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>> he should have [inaudible] [inaudible] >> we have a supreme court right now, which is getting voting rights, abortion rights, minority rights. the ability of the government to restrict gun violence or stop climate change. is this illegitimate supreme court in your view, and is a time for supreme court reform, expansion, even? >> again, he got to keep in mind, i come from the people where the first wave of supreme court justices from 1780's up until 18 60s, a large numbers of them were slave holders. it's hard to ask me a question about whether it's a legitimate court, when it's been -- slav...

Distraction from the major issues that are facing people every single day in the state of florida. >> yeah. so, representative, let me ask you a question. let's say i'm a teacher, right, and i'm one of these -- i am a 1776 guy. i have talked about it all the time with reverend, but i believe 1776 and 1619 are two truths that need to reside next to each other. yes, we have some extraordinary founding documents that liberated more people than ever in the history of mankind, woman kind. at the same time, 12 of our presidents were also slave holders. at the same time slavery was an original sin. n...

Where slave states, slave holders, but zero representation, zero equality, zero justice or liberty, for any of the enslaved black people. in an intrench society, an economy, holding dependent upon the enslavement of human beings. a world where the enslavers were able to use the people they kept in bondage, to tighten the grip on power in the federal government. this is just one truth in history lesson from imani perry's new book, south to america. a journey below the mason-dixon line, to understand the soul of a nation. and there's more to come, because in monte perry join to later the show, a...

Let's just say the majority of the country does not want roe versus wade to end. i would hope that the mainstream interpretation of the constitution would be moving away from this originalist point of view, from this textualist point of view, saying we have to look at the words and think about what the framers would have thought. frankly, the framers weren't particularly friends to black people, particularly to black women. so i'm not particularly interested in looking at the constitution from that framework. and i think that it is bizarre that we have to pretend that that's what we need to do...

Rather, slave holders were made large people by virtue of holding others as slaves, and quote. professor perry goes on to know that three excuses were all probably heard by folks who would rather not hold our founding fathers accountable for the three fifths compromise, or the institution of slavery. quote, there are three kinds of apologetic's for this disingenuous argument. one, they operated out of political necessity. to, they were men of their time and three, their version to the word slaves means that they didn't really like slavery, but they found themselves in a bind. the truth is, val...