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And limiting that it is helpful to ask the question what is innexus we create and talk about restriction of the contributions. It is a conscious point to put that here and should have spelt it out in more detail but it was a conscious choice. The expenditure lobbyist may be a corporation that has to register as expenditure lobbyist and why should they not have to be under the same restrictions as a contact lobbyist . If i can chime in. As i mentioned, we have a obligation to gep legislative record that justifies these restrictions and given there are no expenditure lobbyist it is difficult to ...

Im bob [inaudible] im leer as a member and also Spokes Person for the Informal Association known as friends of ethics. Last week a public polling of california completed a polling about Ethics Commission and potential ethics matters happening in the city. I want to give you brief summary of some the results. It was a simple bakers dozen of question squz people can say yes, punch 1, 2, no, 3, i dont know or 4, i dont care. The one i want to mention that i think stands out is there is a ballot measure drafted that will ban lobbyist from contributing to officials which you support or oppose. Out ...

Commissioner chiu, here. All present and accounted for. Item number 2, Public Comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda and make the same caution that if you intend to make a specific comment on a specific agenda, i appreciate if we hold those until we get to that agenda but you are free to do as you wish. Im bob [inaudible] im leer as a member and also Spokes Person for the Informal Association known as friends of ethics. Last week a public polling of california completed a polling about Ethics Commission and potential ethics matters happening in the city. I want to give you...

Control board [inaudible] waste water revenue [inaudible] item 21, ordinance authorizing issuance and sales of tax exempt or taxable waet waster revenue bond in [inaudible] Public Utilities commission in principle amounts not to exceed 1. 1 billion to finance the cost of various capital waste Water Project benefiting the waste water enterprise. Thank you very much. Eric sandsler, 20 and 21 are similar to the legislation you heard with respest to waste water enterprise. Two year capital appropriation for the next 2 fiscal years and funding authorization for those capital appropriation and total...

Last month. It was after thought and discussion and we provided a alternative on the right to provide them Counter Point to that. I want to make one additional note that was oversight on my part in haste to get the memo done so my apology for that. On page 3 under the gift restriction, we had thought at the staff and agreement with what the thrust of the proposal is in this regard that we would like to see additional language under the alternative that does speak to a prohibition on the contact laubiest directly or indirectly or through a 3rd party paying or reimbursing for travel of sit a off...