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And its anyones race. The stakes, high. As iowans get set to make their choices, weve come to the center of the political universe today, monday, february 1st, 2016. Announcer from nbc news, this is a special edition of today, iowa votes, with matt lauer and savannah guthrie, live from des moines, iowa. And good morning, everyone. We thought this day would never come, but its finally arrived. Welcome to a special edition of today on a monday morning. We are, yes, in des moines, iowa, joined by a lot of enthusiastic residents of this state on a very pivotal day in the president ial election. Th...

what is -- how do you criminalize it and what is the penalty. >> his hesitance -- pat, back to you. your hesitance to prescribe a punishment tells me you have a problem calling this in effect, legally, murder. >> is it murder? >> it is the killing of an innocent unborn. >> is it murder? >> you mean does it meet the definition of murder? i think it does -- >> why don't you punish the woman, then? >> because the abortionist does it. she's a participant in it but i think she's a victim. >> thank you. you're hedging, hedging. >> no, i think you are. "countdown" with keith olbermann sta...