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Way, working with the white house. even if you don't like the man in charge, understanding that you have to get certain things done to keep the clocks running. i think that's an important thing thrks strength that joe biden i think brings to this campaign. >> the trump campaign is launching a democrats for trump campaign. the press release says it's a coalition designed to attract and engage disaffected democrats who will refuse to support rich hunts or radical big government socialist policies. cut through some of that melodrama, this strikes me as a smart strategy. do you think it can see su...

He's doing? >> i think ali is right in her reporting. you don't necessarily need to focus on the first four states because all of these candidates have been pouring money and resources into the states. he's a big city mayor or was, and i do think there's always been a role for a big city mayor of a debate stage and probably has a better path than bill deblazio did. if you look at later in march, you've got states like california, texas, virginia, michigan and arizona that votes later in the month. states with big cities where he can talk about things like infrastructure, transportation, mingz,...

Into the progressive versus moderate conversation that we're having. i don't think that the solution is winning over trump voters from 2016. only 26% of the country voted for him in the first place, and hillary clinton got 3 million more of the votes that were actually cast. i think at this point what we want to do, the smart strategy is on building on the success that we saw in 2017 and 2018 with dramatic expansion of the electorate. the margin in wisconsin that she lost by was smaller than the number of black voters we now know were unfairly disenfranchised. that should be a focus. >> jess m...

Moderate conversation that we're having. i don't think that the solution is winning over trump voters from 2016. only 26% of the country voted for him in the first place, and hillary clinton got 3 million more of the votes that were actually cast. i think at this point what we want to do, the smart strategy is on building on the success that we saw in 2017 and 2018 with dramatic expansion of the electorate. the margin in wisconsin that she lost by was smaller than the number of black voters we now know were unfairly disenfranchised. that should be a focus. >> jess mcintosh, appreciate it. van ...

Laura has a lot more. >> more insight on the trump administration's approach with iran and whether lasting diplomacy with the islamic republic can be achieved. let's bring in secretary of state for legislative affairs in the obama administration in washington strategy group president joel rubin. nice resume. i was looking at the piece you wrote, donald trump ramped up his rhetoric with words like locked and loaded instead of using tensions with iran so is this a smart strategy, too provocative? >> we are in a situation where there is no military outcome one can envision that would actually wor...