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There. since then i have seen an evolution in the relationship. it is not, between the two principals, not as transactional as the it appears. i think there is a great deal of suspicion among supporters in both universes. i do think the relationship changed a great deal in the last year. >> one of the healthy parts is breaking the incumbent cartel. sam youngman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, ari. >> coming up, what president obama said about the prospective candidates for 2016, his own vice president and former secretary of state. (vo) you are a business pro. maestro of project manag...

Was at a breakfast in washington with senator paul. asked him if senator mcconnell had been a role model. at the time he said henry david thoreau was a role model. sort of skirting the question there. since then i have seen an evolution in the relationship. it is not, between the two principals, not as transactional as the it appears. i think there is a great deal of suspicion among supporters in both universes. i do think the relationship changed a great dealen the la it year. >> one of the healthy parts is breaking the incumbent cartel. sam youngman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, a...

Paul decleaned to answer the question publicly saying he would speak with her in private and explain his reason for supporting the senior senator. all right. but not like this hasn't come up before when glenn beck popped the similar question in july. paul didn't offer a private meeting. instead he dutifully endorsed senator mitch mcconnell. >> can we start with the hardest question that i have for you. and it -- it is this. why are you endorsing mitch mcconnell? >> i'm here in texas -- >> we have our signals crossed here. he asked me when there was nobody else in the race. and i said, yes. >> ...

[ applause ] >> but the obamacare punching bag is punching back. >> this thing is working. >> with a vengeance. >> obamacare, the national journal reports is on a winning streak. >> we have 8 million people signed up. >> 8 million enrollees. >> some republicans seem to be backing down. >> whoa-whoa-whoa. >> they said nobody would sign up. they were wrong. they said it would be unaffordable for the country. they were wrong about that. >> there really is no gain any more. >> the president is beating republicans over the head. >> this is what the president is saying "go ahead make my da...

>> we are going to repeal every single word of obamacare. [ applause ] >> but the obamacare punching bag is punching back. >> this thing is working. >> with a vengeance. >> obamacare, the national journal reports is on a winning streak. >> we have 8 million people signed up. >> 8 million enrollees. >> some republicans seem to be backing down. >> whoa-whoa-whoa. >> they said nobody would sign up. they were wrong. they said it would be unaffordable for the country. they were wrong about that. >> there really is no gain any more. >> the president is beating republicans over the head. >>...