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And of course on tiktok. >> former president donald trump has been convicted of 34 felonies in the state of new york. >> why is it so quiet. he is literally guilty on all 34 counts. >> you know how many memes saying i don't care. i am going to go to the election booth and vote for a convicted felon. >> the justice system worked and the rule of law prevailed. >> guilty verdict. everybody is really surprised. i'm not. >> that is the other side of the camera. msnbc viewers and trump fans. you know that everybody knows about something when it is a punch line and everybody can laugh about it.

♪ >> what i can say about iowans is that the you can ask me who i might vote for today and i might tell you, but when i go to caucus night or into the election booth to vote, that could change. dana: so exciting times here in iowa. it's almost time for the caucus, and we want to bring back our excellent panel because it's very interesting to hook at -- look and see what president trump is dealing with on the legal front. whitedny, i know you are going for -- whitney, i know you are going for desantis, but how do you feel about the legal problems? >> i really hate when the judicial system get...

Stunning argument. it makes the argument that if something was not designated as a right, actually specified in the constitution of 200 years ago, then it is not a right today. and that is true of privacy as it relates to abortion but as it relates to any number of other issues, same sex marriage, but also how about interracial marriage, how about all of the things that we have considered settled law that now could be overturned. so, i think this obviously is something that will animate people in november at the election booth. >> i guess the argument from some conservatives on that is, well, ...

Ukraine, to an election booth, demanding that you show a photo i.d. most americans will be like, that's not even remotely the same thing. >> they face a balancing act on both fronts. both managing the crisis in ukraine and balancing the worries amongst the public but also balancing what they've already done this year while acknowledging the very real anxieties that are reflected in the poor poll numbers. approval ratings. yes. his allies of the white house have been pressing them to not just talk about the build back better agenda. not just talk about sprawling legislation. but also to talk ab...

What's interesting is ntfs and blm burned down america. cities and terrorized their population, where's the shock campaign about that? listen, political private has no place in this country. we do change an election booth but why is it when leftist organizations, aunt eva and blm terrorized american citizen, you don't see a campaign against them? qc no shock campaign. nt five and blm are probably in shock how little has been done to prosecute them for terrorizing american citizens. not just that, two systems of justice means no system of justice at all. there's more. check out this usa today a...