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about. we begin this morning with the latest signs that the justice department's investigation of donald trump are escalating and shifting to a more a vance's stage. on thursday, nbc news learned that former vice president, mike pence, was subpoenaed by jack smith, the special counsel appointed by attorney general merrick garland to handle this departments investigations of the january six investigation in of donald trump's handling of classified documents. the subpoena follows months of negotiations between pence's legal team and the department of justice. so, it is also the latest ...

In the coming days? >> i would expect to see more from jack smith's office. he is towards the top, he is potentially the most important or one of the most important witnesses to what happened on january 6th. both at the white house and then eventually at the capitol. but there are tougher nuts to crack, one might say, in terms of trying to get up there and talk to president trump, talk to people who were in the white house while mike pence was essentially running for his life in the capital. >> and just to pick up on an earlier point, the tougher nuts to crack, and also the different component...

But on the more serious point, the suspicion that, instinctively, that it is china. this is coming at a very pivotal moment in u.s. china relations. countries are drifting further apart, beijing now says that it has rejected a recent call from the u.s. over the incident because of the quote atmosphere is not right, we had centuries say that blinken canceled's trip to china, where does it go from d.c. in beijing? how do american officials prevent this from going completely off the rails? >> that is the really important question, because these are the world's two great powers. we can't have thin...

President, we've had the former vice president, we've even had the sitting president had their homes raided by the fbi. there would be an era in which that would be the end of the game for anybody, but this is just kind of passing news these days, and it is something obviously that donald trump handled the documents quite differently and he may find himself in trouble just for that, but it really takes some air out of the potency of this issue. now, are there a lot of people who the republican party would like to move on from the sort of chaos of donald trump, they may still like him, and even...

The same way in criminal investigations. plus, pence probably wade any privileges after writing about january 6th in his book. but you don't get to say stuff to sell books and then claim that you can't talk about it to the grand jury because it's privileged. well >> that's a good point. you can't disclose on your own accord, i suppose. what does the subpoena tell us about the special counsel investigation. again, talking with john about this, if they are going after the former vice president, it suggests that they are nearing some sort of conclusion. they also went after national security advi...