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level of perfection that few of us can achieve or attain has to be put in question. women are barrages with images of things they can never be and we want to show them something they can rejoice. and this was about the campaign they are beautiful, sexy hot. >> but you say it is about time and we know as we talk about the sports illustrated and the recent issue, ashley let me talk about this because there was the complaint there was a model in the issue, and they referred to as plus-size, she was just a size 12. >> if you understand the plus size industry, it starts as a size 8 and goes up to a size 18 or 20 within the fashion realms of what you can shoot. so that is why the misconception of the word plus-size is in question. that is why i don't believe in labels. because i'm a model. >> and wouldn't 8 be considered skin yip. >> 8 is considered normal. and the average size american woman is size 14.

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