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Do you agree with your own bishops? >> i think we could have a wonderful evening and we'll talk and compare notes on your position on right to life and my position on guns, and maybe during the course of the evening, we could have a catholic to catholic come-together and decide exactly how much each of us could support the bishops. it could be a wonderful show. >> let's have a catholic get-together. i like the idea of that, mr. speaker. nice to talk to you. >> good to be with you. coming up next, remembering roger ebert. director michael moore tells me how the great ebert changed his life.

There are steps you could take, when they had an operation trigger lock in richmond and they locked up felons, they brought down the murder rate very, very fast. i think it is possible to bring down violent crime very rapidly. ironically, this makes all the pro-gun control people go crazy, but the fact is in the states that have concealed carry, you increasingly have evidence that having honest citizens have the ability to protect themselves reduces the crime rate, it doesn't increase it, and it does it by a practical common sense standard which is criminals know it's a lot more dangerous to b...

A teacher in every one. why do the nra want to do that? because it sells another 120,000 guns. then we have our kids going to school with guns everywhere. >> piers, even by your standard -- >> why are you laughing? that's what it means. >> that is an absurd comment. first of all -- >> why? >> -- the greatest gun salesman in american history is president barack obama. nobody has led to a greater increase in gun purchases than the obama administration. just look at the last five years. you have gun manufacturers working 24 hours a day, seven days a week to meet the demand. the fact is this presi...

Exactly the same way as cars, alcohol, tobacco? >> well, you're not talking about whether they should be regulated or not. >> we're not. 40% of all gun sales in america, nobody has a clue who's selling them to who. it's complete madness. >> but do you think that the shootings you're talking about, which are, as you've said, the majority are gang. the majority are handguns. do you believe those will be stopped by background checks? >> how could you have happen what happened at sandyhook and your answer is, according to kelly, kelly, i want to be fair, kelly, do any of the proposals you've heard...

Laws on gun control. he could have been stopped before he went into that theater, he could have been stopped. people looked the other way. >> okay. put aside the fact that he was flagged up by the therapist. of course they should have done something about it and could have stopped it. how did he get 6,000 rounds of ammunition? how did he get all this fire power, all these guns and everything else perfectly legitimately in a civilized society? how are you going to stop that? how are you going to stop the next crazy shooter getting such easy access to this armory because i don't hear anything fr...