Four cases. that said, it's ultimately the clients decision based on that advice. i think that here, it is clear that donald trump is going to try this in -- sort of the public, because the things that he's been saying so far are just not anything that goes to a factual defense or a legal defense in any of these cases. so, i just didn't see that this is gonna be really an issue where we are thinking about this in terms of the trials, and donald trump's thinking of, i can get to the presidency, or get an ally into the white house, so i can at least make the federal cases go away. >> so, we are ...