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Are two possible outcomes. what are they? >> right. so mueller was originally tasked with looking at russian interference in the election and whether this was involvement with that interference so one possibility that everybody has been focusing on, is will he find this grand conspiracy involving russians and members of the campaign to try to interfere with the 2016 election. as you pointed out, we haven't seen any charges like that yet. we've seen two sort of strat tracks, russians charged with the interference and people in the trump campaign charged with sort of covering up contacts with ru...

Those calls could be a smoking gun proving trump, himself, knew the meeting about it as it was happening. then on friday the "new york times" quoted trump as saying rod rosenstein has assured his lawyers the president is not the focus or target of the investigation. you put that all together, it might suggest mueller will write a report highly critical of those in trump's orbit but will not reach the president, himself, too date, mueller charged six associates, 34 overall with three companies. these cases are on two zijt tracks the russian defendants who stand aused of one crime and americans ...

Make the conspiracy case, that almost suggests, you know the case isn't there. if he's relying on someone like stone to try to make that case for him. so i think it's a little bit of a mystery why stone gets carved out right now. you know, another possibility is someone suggested mueller's probe is wrapping up, he's bringing his final cases. but again, we don't know. >> okay. the president sat down with the "new york times" this week, relative to roger rosenstein. he said something interesting. roll it, please. >> he told the attorney, i'm not a target. oh, yeahment. >> about which? >> i don't...

York state? none of those are the slam dunks you see in this indictment against stone. but the question i'm asking is could you bring a state charge under new york law for aiding and abetting for a hacking conspiracy or soliciting stolen goods? i think there's a stronger case for those crimes than you would for violations of campaign financial. if you have stone involved with a conspiracy to solicit stolen goods or aid and abet computer hacking, even if trump pardons stone, you could still have a new york state prosecution for stone, which means he needs to cooperate. >> as this was all happen...

Goods or aid and abet computer hacking, even if trump pardons stone, you could still have a new york state prosecution for stone, which means he needs to cooperate. >> as this was all happening, just for the last couple of days of -- you just answered the question i had. thank you. i appreciate it. because if it does go to you said state charges or if it goes to the southern district of new york, is that what you're saying? >> no, i'm talking this is federal and state. so mueller and fdny are federal, and then the question are different state charges, that means trump's pardon for stone would ...