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pence has been subpoenaed. this is been a major move by the special counsel investigating donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. pence was key to trump's plans to stay in power. this is what the former president said on january 6th. >> i hope mike is going to do the right thing, i hope so. i hope so. because, if mike pence does the right thing, we win the election. all vice president pence has to do is send it back to this dates to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people. >> okay, i want to bring in cnn chief law enforcement intelligence analy...

President of the united states that they can at least have a useful conversation. >> speaking of tradition, i'll put up on the screen. so obama spoke to cbs in 2013, then he did sit down with fox and nbc, cbs, trump did fox first. then he opted out of nbc because i was told that that is when he was going after the football players for taking in the nfl that he did not want to be asked about that. 2000, 19 cbs, and then needed fox again. president biden did cbs, nbc, during his entire time of presidency. but john, what about that, that he could just reach a huge swath of americans. >> look, he ...

Like some other yorkers in congress, i'm jewish, and the real thing baby. >> you are traveling, john. it got you. >> can i just say, this was a moment for nancy mace to get back at her political enemies, right. people like lauren boebert, marjorie taylor greene, matt gates, even kevin mccarthy at times. these people have publicly feuded at her and so this was not just -- >> do you think she wrote her own? stuff >> i think she did. she got help from her staff probably, and a good staff is worth a compensations. >> it's a pretty funny staff. i'm curious who wrote those. >> need to, because those...

Kilter. it was a great line until you remember that people died that day, so not exactly on pitch. >> it confuses me, john. because part of its him using, it's definitely musing, but it's also confusing because first of all it's that, do we think that's funny, january 6th? but it's also, you can all of together in a big room one night and then the next morning you go back to being toxic? >> that's one of the things that i took out of this is that, i actually do not think that there are that many opportunities where they get in a rome and laugh together anymore. what do you think it's funny or,...

Up to the punchline she's like okay, here i go. now it's common. >> we did not play the one that i thought was the funniest where the youngest member of congress -- >> she dropped an f bomb. >> that's why we didn't play it. >> it's still a, tonight i feel like they can do that. i'll just tell you guys, she's talking about the youngest member of congress and she's 25 and she said after you, i have stretch marks older than you. i like that. >> miller laughed again. >> see john, or loosening you apparently? >> i need that. >> you're welcome. meanwhile, the sitting president typically grants a pre...