. paul ryan and mitch mcconnell, they stood by and allowed trump to go full blast of this and not saying any words. the republicans in this country is reprehenceable. and you have omarosa turned political aid, a white house official. this is what she writes in her new memoir. we gotten a copy here. three sources in three separate conversations had described the contents of this tape, they all told me president trump had not just dropped a single n word bomb, he said it multiple times throughout the show s taping particularly during the first season of the apprentice. moments ago we got words from sarah sanders, this book is riddled with lies and false accusations. how worried are the white house about this? they are wor they re worried about the book after all. they ll see omarosa will be recounting at her time at the white house and about being fired from the fire house. there could be more to come. it is a concern of the white house if this narrative takes hold and as she portrays president trump being racist and being unfit for the job of president. remember a year ago when michael wolf s book fi fire and fury ce out, that was a troubling period for the white house, they spent as few weeks to speak back the narrative and i don t think they did successfully. they would be in the same situation of omarosa s book. they have been trying to keep the president from tweeting about it. i got to ask you phil, what do you think the chances are the president after some point after she goes on meet the press on sunday and today show that he will not stop tweeting about it. phil ruck chances are i don t think he ll be able to refuse himself. phil rucker and michael. thank you. thank you on msnbc will share a story a man dedicating his life to helping others, watch breaking hate at 9:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. we ll continue this conversation throughout the hour including a humanitarian crisis. a federal judge made a plan to turn around and stop deportation and sharply criticized president trump s ill congratulatimmigrat. major developments in the trump s campaign trial. we are watching an unusual recessing in court right now. what s going on? 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we are in about 2.5 hours recess. a few times both parties did approach the bench and talked to the judge. he called about an hour recess and came back and asked the jury a few questions and went on a 2.5 hours recess. the question he asked the jury are important though. he asked over and over again, are you sure you are following my instructions not to talk to each other or anyone else about this case. they said yes. he continued to repeat that advice. a few people start to speculate, could there be a juror that s tampered with and did not follow instructions. with this, you should be able to have a long lunch, it is not something he would do if he s going to individually question these jurors. i saw manafort s legal team across the street and they just smiled and of course, they could not comment. if reheaded to a mistri we ar to a mistrial, everyone would gather. everyone seems to be qualm. something unexpected came up in another case on this judge s do docket. he did say i have other cases besides yours. it could be something important that judge alex is handling. if they move to a witness when we reconvene, that s it. it seems like we are moving ahead as normal. if there is something else we ll be running out of the court and telling you immediately. i have no doubt about that. it is interesting those statements were made are you sure you are following my instructions and obviously there is some level of concerns about whether or not they are not. what do you make of this recess, do you think it is likely something just as simple given the demeanor of the legal team, nothing more than he had done? this is a judge who said over and over hurry up, let s go and let s go. and so to tape an extended recess is very unusual and then to repeat the instruction os of the jury. are you talking to yourself? o i think somebody reported whether the court s circuit court officers that one of the jurors have had some conversations or said something that lead them to say hey, i got to report this to the judge. oh boy, while we wait again. they re supposed to come back about 25 minutes from now, anna. i want to ask you about the manhattan adam, testifying right now. she s a close ally. she was handling his scheduling and he would deck tate e-mails to her and she was the gate keeper to roger stone. what she tells me that she was not doing this in those key perio periods leading up to the election. prosecutors think she got something extremely interesting to say. she met with prosecutors and rushed to a full week later before speaking to the grand jury. they want to lock her in and get her testimonies on the record. things are moving quickly of this grand jury. what do you make of that and what do you think may be happening here? just when you thought this case could not get any stranger or bizarre. and the manhattan madame. and i agree with the analysis, listen, they ju just - the mueller team just eninte interviewed her last week voluntarily and came in on her own. they re putting her in the grand jury this week. she says something and she provided some information that they do want to lock in under oath in the grand jury, they re moving very, very fast which in my view is unusual for this kind of case. i believe it is something certainly important in what is a russia collusion probe. all right, guy, anna, and thank you to both of you. julie ainsley keep us posted on the manafort s recess. we are waiting to hear. we ll talk about the immigration crisis, a judge ordered a plane carrying a deported mother and daughter to salvador to turn around. immigration actions did not stop there. he threatened to hold jeff sessions in contentive court.mh sessions in contentive court.oh sessions in contentive court.he sessions in contentive court.he sessions in contentive courtivp. what s the #1 new skincare product in 2018? 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is this by design or bad planning. remember a large part of donald trump s campaign had to do with some of the earlier policies of his administration and had to do with immigration. it is one of the big legal frontiers that his administration have been trying to advance on behalf of supporters. that was the whole travel ban case is about. that s partly of what this case is about. whether or not the department of justice can be compelled to present a plan that s able and finally resolve the matter of these families. one of the recent conflicts in court that the aclu should take the role. the judge was not digging that. no, you created this, you need to fix this. it is by design in a sense. the question is whether or not the design was simply to separate the family and the government ever contemplated. tlas plhere is a plan now. they said this was supposed to be deterrent. they were not shy, they said they hope this would keep people coming from the country and now we have a situation, jacob of more than 2500 children were separated and 559 of them are not with their parents, 365 parents with children are deported and out of the country. what are the chances that these 559 kids ever get back with their moms or dads? well, the most challenging scenario here are the 365 that we know already deported. the government said yesterday they have no idea where 26 of them are. no contact information. today somehow what number is down to five. let s just put in perspective here. there was no plan and there would not have been a plan had the judge had not ordered to be a plan for the government to reunite the remaining, what it originally would have called ineligible children and parents. the vast majority of those folks were and are, i guess ineligible because they have been kicked out of the country before the unification were able to happen. you got four different cabinet level agencies, department of homeland security and department of justice and as well as the state department who are involved trying to get these folks all back together. we should hear later today in a court hearing exactly how they plan to do that. two months after we got inside the facility there in brownsville, i am not going to hold my breath that this is going to happen in a rapid scale. or logical or non-chaotic. one immigration issue, joshua that has been on the mind of the president and he s been tough on it is what he calls, chain migration, it is family based migration. let me just remind people what he has said about that. chain migration is one of the disasters. chain migration is a disaster. a disaster. a total disaster, we have to end chain migration. we have to end it. so we bring this up of course, joshua because yesterday the parents of first lady melania trump became citizen of this country. they came through the system known as family you know occasiunification, that s the same system that the president wants to end. first of all, congratulations to be the united states citizen. . it is a matter where he s quite the beneficiary. in the scheme of things the chain migration thing is more of a political talking point as you play the tapes at rallies. as if there is no hypocrisy and having your in-laws goi going by the way, normally this is done on a friday, they went in privately on a thursday and got here citizenship and legally and we congratulated them and welcome to this country. i think they re 72 years old or 74 years old. seems like nice people. while he s saying no, that s not the way it should be and i wonder jacob because you re talking to these folks all the time, what is the reaction been on the ground for people who are fighting this battle every single day to see this incredible disconnect? . it is just a series of continual disconnect. the president says one thing and does another regards to family unifications as they referred to it. same thing of what s happening down the border, the president has the perception and talking point of what he says down on the border, it is a constant war zone and drugs are pouring in. we know none of that is the case at least in the way that he represents it. and, you know again it is just time after time the perception of the president, the statements from the president verses the reality of what life is like down on the border or with the immigration system are not in line. that s just simple as it is. jacob soboroff, i know you will keep us posted on the mom her daughter. joshua johnson, thank you so much for being on the program. thanks chris. we are watching the courthouse in alexandria where manafort s trial is in that unusual recess. we ll keep you posted on what we learn why this recess happened. and democrats are not backing nancy pelosi. the best way to show your opposition for the president, vote for a democrat, we got the debate. .by just calling or going online to geico.com. 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(harmonica interrupts) everytime. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. . right now we are keeping a close house in alexandria, of the trial of paul manafort s. this is an unusual recess according to legal officials. we got a note from our producer if the court. he says at the beginning of the recess, the judges clerk came in and grabbed a jury board, it is a big board that the court uses to call the roll. no word of what the recess is about. this recess should be over in about five minutes and we are reminding folks that the report we got julia ainsley, he was reminding jurors if they are following instructions which means they don t talk outside the case. meantime, nancy pelosi, is facing a civil war of her own. more than 50 democrat candidates who now say they would pose pelosi as house speaker. here they are. let s take a look. 51 candidates, nine or incumbents already in the house and running for election. the other 42 are newcomers. nominees who have not yet served in the house. it is happening of an already ominous speaker. she s the favorite punching bag for republicans running for congress. take a look. for vote for paul davis is a vote for nancy pelosi. after lying the whole campaign, dishonest, ocon scribner admits he voted for pelosi. thank you, nancy pelosi and connor lamb are still opposing your tax cuts. lamb called it a complete portrayal. pelosi says this is arm armageden. joining me now, our former director of the new york state, baas si basil. all those that race is too close to call. there was this reason nbc and wall street journal poll, nearly half of us are less likely to support a congressional candidate who backs pelosi for house speaker. is this a real problem? it is definitely a problem if you are running and you saw what happened to joe crowley and you are like all of what we thought was happening could happen, the paradigm have shifted now. if i am nancy pelosi, i would say you can run against me if you want, i am the punching back, i am used to it. what happens is how you get there. if there is no credible contender to her and all of this sort of kind of watch away and it happened in the past and she has political retribution on people who challenged her. if i am her, if you need to run against me to win, go ahead and do it. shermichael, if this is what you need to win, go ahead, run against me. you will need 218 votes. 50 is not 218. having said that, is this an effective strategy on the republica republican side? no. absolutely. any time nancy s pelosi pelosi mentioned, it worked. a lot of people believe that nancy pelosi is some what detached from many of their values and a lot of republicans go back to the affordable care act and if we pass a bill, we ll fine out what s in it. let me ask you this, does it matter what the person they are running against thinks of new eastern span nancy pelosi? does that stop you from running against her? well, no, i personally don t think so, i think on the democratic side, they have to do what conner lamb did in pennsylvania. they have to run races that are targeted of their congressional district. as we saw with cortez, that message does no t resonate with a lot of portions of america. pelosi, she s well-liked. people think she s a good organizer and she s been in the leadership since 2007 and broken a lot of barriers. she raised nearly $660 million for democrats since 2002 when you can make the argument who s there to replace her, right? right. so maybe is the concern about, you got a big step first, are the democrats going to win the house? if they do, is a threat to nancy pelosi is over stated? i think it is. if we win the house, i think she will be fine. if we don t win then i would think she s in trouble there. a lot of it depends on who s contending for r tthe seat. if joe crowley was there or king jeffery, i don t know if he s running against really talente folks coming through. do you know that? i don t know that. there are talented people waiting in the wings. if we lose this house, she s in real jeopardy. basil, it is good to see you. shermichael, thank you. we don t know what it is and we know some actions have taken place in the last couple of hours or so of the manafort s trial. we are trying to figure out is this something significant of this trial, we ll have it for you. still to come, the only way for republicans to save the gop is to defeat the gop. what that may mean for the midterms in november. believe that something s got a hold on me, yeah oh, it must be love oh, something s got a hold on me right now, child oh, it must be love let me tell you now, oh it must be love medicare will pay for. what s left. this slice here. well. that s on you. and that s where an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company comes in. this type of plan helps pay some of what medicare doesn t. and these are the only plans to carry the aarp endorsement. that s because they meet their high standards of quality and service. wanna learn more? 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republicans should vote for democrats in the house, but remain loyal to republicans in their senate races. he writes, house democrats, quote, will be a check on the president without becoming a threat to his best policies. the tax cut will stand. the senate will still approve conservative judges. but the house will conduct real oversight hearings and expose both russian influence and administration corruption. back with me, sher michael singleton and basel schmeichel. the struggle is? it s real, it s real. would you advocate voting for a democrat? absolutely, i agree with everything that was written in that column. really? yes. i ll tell you why. there is a reason there is a separation of brar separation of branches. we do not have a king in the white house, although donald trump would like to see himself as one. some leaders of certain committees in the house believe there is a king? again, that is a problematic. there is a naacp poll released i believe this past tuesday that indicated, and they looked at 61 competitive districts that indicated an overwhelming majority of african-americans, hispanics and asia americans belief the president is inciting race relations. you thought ohio 12 was competitive. imagine the direction of many of those districts. it s not going to look good for republicans. so i agree. it s worth risk losing the house, i would say, and maintaining the senate so that there can be that check on the white house, which is what the founding fathers intended. yes, they did intend that. there is no doubt about it. let me make the counterargument, because basel is nodding. the counterargument is this. i think especially for two men of color who are still fighting, right, fighting every single day for the right for people of color to be able to go to the polls freely and the way that also the founding fathers intended are suggesting that you don t vote necessarily for the person that you think is the best person on the ballot. if you are not in one of those districts where you have one of those republicans who is doing everything the president wants him to do, is not doing their constitutionally mandated job, but it s somebody who is a legit man or woman who is doing a good job, who you like, and/or you really don t like the democrat, are you really suggesting, would you suggest the reverse that they not vote for that person? you know, from a democratic standpoint, no, i would suggest they vote for a democrat because it is, to me, my party is a party of social and economic justice. i would say, yes, for all the things that communities of color care about is the democratic party that has the answer. i would say it with this caveat. i think if the democrats are going to be more successful than we think we can be in this midterm election, we actually don t necessarily need to just drill down to our base, that we can actually win independents, win over republicans who are dissatisfied with their president. and ohio 12. the votes are going to be really, really important. the suburbs are becoming more diverse with this political osmosis. they care about taxation, governens. they care about the social justice issues in ways perhaps they didn t a generation ago. there is a lot more opportunity, i think, for democrats to expand their vote where for the republicans perhaps not. are we maybe even just talking about this because, frankly, the blue wave is real, the republicans are not going to hold the house, and even if some republicans decide to do what michael gerson suggests, it s not going to change the equation anyway? history is clearly on the side of democrats. i want to state this as a republican. the demographic changes in our country are very, very real, and they are not on the side of my party for a very, very long time. the republican party has struggled to target and mobilize african-americans and hispanics. after mitt romney and reince priebus, we did the growth in opportunity project where we promised to spend millions of dollars targeting the same groups donald trump is marginalizing with his retic. i m looking at 2020 and beyond. it does not look good for republicans in a more browning america. thank you, guys. have a great weekend. appreciate it. we ll be right back. waiting for that update from the manafort trial recess. you might take something for your heart. or joints. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. are you ready to take your then you need xfinity xfi.? a more powerful way to stay connected. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it s the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. basil and that wraps up this hour of msnbc live. i m chris jansing. katy tur, tgif. not yet for you? not yet. i got two hours. don t jump the gun too early. thank you very much. it s 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in virginia. today in the paul manafort trial the judge abruptly halted proceedings and called for and a lengthy unscheduled recess. it s unclear why he did that.
working for stone in 2010. in august 2017 she took over as stone s scheduler, but she says she did not work for him during the 2016 presidential election. kristin davis is a good friend of mine. she is a brilliant woman who has paid her debt to set. she was not working for me during 2015. she worked for me during a portion of 2016. she went back to school to learn i.t. skills. she has helped me build some websites. she has no knowledge whatsoever of any russian collusion, collaboration with wikileaks, or anything else having to do with the 2016 election. stone is not only under suspicion, but might be a target of the special counsel s investigation. already mueller s team has interviewed two people close to trump s long-time confidant. a third was held in contempt for refusing to comply with a subpoena. ari melber broke the news last Katy Tur hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. jail, or ask for a stay pending an appeal by a appellate court to test whether or not the summons was correct or not. sometimes a subpoena is overbroad, sometimes it asks for material that s privileged. i would think he wouldn t be held in contempt unless he had no basis for it. we keep going back to roger stone and this is our lead story because this is something that keeps coming up with the mueller investigation. what does stone have to do with the russia investigation. and from what we have been able to piece together is that from other witnesses who have been interviewed by the special counsel s team and the reporting that we have done is that it could be that mueller s team is seeing stone as a back channel to julian assange, to wikileaks, and whether or not he knew about the emails that wikileaks was going to lease before they released them. after all he sweeted it will soon tweeted it will be john podesta s time in the barrel. it was john podesta s time in the barrel. extension. wikileaks is believed to be that organization. stone is kept surfacing as a predictor of what was the information to come and the guccifer 2.0 account was cited in there. that was openly available information. that is not really clear is which of these people or which of these things are coming up. so the manhattan madam, what did she have in terms of access? she knows timeline. she can help corroborate that. she knows communications and she may know finances. it could be about other associates she saw and you would want to confirm the timelines, especially when you are dealing with the wikileaks issue. who is randy cred co? an activist in new york. he has been involved with politics. he does impersonations of people on phones. he used to go on the albany show all the time with the new york post guy. what does he have to do with roger stone? roger claimed that he was his conduit or he was his contact for who gave him information in germs of julian assange or wikileaks and what was going to be released. i was asked about their relationship. it came in 2013 when we were going to use kristin davis to run as a libertarian comptroller against eliot spitzer. she got arrested, so we couldn t continue. he was a subject. what was interesting from what you were saying is they specifically asked me, what do you know about roger and donald trump? how often they communicated? let s say at that time late in the fall, to which i gave them some information i knew that was never asked in the grand jury. they didn t need it on the record. interesting. sam nunberg, anna schechter, clint watts. stay tuned. john flannery, we have more questions for you basil breaking news in the paul manafort trial as we said up top. the court was scheduled to reconvene a couple minutes ago after an abrupt and unexpected recess this morning. the prosecution was expected to rest its case today, but then judge t.s. ellis halted proceedings and ordered the jury to return at 1:45. it is now 2:12. we are waiting for an up jat from our reporters in the courtroom. john, given your experience in matters like these, what s going on in your estimation? why would a judge halt proceedings so abruptly? well, there are two paths here. one is what was said by the judge in court as reported. there was a 15-minute recess in which they talked with both defense and prosecution on a sidebar with white sound being pumped through the courtroom. and then he said that he had to take two hours. he being the judge, judge ellis. he said that he had other matters pending that he had to take care of. that didn t sound true to me because he s been pushing this trial to go forward and the government would rest today. so it doesn t make sense to me that he wouldn t have scheduled that before the regular court date for this trial. there is also a report that he asked for the roll of the jurors. that makes it sound like there is a question about one of the jurors and maybe that juror or jurors is being questioned about what other contacts they may have had or what information they may have gotten that is prescribed against being received by any juror during the trial. there is also a strong instruction to the jurors when he told them they were going to have a recess until about 20 minutes ago, which is now extended, as you noted, and the instruction was whatever you do, don t talk about the case, don t deal with anyone, and that s a usual instruction, but those in the courtroom apparently thought it was very stern. the question of juror misconduct usually starts with an interview of the juror, if that s what happened, and that can be a lengthy process and there can be a question of who else one spoke with and so forth. again, that s a speculation. but it seems to fit more likely why we ve had this recess than other explanations like he had to handle other cases. and just one other thing. there was a sidebar discussion between the lawyers and the judge a little bit earlier today that the prosecution wanted to get sealed. the judge agreed to seal the sidebar discussion. it concerned some of rick gates testimony, and it seems indicate, it points us to, and tell me if i m wrong, but it seems to point that rick gates testimony could be about other things he said about the larger russia investigation. exactly. and whether there was any coordination with the trump campaign. the question was put by the defense. it s interesting. the defense didn t want any reference to the campaign or trump. the judge basically ruled that that would be the case. then the defense on cross of gates asked him whether or not he had testified in cooperation with mr. mueller about the campaign, and that s when it was objected to by the prosecution. then they went and had the sidebar, and that s when, as a result of that sidebar at the end of it, the prosecution asked to seal the entire matter and there were no further questions and he wasn t permitted, as i understand it, to answer in the courtroom whether or not he had given testimony. and it s kind of interesting because gates may have had some contact with stone. we have other witnesses that may be in a position to testify about contacts with stone. so this may or not we ll know sometime soon, i suspect, after the manafort trial, what the connections are. we can guess that mr. x is mr. gates and so forth. plainly, he has been cooperating with the campaign. that makes sense. he was working with the trump transition period as well. so he carries on after manafort was not involved in the campaign and was not involved in the transition. very true. john flannery. john, thank you very much. thank you. up next, donald trump s former white house aide and long-time associate now says that donald trump is a racist. 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well, katy, i think not to correct you, i think that was his statement about charlottesville. that s the tweet on the anniversary of charlottesville to continue to play the race politics of the nfl and to go after these athletes who, the last time i checked, as we ve beat this horse many times, know have a constitutional right to express their views in that setting. so i think the president did respond to charlottesville through his tweet this morning, and it again is not, you know, a dog whistle or a bullhorn. it s all kinds of noise, but the fact of the matter is it plays to a base response that he wants to illicit, that gives him comfort and they are comfortable with the folks who love those tweets. zerlina? i agree. i think the base of the republican party right now or some of the folks in the base of the republican party are very tolerant of racism. that is the state that we are in right now as a country. charlottesville was a flashpoint for this country. after charlottesville, if you stayed on the side of supporting donald trump, after he said that there were very fine people standing among nazis, then you picked a side. you stood on the side of the line where you said nazis are perfectly fine with me. and i think that every single time donald trump says something that could be considered racist or is racist, we have a responsibility as citizens to call it out because there are actual consequences in the real world. neil wilson as a young woman, a young african-american woman killed in oakland, california on public transportation allegedly by a white nationalist, and i think that when violence is happening in the real world to black and brown people as a result of some of this rhetoric, we have to call it out. we have a responsibilities. talking to people who stayed in the administration after that, after donald trump said these things about charlottesville, i double checked to find out when exactly omarosa was fired from the white house or left the white house, depending who you believed, and it s december of 2017. that s quite a while after, michael, what happened in charlottesville. yet, today she is coming out and claiming it was uncomfortable for her to be there and she had to take a stand or she is claiming that this in book. what do you make of this? hashtag not credible. you know, can we just not please, let s not go down this rabbit hole, people. i am not buying the, oh my god, woe is me, this was horrible when it was made very clear to us by omarosa that those of us who were repeld by this president s behavior, his words and actions would bow down to him. my question to her is, are you now bowing down to him? the rest of us who have a problem with this, which you now seem to have, we were told this would be the consequence. i am not buying this. it s about book sales. it s about being close to the president. it wouldn t surprise me if she and the president have worked out it reality tv production and this is all just nor traumore d b.s. to distract us from the real narratives eat agent this country on race, on economy, on health care, and certainly, you know, everything else. i just i m not playing this. sorry. let s play omarosa in that front line interview that you referenced. it aired in september of 2017. i can tell you, because i was involved in it, it was taped in the fall right after the election. so it was at least taped right after the election. here s what omarosa said about president trump. every critic, every detractor will have to bow down to president trump. it s everyone who has ever doubted donald, whoever disagreed, whoever challenged him. it is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe. i mean, i think it s ironic that today we are like omarosa said donald trump is a racist as if what he says in private he hasn t also been saying in public where we can see it for the past few years. he started as a birther. he said the central park five deserved the death penalty. it s not a mystery he is racist. omarosa is saying what we all know is not really breaking news. she is validating it. and as for those tapes, i have to say people have heard whispers people have been talking about the existence of these tapes. i think people have been tweeting about the existence of these tapes and demanding that mark burnett release them for many years. this is not new reporting. it s not new stuff that s out there. nobody has heard these tapes. nobody has gone on the record with their name saying, i have heard this tape, i have heard the president say these things. omarosa is now just talking about second-hand knowledge here. something else. moving on from omarosa. let s go to fox news. let s play, first off, what laura ingraham said the other night about the changing demographics in this country. because in some parts of the country it does seem like the america that we know and love doesn t exist anymore. massive demographic changes have been foisted upon the american people, and they are changes that none of us ever voted for and most of us don t like from virginia to california. we see stark examples of how radically in some ways the country has changed. now, much of this is related to both illegal and in some cases legal immigration that, of course, progressives love. i m going to give that to you first. i think we have to stop pretending this is not racism. this is plain, you know, open and out there racism. she is talking about race. when she is using the word demographic shift or the words demographic shift, she is talking about the racial makeup of this country and the fact that in a few years we are going to be a majority brown country. white people will not be the majority in the country anymore, and the folks that are not comfortable with that are consuming fox and it s dangerous what she is saying. there is violence happening to black and brown people in the real world. i have a new clip in a moment. i am going to take a brief pause. we have news in the paul manafort trial. michael and zerlina, stick with us basil that breaking news in the paul manafort trial. nbc news national security and justice reporter julia ainsley has just left the courtroom. what s been going on? reporter: so, katy, we just got out of a three and a half hour recess only to come back and have the judge say, please bring your next witness. this is incredibly unusual because it was seen as there was a issue with a jury. over this recess the sergeant-at-arms was seen going to the zwrjury chamber, bringin them to the judge s chambers. we have seen the court reporter. there will be transcripts of what happened come out later. we were preparing for a possible mistrial. we were just scrambling out here to give you the news to find they have called their next witness, dennis ricoh. he was on the schedule to go before the jury. he worked at the federal savings banks, which gave a $16 million loan to paul manafort. so the key here now is to see if one of those jurors has been dismissed. i was not in a position where i could see how many came in at the time. we are going to see if maybe perhaps an alternate there were four alternates in the case who might have swapped in with one of the 12 main jurors. one thing that the judge said today before we left for this long recess was to remind them at least three times not to talk amongst themselves or with anyone from the outside about this case. of course, that s hard to do because there is so much coverage of this case and there are so many high opinions of it because of paul manafort s relationship to the trump campaign. that s what we have for now. we will be looking at that as we go. come back out if you have any updates. appreciate it. and now let s go back to zerlina and michael. i want to get one more beat on this conversation about race and play that fox news clip i teased a moment ago. here is something from fox this morning. a hispanic guest saying that dems have to import illegal immigrants to vote for them, and also addressing black population growth. watch. a lot of people in the black community are recognizing that the democrat party is throwing them overboard for illegal aliens because what do you mean? well, the democrat party has been so good at promoting abortion inside of the black community, has been so good about curtailing the population in the black community, it s no longer a growing demographic in this country as compared to the rest of the country. so the democrats see their future of importing illegal aliens from all over the world into this country and those in the black community here in the united states are witnessing the democrat party chucking them overboard. michael, what s going on at fox news? i have no idea. i thought you would pass that one to zerlina. i mean, that was a meeting apparently i was not at. so, zerlina, i don t know if he had a meeting we don t know about. all of a sudden this is happening in our community? look, this is the level of crazy that we are in right now. we are in a reality tv space. every moment of the day is another episode of someone coming out speaking from a part of their body that the sun never reaches, and i think that s important for us to give context to this and understand that this is gibberish. there is a demographic shift occurring in this country. on a conservative level, 2043 is the turning point. i predict it will probably be a little bit earlier where you have a black and hispanic, black and brown united states. there are a lot of white folks inside and outside my party, inside and outside the democratic party, americans who are not happy about that prospect. this is the kind of crazy you get when people aren t happy. okay. we are going to move on to one other topic. we are going to talk about congress. to do that i want to bring in nbc political reporter alley vitale. my cohort on the campaign trail in 2016. she is back on the road covering the midterms. there is a lot of drama within the democratic party maybe drama is an inflated word for this. but there is talk about nancy pelosi and whether or not nancy pelosi should remain as leader, and if it comes to that, speaker of the house if the democrats are able to retake control. nbc news has done a survey and counted more than 50 democratic candidates who oppose pelosi as the leader. nine of them are incumbents. we know there have been an onslaught of gop ads against a number of democrats running for congress in the midterms trying to link them with her. nancy pelosi is a gop bogey man. what s going on? that s exactly right. i mean, it s not the first time we have seen republicans use this strategy of pegging every democrat in the field to nancy pelosi because to the average voter who doesn t spend all day watching cable news they have to pick the least common denominator of who do people associate with the democratic brand. as much as this is a republican tactic to trot out nancy pelosi to push voters back into the conservative camp, you are seeing in a lot of these red to blue districts that the dccc is trying to bring back into the fold, it s candidates who know if they take a position either way, yes, republicans will jump on them, but it s also kind of hard for democrats to say i m a first-time politician, i m running for the first time, sfroert me, and we are going to keep the same leadership we have had. as much as it s a republican thing, the challenge has been that it s from the left, it s from folks like alexandria ocasio-cortez who said she didn t want to vote for pelosi, now says she is willing to vote for her as an option. so it s a really interesting trend. maybe drama is not the right word. it s something percolating and it could become a little bit more dramatic closer to november. is it because pelosi is part of the old guard and they want fresh faces? is it because she is so good at raising none and there is a push back in taking money from super pc pacs, cleaning out politics? or because the gop have her to run against and they use it when they can as successful, i don t know, a baton as they can make it? i think it s a combination of all of those things. the attacks on nancy pelosi and hillary clinton, too, i call this is the who does she think she is rule of american politics. you think it s because she is a woman? yes. not only because she s a woman. i m not saying that all of the criticism of nancy pelosi is because she s a woman, but a lot of the criticism is because she was a successful speaker. she did not put any bills on the floor that did not pass. john boehner and paul ryan cannot say that. the fact that she is a very effective whipper of the votes, she always has a couple in her back pocket, makes sure that the legislation she puts on the floor is definitely successful. i think young ambitious men, they are the most outspoken in terms of their criticism of nancy pelosi. i think we have to speak truth to power when we re talking about women in leadership positions and ambitious women and how we critique them in a different way we do men in the same position. michael, what are your thoughts? and i like to agree with zerlina. my take away is this key thing, having done battle with nancy pelosi directsly in 2009 and 2010 is she is effective. she is effective as hell. she is a very competent politician and, you know, i think a lot of democrats who underestimate her ability to work her will on that caucus are going to be sitting there with a lot of egg on their face come january of next year as they vote her in as the next speaker, if she wants it. that s the thing that s going to be really the most important part of this narrative, is if nancy pelosi decides, yes, she wants to finish the job that she has started when she was speaker under this particular president. then it will be a battle royale because she will not go nicely into that good night. she is from baltimore. she is from a very, very powerful and strong political family from back in the day. she learned well the art craft of politics. you saw, to zerlina s point, she worked it magically to get everything she wanted done, done. republicans can t say that. even democrats before her can t say that. so you cannot take away her effectiveness. if she wants it, she will get it. thank you for setting it up for us. always good to see you. lonely on the campaign trail without you. don t worry. you will see me again soon. michael steele, zerlina maxwell, thank you for knocking all the pins down for us. we covered every topic in the last 15 minutes. thank you, guys. up next, why a federal judge threatened to hold attorney general jeff sessions in contempt. i was just finishing a ride. i felt this awful pain in my chest. i had a pe blood clot in my lung. i was scared. i had a dvt blood clot. having one really puts you in danger of having another. my doctor and i chose xarelto®. xarelto®. to help keep me protected. xarelto® is a latest-generation blood thinner that s. proven to treat and reduce the risk of dvt or pe blood clots from happening again. in clinical studies, almost 98% of patients on xarelto® did not experience another dvt or pe. xarelto® works differently. warfarin interferes with at least 6 of your body s natural blood-clotting factors. xarelto® is selective, targeting just one critical factor. don t stop taking xarelto® without talking to your doctor, as this may increase risk of blood clots. while taking, you may bruise more easily, or take longer for bleeding to stop. xarelto® can cause serious, and in rare cases, fatal bleeding. it may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. get help right away for unexpected bleeding or unusual bruising. do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. before starting, tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures and any kidney or liver problems. learn all you can. to help protect yourself from another dvt or pe. talk to your doctor about xarelto®. i ve been making blades here at gillette for 20 years. there s a lot of innovation that goes into making america s #1 shave. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. now starting at $7.99. gillette. the best a man can get. but he has plans today.ain. hey dad. so he took aleve. if he d taken tylenol, he d be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong. these are the specialists we re proud to call our own. experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. expert medicine works here. learn more at cancercenter.com but if something happened to you. you need life insurance! and chances are selectquote can get it for you for under a dollar a day! selectquote found michael, 38, a $500,000 policy for under $23 a month. selectquote found anna, 37, a $750,000 policy for under $22 a month. selectquote s secret? 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is it going to come to jeff sessions actually being held in contempt, and what it should. it should. katy, this is i m stunned. absolutely stunned, as somebody that worked for the justice department for 35 years, been involved in the field for 45 years. the level of disrespect for the judiciary, the unprofessionalism of the department of justice attorneys and the just plain stupidity of the litigation strategy under jeff sessions is simply stunning. now, i ll tell you that when i was the general counsel of the old ins, we had a few instances where, by mistake, somebody who was under a stay got put on an airplane. you go in there. you basically get on your knees. you tell the judge, judge, i m so sorry, it s going to be taken care of, we apologize. i ll tell my clients not to do that. you know, these attorneys go in and basically, judge, you know, it s not your problem. i am stunned. because they are doing it and they are shrugging their shoulders, as you just said, what happens after that? what recourse do the judges have to hold the government accountable for this beyond what they are already doing? well, i think judge sullivan just showed you. i think i actually think judges have been remarkably tolerant. the judge in the separation of families case. basically, the justice department took an in your face position of, judge, you find them. and the judge, you know, has worked to try to get you know, told the government to find them. but that s in in your face position. i think sessions should definitely be held in contempt, and ultimately he can go to jail. that s exactly where he belongs. wow. jacob soboroff, what happens next? let s me say judge sullivan in the case in washington and then judge zabra in the southern look, i knew nothing about immigration law and immigration cases and what happened in federal court before i saw these kids locked up in cages. judge sabra is the reason these children are being reunited in the first place. the government never had a plan. the aclu brought this case out here in california and the judge basically said, where is the plan? 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what s the u.s. doing in yemen? well, it was the arab spring and yemen fell into chaos, various factions started fighting each other. the houthis, which are aligned with iran, took over the capital. saudis and the emirates didn t like that so they wanted to fight the houthis, and the u.s. at that time, the obama administration, was trying to keep the saudis happy as it was putting together the iran deal so it reluctantly signed on for this adventure. at this point, it s just gotten worse and worse and worse. what was supposed to be an effort to get the houthis out of the capital of yemen that was supposed to take a few months has now dragged on, as matt bradley pointed out, for three years. i get that. but why is the u.s. directly involved in this fight? why does the u.s. see it as a necessary for our troops to be out there? well, i mean unfortunately it s become sort of part of this almost soviet-era style proxy war between the united states and iran. so because the houthis have gotten closer and closer to iran and to tehran and hezbollah, the u.s. feels it s sort of incumbent on itself to support the effort to fight it. you have a very poor country in yemen that doesn t have a lot of resources. one thing that s very important about it is that it abuts a very narrow stretch of water through which a very large chunk of the world s oil supplies go through. and so in a sense, it s a war over a very important strategic piece of territory in the middle east that the u.s. feels is important. so the u.s. says it was not involved in this. the washington post is reporting on the nature of u.s. involvement in general in support of saudi arabia in yemen and they report the u.s. is helping the coalition. the only party in the conflict to use warplanes with refueling, intelligence and billions in weapons sales. the coalition mostly uses u.s. and british-made fighter jets. human rights groups and washington post journalist seen remnants of u.s.-made bombs at attack sites where civilians were struck. the u.s. as of now i think cannot say, and correct me if i m wrong on this, but cannot say whether they made the bomb that hit this school bus, but heather nauert, spokesperson for the state department, was asked about this and whether or not the u.s. would rethink its support for saudi arabia in yemen after this attack which killed so many kids. she s called for an investigation and said that they are concerned. borzou, what do you make of that? well, at this point, katy, the details that you mention i think are important but almost beside the point. the trump administration is so close to the saudis and the emirates, it seems to be you can t really distinguish where one country s policy ends and where the other begins. you know, we basically through almost happenstance without really planning it have gotten into bed with this whole war and it s really hard to get out at this point. ugly things are happening. the war is getting uglier. you have maggie michaels of the associated press has been reporting on these horrendous human rights abuses allegedly at the hands of our allies in yemen. we re very close to the emirates and close to the saudis politically. there s no criticism of anything that saudi arabia does at this point in the region. so it really, i think, hurts the u.s. image, it makes the u.s. seem like it s hypocrites condemning certain wars but not condemning others. condemning certain human rights abuses but not others, and it makes it a very, very tough position for u.s. diplomats who are trying to explain the u.s. position abroad as well as in other contexts. here s what the pentagon told vox. we may never know if the munition used was one that the u.s. sold to them. another pentagon spokesperson said the u.s. central command was not involved in the air strike in saada. thank you very much for joining us today, we appreciate it. we ll be right back. the line between work and life hasn t just blurred. it s gone. that s why you need someone behind you. not just a card. an entire support system. whether visiting the airport lounge to catch up on what s really important. or even using those hard-earned points to squeeze in a little family time. no one has your back like american express. so no matter where you re going. we re right there with you. the powerful backing of american express. don t do business without it. don t live life without it. if yor crohn s symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn t worked well enough, it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn s. entyvio works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both symptom relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain infection caused by a virus may be possible. this condition has not been reported with entyvio. tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio. if your uc or crohn s treatment isn t working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach.
that is our show for today. hi to the kendrick clan in south carolina. at the family barbecue. sorry i couldn t be here. that s it for am joy. richard lui has the latest. also, the kendrick clan jonathan. you ll invite me one day. you d love it down there. thank you, jonathan. i m richard lui in for alex witt on this saturday. here s what we re watching, charlottesville, one year later, the president tweeting the city under lock down. and new protests planned. what changed since those clashes. today, the city s mayor weighs in on that. and the white house is firing back over omarosa, her latest book. the moment we re living in is grave. the democratic party must be a party that fights fire with fire. we will make america decent again. stormy daniels attorney right there on why he is explores a 2020 presidential run. a stolen plane chased by military jets and then crashes into a small island. what the pilot told the control tower during that flight. we ll start this hour with breaking news. republican congressman chris collins who is charged with insider trading taking a dramatic step society, suspended his re-election bid. s in s white house correspondent kelly o connell is there with more. kelly, what do you know? of course, chris collins was the first member of congress to endorse candidate trump. it s sending repercussions throughout the republican party. collins maintains he s not guilty of the insider trading charges but has assessed his charges and the wider map of what republicans are facing with the election for members of congress just a couple of months away. so by suspending his campaign, he is stepping out of the way. and that will trigger a flurry of activity among republicans in new york 27 which stretches from buffalo to rochester, to give you an idea of where that s located, to try to find the right candidate to put on the ballot. this is a district that president trump won quite easily. so, this was a prime opportunity, for democrats, had call difference chosen to stay on the ballot, there could have been the kind of nationalization of that race to bring in lots of money and resources to help the democrat. and if that were to happen, of course, we know the margin democrats are looking for it. it looks like it s within reach. a double of dozen seats. and they ve got targets around the country and this one suddenly became a prime opportunity once the indictment happened on wednesday. to give you a sense of this, collins who initially said he would continue on has had time to reflect with his party. he said in part, democrats are laser focused on taking back the house, electing nancy pelosi speaker and then launching impeachment proceeding against president trump. after extensive discussions with my family and my friends over the last few days, i have decided it is within the best interests of the constitt wents of new york 27, the republican party and president trump s agenda for me to suspend my campaign for re-election to congress. he does intend to stay in congress for a while, not resigning his seat. but this sets off a scramble for republicans on what could be complicated this close to the election to remove the name from the ballot and get a new nominee on there. richard. thank you so much, kelly o connell with the latest on that breaking. let s bring in the white house correspondent for the washington examiner. around josh barrett, an msnbc contributor. josh, why now? why the change and what does this mean for the midterms and for the president? well, i think it may be reality setting in. the terms of this indictment for insider trading are just amazing and how brazen what representative collins is accused of doing is. i mean, literally being there on the white house lawn and calling his son, when the stalk is about to fall 90% when they learned the one drug they made is not going to be approved for use. so it sort of reads like an open and shut case. it s going to be very difficult for republicans to defend him. and really, he d gotten little from the party. after shock, i think it s clear to him and i suspect he got some nudging from top leaders in the party trying to push him out of here. while this district is a strongly republican district, it s not impossible for democrats. collins had just gotten re-elected. democrats have a serious candidate in this district, they re looking at this thinking they could beat collins because it s not that republican. it would be easy for a candidate not under indictment. the process of replacing a candidate in new york is especially byzantine and weird. and the ridiculous things you have to do to get off the ballot in new york. they re going to have to figure out how-f they want to replace him how to get off the ballot. old days of 20 or 30 points in a presidential election, you never know. gabby, reflect on that, why now? and what does it mean for the republicans and the president? he s liking facing pressure from the chairman of the national congressional committee who came out today and said he was pleased with this decision to suspend his re-election bid. obviously, republicans are battling an uphill bill to keep their house majority in november. and this is just one more potential race that could go for democrats if he had remained in. his opponent, nate mcmurray has already seen a surge in support since this indictment was first released. i think they re scrambling to find a have a yav viable candid replace collins who can carry that district and not give one more seat to democrats to take over the house. gabby, josh, starting off the sprint with us. thank you so much with that breaking news on chris collins. we ll be talking to you in a bit. also, we re watching this hour for, charlottesville, on lockdown, security preparations underway, many in place ahead of tomorrow that will mark one year since that tragic event was spurred by the white nationalists rally there. meanwhile, a short time ago, president trump did tweet about the deadly violence of a year ago. for more on this, nbc s kyle perry in charlottesville. rena shaw, and atima o mara. and we ll go to you first. yesterday, we saw the flashing lights, the cordon. you are saying it s very high in terms of security. what are you seeing now? reporter: yeah, maybe over the top, but over the top by design. you can hear the helicopter ahead of me. this is one of the check points behind me, that you have to cross. when i say unprecedented over-the-stop securiover over-the-top security, when you go down the road, you can see the statue of lee that sparked so much a year ago. police are telling people they do not want people to calm to charlottesville. there s a list banned, things included like bear spray. hairspray. it does not include guns. go ahead and look at the shift change. a lot of people are concerned that this open carry law in virginia is going to cause people and allow people to show their rights to second amendment. that could cause problems. the bottom line here, though, there is such a mass itcive presence. as you said, the president did tweet about the events of last year. probably and what happens the criticism that you ll hear is that he was making up for a lack of making a strong statement about what happened here. we ve got it up on the screen now. it will be interesting to see not only how things play out here, richard, as you know, the permits were rejected in charlottesville. they were granted in washington, d.c. probably all eyes will move north, richard. cal perry, thank you. eddie, start this off for us, we re watching the pictures together today. it seems calm. hundreds of officers are there as cal perry was telling us, what is the worst and best outcome and the president addressing the tension of a year ago? the worst outcome would be violence and the loss of life of heather heyer, we want to mention her name. the white nationalists gathering in d.c. and threatening charlottesville, shethese folkse just an exaggerated version of what we are in the nation. before we single themselves out as villains and find how do we make this possible we will find ourselves on the hamster wheel. atima, i want to play for you countries. is pretty much in mind with whole he is and making up for a half-hearted tweet of last year isn t going to make up for it. coincidentally, from spike lee, blackkklansman is opening up. let me tell you what he said. he hasn t said anything about the one-year anniversary. right. he hasn t said anything about heather heyer, who lost her life. so, it s another example of who this guy is. i mean, it s not even for debate anymore. we know who this guy is. so, we do know, we have the tweet from the president, looking one year on. is that enough, do you think, for those on the hamster wheel as our good friend eddie was describing it as? absolutely, one tweet is not enough. spike couldn t be more right. Alex Witt hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. express clear support for that thing. i think we re at a time where honest open conversation from this president and the comfort he s giving to bigots, we need to talk about that clearly and often. wbr id= wbr9790 /> eddie, i want to watch what laura ingraham was saying sthis country isn t what it was because of immigrants. and all that students and spies. it adds on and adds on. interesting thing, he comments about the nfl, players exercising their constitutional rights but he says nothing about the white nationals coming to washington, d.c. what laura ingraham said actually echoes what trump said in europe. they re exactly the same. what s driving this is the /b> democratic shouft iic shifts. more importantly in 2008 for the first time in the history. country, our president was elected without the majority of white people voting for him. and it fueled, it set off the fire. and ever since then, we have wbr-id= wbr10390 /> been grappling with this fact that there is a segment of this country who cannot accept that this is no longer a white nation in old europe, right? what you get is this emboldened or loud bigot, or loud racist, combined with the liberals. combine that with the conventionalism of american capitalism where people are busting their behinds. and trump sits right in the sweet spot. and we re focusing on the loud bigots but we don t understand the transformational changes happening underneath that s driving all of this. trying to understand two simultaneous phenomenons in front of us. right in front of us. the stolen plane and the fiery crash that enenshsued fro this. what the pilot told the control tower until his last moment. next. but so began the year of me. i discovered the true meaning of paperless discounts. and the indescribable rush of saving drivers an average of $620. why does fear feel so good? i fell in love three times once with a woman, once with a country, and finally. with myself. -so, do you have anything to declare or not? -isn t that what i m doing? i m ray and i quit smoking with chantix. i tried cold turkey, i tried the patch. they didn t work for me. i didn t think anything was going to work for me until i tried chantix. chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. i needed that to quit. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking or allergic and skin reactions which can be life-threatening. stop chantix and get help right away if you have any of these. tell your healthcare provider if you ve had depression or other mental health problems. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. the most common side effect is nausea. i can t tell you how good it feels to have smoking behind me. talk to your doctor about chantix. stolen last night by a ground agent employed by horizon air. that plane was followed for an hour and then it crashed exploding into flames. in this amateur video appears that the male suspect was performing stunts before the crash. authorities have not identifiyi the horizon employee by name but say he s a 29-year-old from washington now presumed to be dead. and you can hear exchanges between the suspect and the air crash, just before the crash, take a listen. i ve got a lot of people that care about me. and it s going to disappointment them to hear that i did this. like to apologize to each and every one of them. just a broken guy. got a few screws loose, i guess. never really knew it until now. okay. let s go to our msnbc aviation expert john cox. john, that audio by itself we could talk about for quite some time. but i want to start with, first, what probably most americans are asking, how is it for a grounds person get access to a plane and do what appeared here, that is, take off and get clearance to fly around? well, it s this is a really unusual case. as an airline employee with the proper credentials. he s been background checked. he s been vetted. walking on and off an airplane is something that s done routinely. it s done for maintenance. it s done for catering. there are a lot of people that move off and on planes while they re sitting on the ground overnight. so, he would have access as an employee. what exactly went on here, i think we re going to have to wait for the investigation to unfold to learn what really happen. well, you might let folks in, but to give him the key to the cars. is it secured? you have to have a key to turn it on? well, there is a requirement for the cockpit door being locked. but there is a presis sequence of events that has to go on to get those engines to start. it s not like your car where you can just plug a key into it, turn it and it starts. right. turban engines require a given sequence. it s unclear how he knew how to do that. it s a turboprop. so you have to adjust the propellers. and then, once you have it running, to be able to taxi the airplane. it doesn t drive like a car. so, all of this was a surprise. he had evidently planned this for quite some time. and where he got the information is one of the questions the investigators are going to ask. how many buttons, would you say? obviously, we don t know exactly, is it a ten-step process before he can get this plane up in the air? it s more than ten steps to get it airborne. it s probably about ten to get the engines running. uh-huh. if you know exactly what you re doing. and that s the whole key, knowing the sequence of switches and lever movements that have to occur. once you get that, then the engines are running. how do you get out to the runway. how well do you know what the taxiways are. and there was a lot of confusion with the air traffic control tower that the airplane wasn t moving it wasn t talking to the tower. the air traffic control did a fantastic job. really threading the needle, the suspect did, getting it all right, getting it fast enough to get in the air. was he doing tricks or was it more he doesn t know how to flied plane? no, some of this was a controlled maneuver. i saw some of the video, it s a loop. and i also saw one that s an a-run roll. those are precisely flown maneuvers. he mentions that he s flown a lot of video games. and i suspect he used that as the means to do these aerobatic maneuvers. so, he clearly he had had some practice in some capacity before he got in the airplane. john, what a story. john cox, msnbc aviation analyst. thank you, sir. we ll talk to you later. now, back to politics, the president s personal attorneys, rudy giuliani, jay sekulow, leveling new criticisms. and they can doing it as guest hosts of sean hannity s show. the pair during that radio show laid out examples of why they believe an interview with mueller might turn into a perjury trap. flynn is the example. no crime. if it has been said, the president says, go easy on him. which the president says he didn t say stop it don t do it. so, no crime. however, it didn t take place, according to the president. according to comey it did. of course, if it did, it wouldn t have mattered. but you re right, if there s two different recollections of a meaning now you have a perjury situation. correct. josh barro, gabby morganello. josh, it s different to hear lawyers for the president take on a radio show. number two, josh, what do you continue to argue about collusion here? if it doesn t exist still, and still it s not a crime. yeah, first, for them guest-hosting this television show, i think you have to look at the president s legal strategy being in two parts. there s a legal strategy and there s a pr strategy. the department of justice says you can t indict a sitting president. it s clear that it won t happen, the justice department won t do it even if they had the congressional power to. so the president is not ultimately going to be put on trial for any of this stuff under any circumstance, accept, conceivably after he left office. so, really, the only thing he has to worry about is a political argument. whether congress will continue to impeach him, if there s a democratic majority. and the key part of his lawyers job is to do public relations. that s not totally unprecedented. you can remember during the monica lewinsky sag gashgs you had lenny davis constantly on television for the president. that is part of the lawyer s job. there was no collusion, even if there was collusion there was no crime. it s called argument alternative. basically you put out theories, any one will establish your client s innocence. and can be contradictory, like i wasn t there, and the thing i did while i wasn t there is illegal. the problem is, usually one use is more convincing than two excuses. as a pr message that s pretty muddled. under no circumstances no matter what you thought happened the president didn t commit a crime. and given that platform on the sean hannity show. gabby, what did you learn over that hosting over the hours, anything new? it was shocking to see two of the president s lawyers in a very serious case taking on a three-hour radio program. jay sekulow hosts his own program weekly. but to be using the platform of a fox news radio host is kind of remarkable and really does go to talk to and speak to how this relationship between the president and fox news really is so cozy at times. but in terms of the substance of that three-hour program, i think it s very similar to what we ve heard already from the president s legal team. that they don t believe that the president committed any crime. that there s also justice department guidance. and article two of the constitution they argue that it prevents investigators from interrogating a sitting president of the united states. and the president would have to do that voluntarily. and they said again they re advising the president against sitting down with robert mueller and his team. and that s consistent that the president did want to have input as part of his investigation and that s certainly something that his legal team is concerned about. it s got to be that the lawyers from his point have got to get on to the next chapter. josh, gabby, thanks for givings your perspective. have a good weekend. you too. thank you. he says he wants to make united states decent again. what michael avenatti is saying about his run for president. 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and what do you think will change in the coming year? well, i hope we ll be able to come together as a nation and really push back against all of the hate that we ve seen sort of explode over the national scene over the past year. there s no doubt that this country s had a race problem for any number of years, but we were making progress. and those folks were being pushed back to the shadows that have so much hate. now, they ve come around. and it s up to us, those of us who don t believe in that, those of us who believe in the united states of america, a more perfect union, if you will. to push back in the shadows and continue to make the progress that we continue to make. representative, i want to play you sound here and then get your reaction. we re closely following the terrible events unfolds in charlottesville, virginia. we condemn in strongest possible terms this egregious disdelay of bigotry and violence on many sides. on many sides. you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. you had people in that group excuse me, excuse me, i saw the sa same pictures as you did. and you have to stand proudly for the national anthem. or you shouldn t be playing. you shouldn t be there. maybe you shouldn t be in the country. i said it the other day, yes, she is a low i.q. individual, maxine waters. i said it the other day. we have people trying to come into the country, stopping a lot of them. but we re taking people out of the country, you wouldn t believe how bad these people are. these aren t people. these are animals. i am, as i say often, i am the least racist person that anybody is going to meet. earlier today, there was also this here, representative, a tweet from the president about fighting for and securing the lowest african-american and hispanic unemployment rates in history. pushing for prison reform. all of this underlining, representative, what he believes he has done for minority communities. in light of many studies that show many americans are worse off when it comes to race relations. what more should this white house do to reverse some of the problems in your first answer? there s so much that the president needs to do in that regard that i could talk to you an hour about. but among those things is to recognize that folks have a right to protest. and not to pick on sports figures like he has like lebron james and nfl players. not to call people low i.q. people. maxine waters is a very intelligent person. and to stop attacking people the way he does from this bully pulpit that would be a start. president obama, when he came to his microphone that he didn t want to make at that stage in his presidency, you remember, he came out and talked about race for america. would that happen with this president? should he come out with a keynote speech, a manifesto, if you will, an each on relations in america? no, in my church, we say, we d rather see a sermon than hear a sermon. this president needs to start walking the walk. and start doing things that unify the country. his tweets, his comments. they change like the weather, really. you know, there s a tweet this morning and something later on this evening that directly contradicts it. none of us would be surprised that happendo, phappened. i don t want to hear a sermon, i want to see a sermon. let s shift to the midterms. the breaking news with representative chris collins now saying he s not going to run again. that therefore opens up for the democrat, this in a space where there s a 24-point difference, at least when it came to 2016 and the presidential race. add to that, when you look at 2018 democrats as nancy pelosi your leader, 51% are against. how is this going to square going forward to november? all i can say, i m mighty happy with the leadership that nancy pelosi has provided. she s been very good to me. emmanuel cleaver, a congressman from missouri, he said if you want rabbit stew, you got to catch the rant firsbbit first. all of us need to be focused on winning the midterms then we can have the conversation on who our leadership should be. are you saying you do support pelosi as your leader? i think it s too early to have this conversation. i want to focus on winning. again, these been a brilliant leader. she s been helpful to me. i hope for a very peaceful weekend there in the states of virginia and charlottesville, sir. thank you for stopping by. thank you for having me. you betcha. could stormy daniels attorney be the future of democratic party? why he says he might be the right guy and he might run in 2020. by funding scientific breakthroughs, advancing public policy, and providing local support to those living with the disease and their caregivers. but we won t get there without you. join the fight with the alzheimer s association. need a change of scenery? 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absolutely. organizing a ground game. it s really important. having a vision and a set of policies and platforms that actually speaks to the people living in your district. being committed and forceful in making the argument for those policies. i think part of what s happened over the last decade or so has been a weaponization of commitment of progressive folks, right? yeah. if you hit back, oh, you re in contradiction. if you call people out for being who they are, then somehow you have undermined your values, right? if you get in the pig pen with pigs, you get dirty. if you lay down with dogs, you get fleas. what happens at that moment, you find yourself in a box. you can t forcefully argue for the position you want to put forward. we need an aggressive agenda. you re also talking about being in a box. i ll go to you, atima, we were talking about this in the last segment. this is about nancy pelosi. the yes there, yes or no, nancy pelosi, should she be speaker of the house if democrats regain vole in november? and how should democrats handle nancy pelosi now? you had on congressman don mceachin. a congressman from an area where i grew up in virginia. for him, he has to understand, obviously, the politics of where he is on that in the district. but, you know, what i will say about what s happening with some of the 52 democrats that are running right now is that they re very there s a generational leadership shift i think that s happening. pelosi has been in charge since 2003, as leader. and then obviously, becoming speaker. most companies don t have someone who serves that long. football teams don t have coaches that serve that long. house republicans, i believe, the senate certainly, house republicans have term limits. they ve hadal three new leaders in the time frame since she has been leader of the caucus. most everyone in the caucus who s in leadership is over the age eveof 70. so, i m hearing members not members, but candidates who are running who are millennials. who are gen-xers, who are interested in stepping up and leading. and trying a new way of doing things for the democratic party. i think that leader pelosi has been a great leader for our times. but i do think that there s interest in a generational shift that has certainly taken on a new shape after the 2016 elections. here, we ll take a shift to the break. atima omara. rina shaw. thank you. the team and robert mueller the latest developments there in efforts to get the president to sit down with special counsel. like those who like. sweet. those who prefer heat. and those who just love meat. for those in school. out of school. and old school. those who like their sandwich with pop. and those who like it with soda. for the star of the scene. cut! and the guys behind it. oscar mayer deli fresh. a fresh way to deli. sweet! terms with the president s potential interview with robert mueller. the washington post reports after response, significantly lessens the possibility of a voluntary presidential interview, according to two people familiar with the discussions. joining me now is the author of that article. carol leone. reporter for the washington post and msnbc contributor. carol, thank you for joining us. what more did you learn about the response from the president of the president s legal team? what we learned this was a very long response, to the special counsel s office, explaining where we ve been for the last eight months in late december, robert mueller told trump s lawyers he was really interested in interviewing the president, as he completed his investigation. and what exactly are they saying is offlimits in this response for a potential presidential interview, at least in this latest stance? they don t want the president to have to answer any questions about obstruction. while there s been a lot of hemming and hawing back and forth about the mueller s need to interview the president about actions he took as president. actions like firing jim comey. actions like telling jim comey privately, that he wanted him to let go of the flynn investigation. the investigation of his national security adviser. there s been a lot of hemming and hawing about mueller saying he needs it. trump s team saying they re worried it would be a perjury trap. in this letter, finally and firmly, the team says there s no need for mueller to ask those questions and it s constitutional inappropriate. so this is off the docket. is that on the docket? and that, i mean, by questions of other issues such as collusion? is that okay what they re saying, they have some willingness there? they have some willingness. it doesn t say, yes, we will do it. it says our door is open to other questions of which we have to make a determination if they re appropriate. and they have said they don t believe there s any collusion, so it s not so worrisome for them to ask those questions. what rudy giuliani, the trump s lead lawyer and jay sekulow, his other lawyer, have said to me, is that they re worried that especially mueller will credit the account of jim comey, over the account of trump. and if that s the case, they believe that trump would be walking into accusations of perjury by saying he doesn t remember the things that jim comey does. quick, do you think they re going to send another counter? it s possible. the three options are significant. one is mueller says, forget this and subpoenas the president, that would involve a lengthy legal fight, all the way to the supreme court, likely, since is this not settled law. another option is for mueller to say, okay, i got your long letter. here s what i propose. third option is, mueller says, no thanks, i m going to write my report. i don t agree to your terms i ll just proceed. right. trump team, i will tell you, is definitely of the view this is sort of their last word. there s very little more they re going to acquiesce to or consider. carol leonnig, national reporter for the washington post. thanks for joining us. change of heart, republican congressman chris collins making a dramatic move. alright guys let s go! let s do this directions to the greek theater (beep) can i get a connection? 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