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Crypto and it is protecting sbf now. there aren't that many people when it was bernie madoff. people understand how stocks are traded. they don't understand the crypto exchanges and the way it's organized and that's helping sbf argue it was too complicated and it got out of control and he didn't know what was going on. >> dana: i would put myself in that category. i have been trying to understand crypto. it has never totally sunk in. until this story. now i start to realize okay, so the shell game he was playing or appears to have been playing is one that ultimately lost people a lot of money ...

Trial in texas there was a forensic economist who testified that jones had moved around a lot of his money, how much do you know about that, how much of their lawyers learned about that? >> he has claimed that he is indebted to the tune of $54 million to an llc that is controlled by himself and his parents, so in a way it's a kind of shell game. he's worth between 130 and $270 million according to that forensic economist. >> he's worth what? 200 what? >> between 130 and $270 million, so for him to say he has assets of between of one and $10 million is something that would be absolutely challen...

Around a lot of his money. i mean, how much do you know about that? how much had their lawyers learned about that? >> well, as elie said, you know, he has claimed he's indebted to the tune of $54 million to an llc of a company that is controlled by himself and his parents. so in a way it's a kind of shell game. he is worth between 130 and $270 million, according to that forensic economists. >> wow. wait, alex jones is worth what, 200 and what? >> between 130 and $270 million. >> wow. >> so for him to say he has assets of between 1 and $10 million is just something that will be absolutely chall...

Once a rush to get over the -- wasn't a rush to get over the border before the pendulum swings is and get over the border. we have reform in the immigration policy and hurts us and people coming to the country and kids who are sent by their parents and that's one of the areas where the adults in the room from both parties need to get together and formulate that because this is what happens, it forces these crises over and over again and to emily's point, you're playing the shell game with different federal law enforcement and stealing people off of planes where they could be securing americans...

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