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>> dana: i mean, sometimes -- what is it? when you accidentally tell the truth? this also reminds me of the politics of the government shutdown. when you learn from history, and the public in a big deficit in popularity after impeaching president clinton, impeachment actually strengthened president clinton, and you're just seeing it repeated and it's the same thing with the shutdown. the shutdown doesn't help anybody. the schumer shutdown, the democrats thought this is going to hurt president trump and it didn't? do you know why this is a repeat? record stock market today. wages going fast, which is growing even quicker. >> greg: by the way, it wasn't the right wing media, juan, pushing the dossier. use the entire media, academic
>> dana: i mean, sometimes -- what is it? when you accidentally tell the truth? this also reminds me of the politics of the government shutdown. when you learn from history, and the public in a big deficit in popularity after impeaching president clinton, impeachment actually strengthened president clinton, and you're just seeing it repeated and it's the same thing with the shutdown. the shutdown doesn't help anybody. the schumer shutdown, the democrats thought this is going to hurt president trump and it didn't? do you know why this is a repeat? record stock market today. wages going fast, which is growing even quicker. >> greg: by the way, it wasn't the right wing media, juan, pushing the dossier. use the entire media, academic
that $5.7 billion, but is he indicating that he's willing to budge on that? >> yes. >> yes? how? >> absolutely. i think so. so when you saw mick mulvaney, who is the acting chief of staff, as well as north carolina congressman mark meadows, who is the chairman of the freedom caucus, very conservative wing of the republican party, both have said today on the sunday shows he's going to get his money one way or the other. i feel like that "or the other" was that wiggle room. i don't know if we know what that is, but it tells us that the potential for a shutdown doesn't happen, and that there's other ways that the president is exploring to get what he wants. >> so carmen, democrats have said, nancy pelosi and chuck schumer has said there is no
alarm warning that the entire system will break if the shutdown doesn't end and end soon. here is the president of air traffic controllers association. listen to this. >> in my work environment where i am seeing routine mistakes are happening because they are thinking about which credit cards can i consolidate for zero percent interest? which company is helping you out so you can skip your mortgage? these conversations are having in the work environment because the stress is getting very high. >> so you have that. let's go to capitol hill. house speaker nancy pelosi speaking right now. >> good morning. thank you all for being here. as you know last night the president accepted the fact that the state of the union should be
democratic strategist dave rounds, katie pavlich, marc thiessen. we're going to get into a whole bunch of new fox news bowls of chemo today but one of them, katie, was 56% of people think the president should go ahead and have some kind of state of the union. how does it end? >> the state of the union doesn't belong to nancy pelosi or president trump. it belongs to the american people. at the nancy pelosi, it's good that she made the decision and stepped up to the plate to disinvited the president rather than sitting around and see what he was going to do. but it's a petty move. i think it shows she doesn't have much leverage when it comes to policy because she has to go to this tactic instead of actually negotiating behind the scenes or in front of the american people. this is something that nancy pelosi invited the president to do to give the state of the union on january 3rd which was weeks into the shutdown. weeks before federal workers missed their first paycheck. to say it's about the shutdown doesn't really add up to the facts and i will remind everybody nancy pelosi is the one who didn't want any of this to be out in front of the
if the shutdown doesn't end soon, how bad could it get? >> it's already bad. there was a stunning announcement come iing out and saying this shutdown is harming u.s. national security. not will harm, it is harming u.s. national security. they talk about informants that are drying up and not having enough money to engage in types of operations we expect them to do to protect the country. what's interesting is that the president talks about a national security crisis at the border, but the fbi agents association is saying, no, the shutdown is the crisis. the president talks about groups like ms-13, terrorist groups and today you had the fbi saying this shutdown is hurting our ability to infiltrate these groups to go after them. this is a crisis. i hope that it resinates with people. i agree with what frank was saying. i don't know the president loses any slooep about the 800,000 federal workers, which includes the fbi, but he should. because the actions happening
president. where do you look at the issue of humanity. not politics, but humanity versus being bullied into submission. there's a lot at play in this nation and this book is just yet again revealing. it's a whistle blowing book it sounds like. >> so you said let's look at humanity. josh, can we look at the actual safety of the shutdown? because you're a former fbi agent. fbi agents are warning that the shutdown is putting national security at risk. that includes operations against once of the president's favorite targets, ms-13. if the shutdown doesn't end soon how bad could it get? >> there was a very stunning announcement coming out and saying this shutdown is harming u.s. national security. not will harm, it is harming u.s. national security. they talk about informants drying up and not having enough money to engage in the
with just one single tool. it's a comprehensive approach. so the wall is part of that. walls do -- walls and fences do have a benefit for law enforcement and for security. they define restricted areas. they deter and prevent criminal activity. i mean, listen, the white house, where i worked at for years, has a fence around it. but the secret service doesn't rely on that fence alone. they rely on human capital, uniform division officers, surveillance sensor. it's a comprehensive program. yes, the wall in some areas, where it's deemed necessary, it's a benefit, but overarchi overarchingly across the entire southern border, it has to be part of a more comprehensive program. >> always good to see you, thank you so much. hello again, everyone, thank you for being with me this saturday. 14 days and counting. that's how long the federal government has been partially
energy, new blood. also, learn from the people who have been there before to get things done. >> you say aoc. we're talking about alexandria ocasio cortez. >> who is the new face. she has more twitter followers than pelosi and ryan combined. she's a phenomenon. that phenomenon is something that pelosi is going to have to manage. her caucus -- the new member, much more extreme than what pelosi is used to -- >> not extreme. progressive. >> so earlier -- >> that lady, talking about -- that is extreme. >> last time we were all here, we had a very interesting conversation coming from both of you. we're talking about, brian, underscoring the president, isn't celebrating, doesn't seem to be happy about the shutdown. said, you've got to pull up that videotape. here's the videotape. the president, his point of view on the shutdown. thumbs up, thumbs down. you tell me what you hear here. >> i'm very proud of doing what
they get often the road and drive out into the desert and come out, make a left turn. usually it's a left, not a right. >> can that be true? let's bring in our guest, a former secret service agent for president obama and cnn law enforcement analyst. good to see you. is it that simple? >> well, listen, i got to give the president partial credit. he's talking about there's a large portion of the southern board they're is wide open that doesn't have the protective barriers they is looking for. those protective -- that part of the border is actually protected by natural barriers. so the fact that he's saying, you know, terrorists or whomever can just get in a van, drive along the border, the first opening they can take, they take a left and they're in the country. i just think it feeds into a false, you know, narrative of the totality of what's going on on the southern border. i don't think it's actually helpful to the wroeoverall deba >> like waterways, rivers?