Time, at the very day of the health care ruling by the u.s. supreme court. people arg gured that this was politics. that's what democrats have been contending, and that is a little bit backed up by the fact, thomas, thatç the national rif association, which is one of the most powerful lobbies in washington, d.c., ended up putting out a score record where they wanted people -- they were going to score people's votes, yes or no, on the holder cont t content. when that was going on it flagged to a lot of people that this was politics. >> let's listen to some of the d.c. chatter again about this...