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Tokitae has spent nearly 50 years in captivity. It’s time she returned home.

I mean, that doesn't really get to the heart of the matter. i mean, i don't know. as a -- if you were advising parents, would you tell them this would be a good thing to take their children to still? >> no. i don't like these places. these animals don't belong in captivity. they die very quickly in captivity. the death rate is high. and these animals suffer. this animal is sending a message. tilikum is trying to tell the world he's not happy where he's at. and nobody is listening. nobody is listening to the message that tilikum has told three times. three times he killed three people and still...

Described as acting suspiciously and then got into a fight with flight attendants. they were removed from the plane but not charged. former california governor arnold schwarzenegger voicing a new cartoon superhero called, what else, the governator. he's developing the show with spiderman creator stan lee. a legend. gretch? >> 13 months after killing sea world trainer dawn brancheau, sea world's largest killer whale tilikum is performing before a live audience again. should tilikum be performing at sea world at all? russ rector is a former dolphin and whale trainer and my guest this morning. go...

This animal killed twice before. he knows how to kill. he attacked, he killed her. he took her down to the windows underwater and showed her body to the people below eating dinner. it took 40 minutes to get her away from him. they had to take him over to the med pool which has a false bottom, lift him out of the water and pry her out of his mouth. because she was a trophy. that's why. that was an attack. happy animals -- happy animals don't kill trainers. >> it is hard to talk about what has happened here in that context certainly. jack, what about what russ is saying? let me ask you the quest...

>> russ, i think it's appropriate to not get into some of these details, but g ahead, what were you going to say to jack? >> i was going to say, first of all there are no documented attacks on people by orcas in the wild. only in captivity. yes, i've seen them attack how they hunt. blaming dawn for this, jam, is like blaming a rape victim for being raped. >> did i say i blamed dawn? >> one -- seaworld hasn't come out yet with a statement. i said from the very start if you worked with animals -- if you worked with animals for 42 years like i have, i'm just saying that a lot of accidents happen ...