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Realistically, are we really going to give ukraine a security guarantee and, fight and its defense? while the work is ongoing? even president zelenskyy has not really been asking for that. so the real question here is not so much about whether we say we might want ukraine and nato someday, it is what do we do about the current and near- term future. with this conflict, and i think that right now, we will have to watch and see how it plays out in the summer, i think ukraine will make some gains. none of us know how many. and then we have to reassess, how can we help ukraine make more gains. tha...
Early. admitting ukraine tonight it would raise the prospect of a grim choice between a war with russia and the devastating consequences involved or backing down and to evaluate security guarantee across the entire alliance. is it in that u.s. interest is in nato's interest to admit ukraine? >> it kind of figures make colleague senator barrasso on this for the focus right now should be helping you create with this or that should be the focus. we needn't complicate it with other matters. russia's narrative is the west hates us. that's what they are trying to tell their citizens, to light and co...
Security guarantee. ukraine wants a path of membership here. they want to be able to say that they are going to be a member of nato, and a number of the european nato allies would like to say the same thing. there is no caution in the white house right now, because if ukraine were member of nato today, we will be required by the atlantic airlines treaty to come to their defense perhaps in a more vigorous way than we already have. perhaps with boots on the ground. that is something course the president biden had always wanted to avoid. there is some friction there between united states and the ...
Munitions. we in europe are working to ramp up manufacturing of ammunition. we decided 500 million euro to incentiize this. >> do you think it's going to become an issue at the nato summit? >> the main issue at the nato summit. the first is to get security guarantee to ukraine and not to be reluctant to open the door widely to ukraine after the war is over for nato membership. the second one is to twist arms of turkey so that sweden stops being blackmailed by one of the nato members. this is what we expect, including from washington. >> thanks to you. thanks to all of you.