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certainly be welcome. >> williams: for perspective and reflection we talk with presidential historian and author dorr rinse kearns goodwin adam gopnik, essayist for the "new yorker" magazine. >> osama's left in our minds a certain uncertainty. what do we know about what he's doing in only a year ago you had folks in washington saying we haven't had any intelligence about him for years. so that uncertainty is now gone. we now can say for ourselves that people like him can be got no matter how safe and we are transfering that uncertainty to ayman al-zawahiri and everybody around him. w...

certainly be welcome. >> williams: for perspective and reflection we talk with presidential historian and author dorr rinse kearns goodwin adam gopnik, essayist for the "new yorker" magazine. >> osama's left in our minds a certain uncertainty. what do we know about what he's doing in only a year ago you had folks in washington saying we haven't had any intelligence about him for years. so that uncertainty is now gone. we now can say for ourselves that people like him can be got no matter how safe and we are transfering that uncertainty to ayman al-zawahiri and everybody around him. w...

so it feels like a real possible turning point and i think in this part of the world it will certainly be welcome. >> williams: for perspective and reflection we talk with presidential historian and author dorr rinse kearns goodwin adam gopnik, essayist for the "new yorker" magazine. >> osama's left in our minds a rtain uncertainty. what do we know about what he's doing in only a year ago you had folks in washington saying we haven't had any intelligence about him for years. so that uncertainty is now gone. we now can say for ourselves that people like him can be got no matter how sa...

laden. so it feels like a real possible turning point and i think in this part of the world it will certainly be welcome. >> williams: for perspective and reflection we talk with presidential historian and author dorr rinse kearns goodwin adam gopnik, essayist for the "new yorker" magazine. >> osama's left in our minds a certain uncertainty. what do we know about what he's doing in only a year ago you had folks in washington saying we haven't had any intelligence about him for years. so that uncertainty is now gone. we now can say for ourselves that people like him can be got no matt...

this part of the world it will certainly be welcome. >> williams: for perspective and reflection we talk with presidential historian and author dorr rinse kearns goodwin adam gopnik, essayist for the "new yorker" magazine. >> osama's left in our minds a certain uncertainty. what do we know about what he's doing in only a year ago you had folks in washington saying we haven't had any intelligence about him for years. so that uncertainty is now gone. we now can say for ourselves that people like him can be got no matter how safe and we are transfering that uncertainty to ayman al-zawah...