bill: should he step down or not? should not. adam schiff was a staunch supporter of secretary clinton while involved in the benghazi investigation and nobody s calling on him to recuse himself. devin is the chairman of house intel whether they like it or not. what we need to do is focus on the witnesses and accessing the documents and find the facts for our fellow citizens. it should not be a bipartisan investigation. let s meet witnesses. bill: nunes has said it had nothing to do with russia. if that s not the case why not clear it up? what s his source and what information was he given on the ground of the white house? on the source i found it interesting last week parts of the main street media beat the daylights out of republicans for 12 years to successfully win the electoral college. what do you want to start with? that s a good place to take our lead. bill: does that suggest you re confused what his priority is? i ve talked to mick mulvaney more than i want to i think it s health care but if we re not going to get that done let s move to infrastructure and tax reform. bill: you were in the conference yesterday i didn t mean to interrupt you but in the interest of time what s the consensus of the three items you just listed there? health care. let s see if we can do health care. we have a window with reconciliation. it s an arcane word but important word. we have a window with rec reconciliation and it s more time sensitive we do health care. let s see if we can get that right. bill: thank you for your time today. trey gowdy on the hill with a range of topics today. thank you, sir. we ll get an updated view on the russia matter later today. the top two members of the senate intel committee as they hold a joint news conference this afternoon. their first public update since launching their investigation in january. live coverage of that. the committee also holds a meeting on russia. all that on the docket to come. shannon: also today, president trump tapping new jersey governor chris christie to head a task force on opioid addiction and looking at the possibility of bipartisan health care reform. a deal. i know we ll all make a deal on health care. it s an easy one. i have no doubt it will happen quickly. i think it s going to happen because we ve all been promising, democrat, republicans, all that to the american people. shannon: chief white house correspondent john roberts from the north lawn says it s an easy one. is health care back on the agenda now? it was so easy look what happened last week. maybe it s not so easy. we don t know when it s going to happen or if it s going to happen but it s clear the white house and house republicans and some senators as well are taking another look at whether or not they can put together a health care bill. you saw the president last night with senators from capitol hill on the republican and democratic side last night here at the white house over for dinner. the president talking about recruiting democrats to get on board a health care bill. the language aimed at conservatives who scuttled the idea of a vote and it implied the conservatives wouldn t be happy with the bill that attracted democratic support. they may want to be on board. yesterday the press secretary said there were preliminary discussions in terms of where they can make it go. here s sean spicer. have we had discussions and li listened to ideas? yes. are we planning a strategy? not at his time. there s individuals on both sides of aisle reaching out to the president and key staff members to share ideas and additional ways forward. the art of the deal is how to thread the needle to bring conservatives and moderates together and bring them a little bit of what they want without driving the other side apart it s like newton s law for every action there s an equal reaction. shannon: like jenga game. meanwhile the president now focussing on opioid addiction. he talked a lot about this during the campaign. it was a big deal particularly in new hampshire and not letting the issue go. he s expected to sign an executive order not today i m told. to start a task force to look at opioid addiction headed up by chris crist christie. he has had experience with this a good friend of his an attorney died from the addiction. this looks at the issue of prevention and addiction of drugs before they come it our country and importantly the issue of treatment. addiction is a disease and we need to treat it that way and get these people the help they need to renew their live and become productive members of society. again a listening session on all that this morning at 11:00. not likely the president will sign the executive order to strike it task force today but in the near future. shannon. shannon: john roberts live at the white house. thank you very much. bill, we ve talked a lot about the issue. the numbers are stunning. just over the last four and five years skyrocketing. bill: more on that come up next hour two with marc siegel and an interesting piece in the wall street journal. and senator mccain is standing by to talk about the russia deal and the critical battle in iraq led by u.s. and iraqi forces on isis. stand by on that. shannon: and attorneys for aaron schock saying he was taken down by a staffer acting as an informant for the fbi calling that illegal. how they re hoping to get the charges dropped. bill: and heartbreak in the heartland, three storm chasers pay for their pursuit with their lives. that in a moment. we had that thing s number. it was going wren and all of a sudden it turned on us and was coming up behind us and changed from us chasing being chased. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org. bringing tore tore and three storm chasers have died. two worked with the weather channel including kelly williamson. what i like is we re able to stream it live on the weather channel while it happens. people can sit at home where as it s safe and we re out there getting the shots. they can sit there and watch it on your tv screen and we enjoy doing it. shannon: texas authorities say williamson was driving a car when it hit another car and in the crash was his chasing partner 55-year-old randall yarnel and authorities are still trying to figure out exactly what happened. i got a call from general mattis. we re doing very well in iraq. our soldiers are fighting and fighting like never before and the results are very good so i wanted to let everyone know. bill: president trump addressing members of congress on iraq. this after the senate armed services committee had a closed door meeting on the military budget increase. the chairman of that committee is with me senator john mccain. become to america s newsroom. good morning to you. good morning, bill. bill: late last night the white house you were there after the iraqi prime minister said isis militarily will be defeated within a matter of weeks. is that the timetable you understand, sir? i m not sure about that, bill, but i m satisfied we re on the right track and using the right assets and increasing the latitude of the military commanders to take action as the situation warrants. we re devoting sufficient assets and a strategy general mattis and general dunford are developing. it s not completely developed yet but it s a dramatic shift from the failed strategies or lack of strategy of the previous administration. bill: you made a commitment on behalf of the commander in chief, i think you d agree with that and you need people like general mattis to lead the charge. you re saying you see a difference. and the national security team the president has assembled around him are stronger than i ve ever seen. i m very pleased with that. these are top-notch people. bill: isis is one topic. russia s another. sean spicer said the media obsessed when he said this yesterday. if the president puts russian salad dressing tonight on his salad that s a connection. bill: is that appropriate? the issue has to be thoroughly investigated. i m pleased the senate intelligence committee seems to be working together. senator burr and senator warren. i think it reached a level where it requires a select committee but there s too many unanswered questions and it seems every few days there s a new revelation of some kind. obviously there s a schism in the house intelligence committee. i guarantee you you cannot get things accomplished unless it s done in a bipartisan way. bill: you said yesterday there s other russian activities going on. it s a broad statement, i know, but to whom were you referring or to what? what do you know? this morning there was an nbc report about money going through cyprus attributed to manafort. whether they re valid or not i can t make a judgment. bill: some believe the white house is trying to prevent the hearings and the information getting out there. i do not. i do not believe the white house is trying to block this investigation. i do believe that congress nunes should have consulted with other members of the committee before he took the action he took. and i believe the example set by committees in the past and now being set by the senate intelligence committee is the way you should move forward and get things resolved. bill: last topic. i don t know how you feel about going back to health care but the president appears ready to do that. if you can pick your list of priorities what would it be? my first priority would be to try to have a choice for citizens. in arizona it s imploding. premiums have gone up 125% down to one provider down from as many as a dozen. it s a disaster in my state and imploding and needs to be fixed. i hope we can come together and bring democrats along in these discussions. one of the problems is you can t do this kind of reform in a single party line basis. you have to get people together and sit them down and work this out. bill, we have to do something. bill: understood. thank you for coming back, senator. john mccain on the hill. shannon: our chief correspondent mike emanuel has been chasing devin nunes all over capitol hill and just tracked him down and has brand new information you ll hear here first. wanna get away? now you can with southwest fares as low as 59 dollars one-way. yes to low fares with nothing to hide. that s transfarency. home security. every situation is a little different. it could be about billing, simple questions like changing the phone number. sometimes, they want to upgrade, downgrade, but at the end of the day, you want to take care of the customer. one of the great things about comcast, there s always room to move up. of course, it depends on you, how hard you work. shannon: house intelligence committee chair devin nunes just speaking and mike emanuel tracked him down. good morning. devin nunes has called the calls for him to step down from the probe politics and he is heading for the united states capitol. he stopped and talked with us for a moment and here s what the chairman had to say. as far as i know they ve done little to look through the documents the intelligence community provided. we ll see who is doing a real investigation and you ll find out we re very much doing an investigation and have been for a long time. are you worried about being able to work with mr. schiff. we always want to keep the committee bipartisan but at the end of the day we ll do an investigation with or without them and if they want to participate that s fine. but the facts are pretty clear they have no we don t even know who the witnesses are they want to call. i would encourage you guys to start to follow them around and figure out who they want to bring in and interview. you heard me mention adam schiff. he s the top democrat on the house intelligence panel. there s been friction between schiff and chairman nunes with ranking member schiff asking him to recuse himself from the russia probe and chairman nunes is continuing to do work and calling on democrats to be bipartisan in the investigation. shannon: he s used to having the cameras all over him right now and the suggestion to you the media start following around the democrats and start asking them questions. mike emanuel. thank you. thank you. bill: 27 minutes past the hour. in a moment we ll take you to the stock market and see how the stocks are shaking up when the opening bell goes off and the panel will tell us what we really need to know with the russian connection. that s coming up next. 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he should voluntarily step down. there comes a time and i m putting on my lawyer hat where a person becomes a witness and he s acting as an investigator and having meeting with the white house that maybe are material to the investigation itself so when you become a witness you lose your objectivity and become the target of the information you re supposed to be investigation. i think it s in the best interest of the committee for him to recuse himself from the investigation and remain chair and let it proceed in a bipartisan manner. shannon: let s parse this. which investigation? he said what they talked to the white house about is separate about unmasking, surveilling, people would may have been caught up in that and how the information was disseminated. that s a different track and investigation and potential collusion with russia and the trump campaign. i think it s an investigation now where you can call it one but it s all intertwined. there s no way for him not to be able to separate these events because we re talking about the trump white house and talking about an investigation under his committee. the whole thing was about independent bipartisan investigation and until about ten days ago nunes and adam schiff were always together and were presenting together that bipartisan investigation. i think that s gone. that s totally gone now and whether it s politics or unforced errors this is just creating the need and the calls for an independent investigation and i don t think this committee s going to be able to put it back hannon: what do you what he told mike emanuel on capitol hill. we ll get to the truth and you ll see the investigation and with or without the democrats and people will see when it unfolds and he speaks with somebody with the confidence of knows what he s doing. but the key phrase is with or without the democrats. that s not how you ll get to the bottom of this. i think for the president and the administration it would be far better to have either the kind of bipartisan investigation that seems to be going on in the senate side and was happening on the house side is not any more because if there s nothing there and you get that kind of investigation that clears the white house that s what they need to get all this russia stuff behind them. instead i think this just prolongs and creates the rancor and makes it partisan which will not serve the white house well even if they re clear. shannon: he has the confidence of speaker paul ryan and they worked on different committees and said he has his full confidence. how do republicans walk through this? do they go down an independent body and i understand we re waiting on things from the nsa and they re cooperating and the i am my implication is they will get those do they wait it out? nunes himself said and i agree with joe if this can t be bipartisan there s a taint and we should have an independent investigation because the constitutional is for congress to be the oversight. this is their job. they need to do their job and do it right and they need to do it in a bipartisan fashion. investigation should not be skew by ideology or affiliation. shannon: you think they can keep it. and if nunes were to do that he takes the heat off the speaker. shannon: the fbi is still investigating all these things in a separate branch and track. do you have confidence in director comey? there s another thing politicized throughout the campaign and there s more faith in the justice department and comey than there s no faith right now on the house intelligence committee unless nunes no, i agree with brad. it can be if nunes recuses himself and removes himself from leading on this part of the investigation. let somebody else take it and get the committee back to the bipartisanship that existed ten, 15 days ago. shannon: they ll start singing kumbaya there s a lot of agreeing happening. bill: as the debate over sanctuary cities continues homeland secretary john kelly and we ll hear from several marries. the closed-door meeting comes after the a.g., jeff sessions threatened to cut off funding to sanctuary cities. what reception does secretary kelly expect to receive at the meeting, doug? first off this invitation was extended to dhs secretary john kelly by the u.s. conference of mayors which is a bipartisan organization so in that sense we expect cordiality and the issue of immigration is partisan and jeff sessions announced the new immigration policy will be enforced by depriving sanctuary cities of funding and that s in the going over over with some. our job is to enforce the laws of the direct of columbia and we re not local i iso officials. we believe it will make our community less safe and as chief of police i don t think i should be involved in behavior that makes our city less safe. and this from boston mayor martin walsh he wrote the safety and well being of our residents is and will continue to be my top priority as the mayor of boston. the threat of cutting federal funding that aim to foster trusting relationships between the law communities is irresponsible. the structure in most big cities from the school boards to the city councils is almost overwhelmingly predictable. we expect a court fight. bill: there s similarities over this and president trump s travel ban. how does that play out in a similar fashion? precisely. it lends credence to the idea it s going to be a court fight in the making. recall president trump when he issued the travel ban repeatedly sided the u.s. code. this is the sole responsibility of the president of the united states. here s what the president and his minions said repeatedly. suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by the president. ok. now, this isn t just me, this is for obama, for ronald reagan, for the president. this was done very importantly for security. but you ll recall the ninth circuit court of appeals paid no attention to that provision in the u.s. code when they ov overturned the travel ban. expect the same on the immigration policy. bill: thank you, doug. shannon: a fox news on brexit. the u.k. officially filing divorce papers with the european union. nine months after voting to leave theresa may invoking article 50 that will undo four decades of treaties and regulation. bill: and stung new details in the corruption case against congressman aaron schock and that an fbi informant cost him his job. we ll look at the evidence. plus, there is this. shannon: stunning new video from the frontlines in mosul as the pentagon looks at a report an airstrike may have killed hundreds of civilians. the latest on that investigation. nosy neighbor with a keen sense of smell. glad bag, full of trash. what happens next? nothing. only glad has febreze to neutralize odors for 5 days. guaranteed. even the most perceptive noses won t notice the trash. be happy. it s glad. when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn t have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. bill: attorneys for aaron schock now say a congressional staffer acts as an fbi and saying it was a violation of his rights. he is set for corruption and fraud charge. with me judge andrew napolitano. nice to see you. good morning to you. you ve had a few quiet days. you ve likely needed them. before we get to the case facing the former congressman of illinois you put out a statement saying you were confident in the story you reported here in the past month. yes. bill: do you still stand by that? yes, and the sources stand by it. the american public needs to know more about this rather than less because a lot of the government surveillance authorities will expire in the fall and there ll be a great debate on how much authority we want the government to have to surveil us. the more the american public knows the more informed and congress s decisions will be. bill: so no change then. correct. bill: and we ll see how it plays out. i think more will come out. bill: more on aaron schock. they alleged the fbi wired one of his former assistants. so far we re ok. passively sitting back and engaging the criminal target in a target as an acceptable law enforcement tool but they allege he went through desks and hacked computers. that s a profound violation of the congressman s rights. under the supervision of the fbi it would be a profound violation of the fbi s role in law enforcement. it s so serious it could result in the indictment against him. the kicker is they didn t need to do this. the evidence of congressman s guilt the misuse of federal and campaign funds for personal benefits is overwhelming. they didn t need what they gathered bill: they say the documents are his own personal property. i thought he worked for the people? it depends on what they took. if it s government property and the young man took them, the young man committed a crime. if it s personal property and he young man took them he committed a crime in either case they can t be use. if the fbi directed the young man to do this then they improperly investigated the congressman. the fbi may say we don t know everything he was doing. we weren t in the office and he wanted to play fbi agent on his own. that s what a judge will have to decide. bill: so they have protection from the executive branch is what you re arguing here? we all have constitutional protections but congress has more because it s a different branch of the government. if the executive branch interferes with the legislative branch that violates what we call the separation of powers. very interesting case. bill: apparently took a plane to see a chicago bears game. this is the allegation now. had super bowl tickets, world series tickets and sold them for money. can you defend this? that misrepresented the time he drove in his car to be compensated for more than he was entitled to and didn t report income on his income tax returns. the evidence of his guilt is overwhelming but he may skate because of what this over zealous behavior of the informant. bill: how often does the fbi need an insider to get information they looking for? very common and often it s someone against whom the fbi has evidence and that person agrees to work with the fbi in return for more lenient treatment. so we don t know the name of this person or what the fbi may have on him or why he did what he did. all this is going to come out. bill: thank you, judge. as i say, good to see you. good to see you. bill: shannon. shannon: we know private colleges are highly profitable. now a new study shows despite having tons of cash they still get plenty of taxpayer money. bill: and democrats not backing down promising to keep supreme court nominee neil gorsuch off the high court. does he make the bench? we ll talk to chuck grassley. he s our guest live. i repeat, we re going to get judge gorsuch confirmed. there ll be an opportunity for the democrats to invoke and i m confident he ll be confirmed. right information at the right moment. and when you filter out the noise, it s easy to turn your vision into action. it s your trade. e trade. start trading today at etrade.com it s a shocking study. a new study found over a six-year period ivy league colleges brought in more money from your taxpayer dollars than from all payments of tuition from undergraduate students that s despite the fact they have more than $119 billion in endowment money. it s part of a 43-page report first seen from fox news and released by open the books and spoke to the founder. it is a market for government contract at the ivy league with nearly $26 billion of federal contracts and grants. it dwarves the number of tuition of $22 billion collected over the course of the last six years. now, open the book studied all ivy league schools to understand their sources of funding between 2010 and 2015 some makes sense like the study of aids, others not as the study of drinking and taken together it s more than the federal government gave to 16 state governments. the spending is controversial because the schools have enormous resources at their finger tips. $119 billion in endowment dollars raised from donors and the total is equivalent to $2 million per undergraduate student. were they to continue to receive contributions at present rates they could provide free tuition to their entire student body forever. to be sure endowments on the for spending in a single year and no one expects ivies to give them a free ride forever but heavy sponsorship calls into question the use of taxpayer dollars and with parent across the country facing annual tuition of $33,000 at private colleges and more than $9,000 for state schools, well, they must be wondering, why do these wealthy institutions need my taxpayer dollars? and shannon, we reached out to all the schools for comment this morning and still waiting to hear back. shannon: let us know. that is fascinating. thank you so much. thank you. bill: i always liked midnight blue from the 24 pack but that didn t make the cut. shannon: you want it to go or save it? bill: save it. i think it s shave. shannon: what s the 64 with the sharp enner on the end. bill: i liked it. are republicans getting ready for a do-over on health care reform? the talk on capitol hill for the second chance to undo you obamacare and what the president said about that last night. shannon: we re getting word of some activity on capitol hill on the house side. there are all kinds of conflicting accounts of what s happening. we re hearing of armored vehicles and alerts telling congressional staff to avoid the area. mike emanuel is on the hill. let s see what he can find out. hi, mike. good morning. we re outside the rayburn house office building and you see police activity. our understanding is a suspect in a vehicle hit a police cruiser and may have hit several other pedestrians in the immediate area. out of abundance of caution they shut down the area behind me and investigating. we understand the suspect has been apphended but we don t have a lot of other detail. the situation as the business day is starting on capitol hill there s a lot of going on and so they are shutting it down to make sure there s no other danger at this point but our understanding is a suspect has been taken no custody after hit police cruiser and perhaps sitting several pedestrians at a busy time in capitol hill with the workday just getting underway. shannon: and in that area there s vehicle traffic and pedestrians as people flood too the buildings and there s barriers and screenings. the police presence in that area is always 24 hours a day exceptionally heavy. you re spot on with that. there s a lot of screening areas across the immediate vicinity and we have a ton of spring breakers in town and interest groups in town coming to talk to lawmakers. you have people talk to their representatives on capitol hill. there s tons of traffic, foot traffic. there are lawmakers coming into work today. there are staffers coming to capitol hill. so it s a really busy time. if somebody was looking to do some damage on capitol hill there were a lot of people walk around at the time. they shut down the immediate area and there s a ton of police activity trying to get to the bottom of it. shannon: that s a main thoroughfare for folks travelling through there to have the roads closed down will have a significant impact on the morning. as well as you mentioned it s spring break and there s the cherry plos blossom in d.c. bill: that s the vehicle in question and the pictures left of the windshield could likely be where bullets struck. we want to get to our capitol hill producer chad wergrum. let s go to chad for what he s learning. what do you see? there s an effort by u.s. capitol police to make a traffic stop near the library of congress and the vehicle took off down independence avenue past the rayburn building and past the botanical garden. the vehicle did not stop i am told and we have barricades they erected after 9/11 to keep vehicles from coming in and when you get an incident like this like in 2013 they raised the barriers to keep the vehicle inside the perimeter. they raised the barrier at the foot of independence avenue as the vehicle was going west. at that point the driver still did not comply with orders. this is near first and washington by the rayburn building and tried to evade officers. i m told by official as they hit civilian cars including capitol police vehicles and because the suspect in question did not continue to comply that s when u.s. capitol police officers discharged their weapons. i m told though this happened near the rayburn building they have not put the building on lockdown or anything but they did ap rehelped apprehend the suspect. we ve had random crime and car chase have moved to the capitol hill perimeter. the capitol police have their own police department for the buildings and several blocks out. we had an incident during the state of the union that was a car chase that wound up within a block of where this incident is and has nothing to do with disrupting the government and it was just a car chase that went into washington, d.c. five or six years ago there was a traffic stop that went bad through union station and went down louisiana avenue down the wrong direction on the senate side of the capitol before they drew a weapon on officers and they shot and killed him. you have to remember what happens with u.s. capitol police. they never know if it s somebody just trying to get away from police your garden variety police but whether it s a diversionary tactic or someone wanting to do harm. we have no idea if it s in that realm. what we do know is they were trying to stop the car near the library of congress for whatever reason, traffic stop, could be a wanted tag, what have you and the driver alluded them. they went down capitol hill and they fired their weapons. to be clear, they did not hit anybody. they apprehended the suspect without hitting him. bill: chad, thank you for that. he s near the scene. we ll let you get more information. we re getting wires in and based on the reporting police responded when the vehicle did not stop and between the map you can run a couple blocks between the library of congress and the rayburn building. the a.p. is suggesting it was a woman behind the wheel and several gunshots were heard. mike emanuel can you hear me and where are you? i m outside the cordoned off area where the suspect vehicle is at this point. we re hearing the driver of the car hit a police cruiser and may have hit several pedestrians including perhaps some capitol police officers and we re hearing shots were fired when officers saw the vehicle was not stopping and behaving in an erratic way and i m standing here beyond the cordoned off area where we expect police to give us an update in a matter of moments but they re shooing us from the area. i m near washington and independence avenue for those familiar with the area. a very busy area near capitol hill outside the house office buildings. this one being rayburn. whatever the driver s intentions were was stopped before getting into a more sensitive area but clearly capitol police do not mess around when someone acts in an aggressive way. bill: the driver been taken away? let me take a look. i m looking for signs of an ambulance. i see police vehicles. i do not see an ambulance in the immediate area but behind a bush or tree there may be one. lots of emergency vehicles in the immediate area. lots of police tape up and they re trying to get to the bottom of it. bill: you were inside the capitol building. assume you did not hear shots while inside, correct? did not hear anything. in fact we talked to chairman devin nunes about the russia probe and were going to head over to look for the top democrat on the panel, adam schiff and got alerts there was something going on and raced out to the area outside the rayburn building and we did not hear shots but it appears shots may have been fired. the latest is the suspect was not hurt but has been taken from the immediate area, bill. bill: thank you. get more information and we ll come back to you. back to chad pergram. where have you moved in the past couple minutes? i was on capitol hill and out to the degree i can. you can imagine it s locked up on capitol hill. they did not lock don the capitol nor the rayburn house building so my vantage point is limited. i don t have a good eye shot on what s going on at the bottom of the hill there. again, what we re trying to figure out is who may have been hurt here if there were vehicles or people in vehicles. as mike said this is a busy area. it s a wednesday in congress it s usually the busiest day on capitol hill. you have people funneling out of taxi cabs and ubers to meet with members. if you had something go awry you could have had other people injured with stray bullets or vehicles. sometimes independence avenue is bad with traffic at 9:30 on a wednesday. bill: you believe it s a traffic stop gone bad. tat that s what it seems to be. have you general traffic stops in and around capitol hill. they re not terrorism incidents. it s always the battle on capitol hill with what they should do with u.s. capitol police. there was an earful they got that ended up a block near health and human services because they didn t know if it was a diversionary tactic. it was a car chase which started in maryland in a suburban county that came all the way to capitol hill and ended up at the foot of capitol hill when the state of the union was going on. just somebody with a warrant. the question is should they have diverted resources for a high-speed chase versus protecting those on the capitol. they re devoted to protecting the house office buildings and the street patrol division and they routinely c traffic stops. bill: chad pergram on capitol hill and shannon bream is observing from there as well. shannon. shannon: bill, this is a few blocks from where we are on the other side of capitol hill. we have chris stirewalt with me and we ll talk about things eventually but some context first. what happened on the house side it s the heart you have the capitol and a block from the library of congress and supreme court. we know they don t play around here because when we drive in on this road every morning and those barriers chad talked about there s a constant presence of heavily armed officers 24/7 over here. for people who don t hang out in washington in real america it s like airport level security. people with long guns and people in bullet-proof vests. you know you re in a secure place and pity the poor criminal who accidentally happens into the bear s den and does something that triggers the warnings. as we saw in london last week when you re talking about this is sorry, world, the most important legislative body in the world what is done here or often not done here is more consequential than any place else and know it s a prime target. it s the missed target on 9/11. for the capitol police if you re having a barred bad morning and don t comply airbags deploy. shannon: they re standing on the street corners. we have one by fox where they re directing you and there s cones up to make sure your car doesn t go near the capitol and the barriers it sounds like they deployed them and they good up and you ll hit a wall. and then instead of trying to keep you out they ll keep you in and answer their questions. it s a rough wednesday. shannon: to give people context too, if you head out past the capitol you ll hit maryland. eventually in pennsylvania too. shannon: for things we said and chad mentioned the earlier criminal cases that had nothing to do with terrorism people trafficking through the area ten years ago the capitol was in a bad neighborhood and now it s in a nice neighborhood and it s been cleaned up but the bad neighborhood is still walking distance from here. shannon: and driving distance. bill, back to you in new york city. bill: one of the things you think about with the incident in london from just a week ago is could it happen here and certainly it can. that s one of the things you immediately start to think and consider but there s no evidence to suggest that s the case so far in capitol hill. back it our folks in washington in a moment. also in a moment here, there is a warning for republicans as a showdown looms over judge neil gorsuch. democrats lining up against him. they promised a fight. senator chuck grassley chairs the senate judiciary committee and we ll talk about that live next on america s newsroom. bill: back to washington. the reports are the driver are said to be a woman and the person has been taken to custody and shots were possibly fired. we want to get back to chad pergram to clear up things as we continue to get more information. what do you have? the most we can tell are things on capitol hill, sessions and hearings are continuing as normal and this was some sort of a traffic stop that went awry. we don t have any indication yet as to why they were trying to stop the vehicle whether or not it was erratic driving or a warrant but we have confirmed it was a female suspect and when they refused to comply with the order they chased them down capitol hill down independence avenue and past the rayburn building and one officer discharged their weapon. we don t know what led to that. we had an incident where a suspect was killed several years ago after a short high-speed chase down the wrong way down louisiana avenue where the suspect drew a weapon and they shot and killed that suspect. but if you are behaving pretty badly on capitol hill and you demonstrate in your behavior where you come into the building and say you have something on you or your driving and you re not stopping they re going to take this pretty seriously if you get up around the environs of capital and that s what happened in 2013. she drove to the white house and an officer and drove to capitol hill and there was a chase around the capitol and how do you think they ll respond when you go to the two main points of american government the white house and capitol but this incident seems to be limited just to capitol hill and seems to be emanating from a traffic stop. we need to know the purpose of the traffic stop and why a member discharged their service call. bill: our capitol hill producer on scene. ambulances were sent to the scene but apparently didn t take anyone to the hospital and back to mike emanuel nearby as well. what do you have? though the area is cordoned off near the u.s. botanical gardens business is going on as usual. you see tourists milling around and staffers. it s like a normal day on capitol hill except the one area behind me is cordoned off and creating quite a traffic mess in the immediate area but life is going on as normal with people wearing their various activists t-shirts heading into the complex to see their representatives and senators and make their voices heard on capitol hill. we have police investigating behind me and police tape up next to me. it s create traffic mess but life seems to be returning to normal in terms of the normal comings and goings in terms of visiting the nation s capital. bill: it was interesting to hear chad describe in what amounts to a zero tolerance policy in terms of capitol hill police is that your view as well? no question, bill. the united states capitol building over my right shoulder is a gigantic symbol of america. they do not mess around thinking obviously there may be some terrorist and others out there that may want to do harm to this symbol of america s greatness and they do not mess around at all when you get anywhere close to the capitol complex and you ve been down for inaugurations and such and there s tight security but any signs of threatening or hostile behavior the professionals here on the ground do not mess around. bill: just to give our viewers a sense of the geography based on what we understand, mike, the vehicle stoppage occurred around the library of congress. but the come driving got all the way to botanical gardens. that s several blocks. i m going to guess half a while. perhaps more. what is your guess? at least several blocks. to give you a sense of the geography to my left over here is the rayburn house office building. as you come back this direction you get towards where the car is stopped and between the rayburn house office building and the united states capitol building is where you find the cordoned off area with lots of police vehicle and the suspect vehicle in the middle of it. a sensitive area between the house office building where many house members have their offices and staffs and then the united states capitol across the street. they did not mess around in terms of stopping the vehicle in its tracks and arresting the suspect. bill: chad, you re suggesting in parts of washington life just keeps moving forward. it s not just parts of washington but inside the capitol. it s usually a good sign they don t view an imminent threat, something on the terrorism matrix if they don t lock down the house and senate office buildings. you get to the botanical garden and you re a little bit away. you re in the shadow of the capitol to be sure but the complex is a big place. here at the botanical gard jon much garden and in the furthest senate office building as the crow flies is about three-quarters of a mile but if they perceive there was a broader threat and something was truly related to terrorism they d like this place down tighter than a drum. they have not done that. the fact there s access points closed, there s a traffic jam obviously because it closed off the roadway there. it takes a while to reconstruct the crime scene and determine what happened but hearings are going on in the capitol. members are meeting with constituents and boy scout and girl scout troops. those types of usual wednesday activities are going on as planned. bill: very good to have you with us again today. our capitol hill producer chad pergram who fires off about 1200 e-mails to our staff about every day. good work there and to our colleague mike emanuel on scene where you see the police tape wrapped around the vehicle. our understanding, a woman was behind the vehicle. shots were fired. we don t know if any shots hit the woman driving that vehicle. she apparently has been taken to the hospital and she appears to be ok based on the early reporting we have received so far. wow. that is happening on the capitol and back to shannon there as well. shannon: we ll keep an eye on that situation as we get more facts and business on capitol hill is continuing on and chuck grassley is busy chairing the senate judiciary committee and joins us live. as this is unfolding you have work going on including the looming battle over supreme court nominee neil gorsuch. senate minority leaders saying they can t vote for him. the minority leader s words were he didn t acquit himself well or impress our caucus. your response? i think anybody who watched the 22 hours he answered questions over a period of two days for the committee knows he s well qualified. he didn t make any mistakes. when they say he didn t answer questions he adopted what we call the ginsburg standard where she said in 93 you can t say anything about any case that may come up before you in the future. don t know what those are so give your general approach to the law and kagan and sotomayor followed the same ginsburg principle. nobody can find any fault with this well qualified judge to be a justice on the supreme court and think he ll be approved at least a week from friday or a week from saturday and he ll be on the supreme court. shannon: so chairman, do you think if that takes a changing of the rules the nuclear option they ll be willing to change that in the senate that good. let me ask this way and if you don t like it ask again. we ll see justice gorsuch will be on the supreme court one way or another. shannon: we know the committee vote is monday. we ll watch that and the proceedings after that. chairman, i hate to cut you short we have to get back to the situation on capitol hill. thank you for your time. see you next week. bill: shannon, we may get a press conference on behalf of capitol hill police and as we await let s get back to mike emanuel. what more do you have? we see the vehicle with plights lights on and what else have you learned about the woman behind the wheel? mike, have you still with me? we ll pause on that. no problem. we ll get the contact established in a moment. i also see another monitor where the spokeswoman appears from capitol hill will brief reporters in a moment. i ll try to get the audio in a moment and we ll bring it to you as soon as they re ready. if you want to feed that in my ear i d love to hear it. an erratic and aggressive driver in the vicinity of 100 independence avenue southwest. while attempting to stop the vehicle on independence vehicle the driver nearly struck officers and one other vehicle and a brief pursuit followed on independence avenue southwest. during the attempt to arrest the suspect shots were fired however, no individuals were injured. the investigation is being done by the capitol hill police. the investigation is in the preliminary stages and more detail released as warrant. though preliminary the incident seems to be criminal in nature with no connection to terrorism. reporter: any sense of motive? did the suspect suggest they were trying to get in the capitol? there s no nexus for terrorism. it was just a traffic stop. reporter: how many shots were fired and where can the shots land? we won t those details. thank you. reporter: a man or woman? it is a woman. reporter: a female? age? bill: more information from the capitol hill police and criminal in nature. no connection to terrorism and described as merely a traffic stop. shortly before 10:00 am eastern time on capitol hill near the library of congress police say a driver struck a u.s. capitol police cruiser near the capitol and later taken to custody but not before the driver of the vehicle went several blocks from the library of congress and the west side and ambulance was sent in and went to the scene and did not take anyone to the hospital and possible but not confirmed shots were fired. the female driver was ordered to stop and she is now in custody. back to chad pergram with us again. what more can you add after that, criminal in nature. no nexus to terrorism. it s not something broader but why u.s. capitol police are on the job and why they work with other law enforcement agencies are because you never know what you re dealing with. that s the trick on capitol hill. if you re going to drive and behave erratically near the white house this will happen and we re told they started to notice this vehicle driving erratically and the u.s. capitol m mes-police viewed it as erratic behavior maybe somebody intoxicated or not with it, what have you and observed the behavior with the vehicle at the bottom of capitol hill essentially going east up capitol hill going east on the house side near the botanical garden and rayburn house building and followed the car to where you get where the cannon building is and library of congress. at that point that s where the driver did a u-turn and they re like ok this person is trying to escape us and they have barriers they can block off the capitol and trap the vehicle in there which is what they were doing. apparently as they spursued the vehicle she was driving in the wrong lane down the hill and that s a major hazard and got to where the barriers are and tried to get her out of the vehicle. she was not complying with their orders when she was at the barricade and i am told she quote, revved the engine, where they thought she d try to take off or ram the barricade and she lurched forward and that may have been where the shots were fired. i m told at least one officer fired a shot. we don t have any pedestrians injured in all this. we have at least one u.s. capitol police vehicle and one civilian vehicle hit but nobody injured in a major way. again it comes back to you don t know what you re dealing with. you have someone who s acting erratically. you don t know if they have ill intent or terrorism and after what happened in london outside parliament there we had a number of these incidents over the years on capitol hill where i talked about miriam carey who drove to the capitol and you go to the two seats of american government what do you think will happen. the fellow last march who tried to draw on officers and they didn t know it was a fake weapon and if you have that behavior what do you think will happen. bill: there s zero tolerance level by capitol hill police is important to emphasize. it s amazing what you see. i go through the capitol report every week and i ve not seen it this week and you have these incidents where they pull a driver over for dui or a staffer tries to bring a firearm in. they have a permit or open carry and it s a problem in the direct of columbia and on capitol hill and sometimes random people go through security and they have weed or marijuana on them and get busted for that. there is kind of a zero tolerance policy. there s a bigger issue with something that might lead to terrorism than somebody with marijuana with them but they re pretty strict up here. bill: thank you, chad. back to shannon also on capitol hill. shannon: we ll check in with mike emanuel tracking news if he news feature. we don t think there s ongoing continuing threat as chad said and you reported the center is open and thousands of people are through the visitor center every day and it sounds like business as usual. is that what you re seeing? no question. and i saw two people walk through the shot. i m looking closer at them and they have metropolitan police markings on their jackets and explains why they re walking through the scene. what lowered a lot of blood pressure around here is hearing the spokesperson saying no nexus to terrorism. in the world we live in post 9/11 that s the number one concern. somebody coming to the area to do harm to our system of government and lawmakers and innocent americans working here. hearing it s a traffic stop you can still see the barricade that says stop that s up on the scene in front of where the gray car is stopped. basically it looks like a normal police investigation. there s evidence markings on the ground and the barricades are still up and the police cruisers are still on scene and looking at the situation but temperatures are down quite a bit and looks like a normal day otherwise with people coming and going into the rayburn office building and coming and going like nothing ever happened. i m sure if you re still trying to get somewhere in the immediate area traffic is a mess but it s washington, d.c. on a wednesday so that s not unusual but it looks like things have calmed down quite a bit since they think it s an isolated incident and traffic stop gone bad. shannon: covering the hill there s alerts go out where as the closed for hours over something that turns out to be nothing and so this is a positive sign. it s calmed down quite a bit since the time we ve been out here. it looks like they re picking up some of the evidence markers or placing them. they re going about the normal police work and figure out what went down and get details for possible prosecution and i m sure we ll get a sense what was going on with this woman and why the traffic stop went so bad. shannon: thank you for your updates. again, if this is just a traffic stop this is the worst possible place this woman could have decide to go rogue on getting pulled over. not where you want to do it. bill: it appears to be resolved. if there are more developments we ll take our viewers back there to capitol hill. in a moment we ll hear what the president had to say on what happens on health care 2.0. would you describe it as easy? his comment next. bipartisan. people showed up i wasn t expecting which is a very good thing. a very, very good thing and i know we ll make a deal on health care. bill: president trump sounding confident he can deliver on one of his biggest promises at one point saying it s easy. marc thiessen, good morning. welcome back. i know we ll all make a deal on health care. it s an easy one. maybe there s some sarcasm thrown in that comment. characterize it. does it happen or not? no. nothing s going to be easy with the situation on capitol hill but this especially will not be easy. trump s premise is he ll let obamacare collapse and it will quet get so bad the democrats will beg for a change. premiums are skyrocketing, absolutely fact but the problem is 83% of the people on obamacare get subsidies and under the law they increase dollar per dollar they increase and all of us would subsidize it will get screwed and second of all insurers are pulling out. that s a fact. there will be some states in the next year or so that don t have insurance in the exchanges and the commercial insurers pull out and medicaid hmos which provide bad coverage are coming in and obamacare will limp along. it will be worse care at a higher cost which is the opposite of what president obama promised so democrats have no incentive to come to trump and say let s work out a deal because they re fine with the taxpayers make more to subsidize people who need them for higher premiums. bill: last hour we talked to trey gowdy and john mccain and i asked what the priority should be and they said health care. what about the republican situation on this? look at the senate. we re about to the democrats are not interested in working with republicans on anything right now. they re filibustering neil gorsuch probably the most qualified person in near history for supreme court so the republicans will have to pull the nuclear opening to get him on the court. in the wake of that fallout does anyone think they ll come together and sing and have a bipartisan health care bill? i don t think that s going to happen and by april 28 if we don t get the votes for the budget the government shuts down. there s a big mess on capitol hill and nobody is talking about coming together and holding hands and doing bipartisan health care reform now. it s not going to happen. bill: it was talked about with great enthusiasm in the republican meeting and it s been described we ll see where that goes. i ll mark you down for a maybe. always optimistic. bill: marc thiessen thank you so much. shannon: a busy morning in washington as there are growing calls for house intelligence committee chair devin nunes to step down or with regard to the investigation involving the trump transition, russia surveillance, all those things. mike emanuel tracked down congressman nunes a short time ago and here s what he said. as far as i know they ve done little to look through the documents the intelligence committee provided. at the end of the day we ll get through the truth and find out who s doing a real investigation and you ll find out we are very much doing an investigation and have been for a long time. are you worried about being able to work with mr. schiff? we re always concerned about this and always want to keep the committee bipartisan but at the end of the day we ll do an investigation with or without them and if they want to participate that s fine but the facts of the matter are pretty clear that they have no we don t even know who the witnesses are they want to call. so i d encourage you guys to start to follow them around and find out who they want to bring in and interview. shannon: congressman schiff the ranking democrat on the committee calling for nunes it step away. we re joined by our panel kristen soltis anderson and jessica tarlov. you have congressman schiff the ranking democrat who made statements of his own people feel haven t been backed up by evidence at least not publicly saying there s been collusion and it s now beyond circumstantial evidence. if people are going to be critical of nunes for saying what he s saying waiting on the documents is there the same standard with congressman schiff. if you re going to make a bold claim and talk collusion between russia and the trump campaign or anybody else for that matter you better have the evidence to back that up and be willing to show it to the american people. there s so many falsehoods. a new poll shows 74% of republicans believe trump s wiretap claim which has been de bunked by democrats and we have to make sure about the messaging and make sure the american people know what happened. i m all for showing the evidence but concerned about devin nunes. we don t know why he was in the white house and no one knew he was coming and where d he get the information and the unmasking of names and we don t know who the names are and there s a lot to be concerned about but it s not just a par partisan issue. some republicans want nunes to step down. shannon: lots to unpack. chairman nunes has said if you re talking about the specific language of wiretapping he says no evidence of that but he said there s something he found concerning saying all americans should be concerned about incidental collection or surveillance that involved the trump team after the election. he felt it was substantive and significant enough to talk to the white house about it. he said we on nsa documents to prove his point. there s a lot we don t know. and some things we do and you had national security adviser michael flynn sep count from the role because of a conversation with a russian official recorded by u.s. intelligence officials. his name was unmasked and leaked to the public. this is the sort of thing now the committee is investigating. in addition to investigating whether the trump campaign was doing anything wrong. you now have so many targets being investigated for so many things it can muddy the water. as jessica mentioned you have 74% of republicans who believe the trump campaign was wiretapped. the idea there was an fbi person tapping the wires at trump tower has been debunked is being looked at and appearances matter a lot in politics and that s the challenge they ll have to address. shannon: jessica is this leading to a point where if the democrats can prove a link between the trump campaign and russia it undermines his presidency. is the the ultimate goal? i m not sure. i think democrats are split on this. i have personally talked to a lot of friends about what happens next. say there is proof of collusion between russia and the trump campaign will there be an election? formerly i guess mike pence would take over but that doesn t make sense in this circumstance because the idea would be hillary clinton would be the rightful winner in the election. shannon: we re not talking about changing votes especially not with the constitution in place. absolutely not. that s not in question but whether propaganda that came from russia and influencing from other channels influenced the outcome and democrats need to get clear what it is they re advocating for and what the end result might be. shannon: jessica and kristen. i m sorry. we have to cut it short. there s a lot going on capitol hill. we ll check back on the activity on capitol hill. bill. bill: thank you, shannon. we were talking to our producer on the hill, chad pergram and mike emanuel. the driver apparently revved the engine and that was considered a threat on behalf of capitol hill police and at least one bullet was fired and prior to that the woman did a u-turn and went down the hill and retraced her original steps before the capitol hill police threw up the barricade near the house rayburn engine and the driver stopped and revved the engine and lurched forward and one shot was fired and the driver was not hit and the woman is on the screen on the right is the suspect. she s apparently been removed from the scene. there s no nexus to terrorism so far up this incident. that from capitol hill police reporting a short time ago. they describe it as a traffic stop. more to come. in a moment, facing a crisis in america. how to stop the abuse of prescription drugs. the white house is about to take action. that s next. our heart healthy idaho potatoes, america s favorite potatoes, and donating to local charities along the way. but now it s finally back home where it belongs. aw man. hey, wait up. where you goin ? here we go again. and the butchery begins. what am i gonna wear? this party is super fancy. let s go. i m ready. are you my uber? 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[ doorbell rings ] par-tay! xfinity watchathon week starts april 3. get unlimited access to all of netflix and more, free with xfinity on demand. guest writes in the wall street journal about the problem area in the doctor s office. dr. marc siegel part of the fox news medical team. broad question, how did we get here? well, one way we know which is we have leaky borders and lots of illegal drugs are coming across but four of five people on heroin started in the doctor s office who needs codeine for pain and they feel good and i still haven t involved the problem. where d the back pain come from. could i use heat, physical therapy or acupuncture. in new jersey governor christie has started to crackdown on some of us. 31 doctors under investigation. bill: you write four of five heroin abusers started with prescriptions and doctors pain training is minimal. we don t have enough training on back and farm it out to pain specialists who also over prescribe opioids and governor christie says it s a disease. i say it s worse. opioi opioids grab the soul. president trump talks about the look in someone s eyes who are addicted. addicts can t break it. it comes back. even if you put a person in the treatment program. it comes back. now the treatment programs if they have counseling and 12-step programs are successful part of the time but we need more people that are trained and need doctors to not cause this problem in the first place. bill: you re working hard and fast and trying to see as many as patients on a daily basis and many working at the same speed and sometimes you take a shortcut to move in the next patient. does that suggest training as you described minimal? that s the number one problem you re talking about now. i call it the by the way prescription. you re on the way to the next patient and they re on the way out the door. doc, by the way can i have the percocet. bill: thank you. back to shannon, now. shannon: the white house is taking an active role in efforts to revive a deal on health care. the president says it s easy. newt gingrich will be here live . r great rides.
missiles are not used to bomb runways. officials say the strike seen here from the two u.s. navy destroyers was meant to sent a message to the assad regime and its allies. a russian drone was seen over the hospital where victim s of the chemical attack were taken. on a lighter note, the fox news learned the skipper of one of the warships that launched missiles at that syrian airfield is a graduate of the u.s. naval academy. the u.s. ambassador to the united nations would not rule out more strikes from the commander s ship. we are prepared to do more. but we hope that will not be necessary. reporter: i m told one of those warships in the eastern mediterranean is steaming toward an undisclosed location where the ship will rearm. kelly: the u.s. taking a closer look at the relationship between syria and russia. nikki haley telling a special u.n. session that syria was able to carry out the brutal chemical attack because of russia s support. assad did this because he those could get away with it. he thought he could get away with it because he knew russia would have his back. that changed last night. as i warned on wednesday, when the international community consistently fails in its duty to act collectively, there are times when states are compelled to take their own actions. the indiscriminate use of chemical weapons against innocent civilians is one of those times. kelly: joining me now, israel s ambassador to the u.n. thank you for joining us. i want to get to what ambassador nikki haley said. she said any time the international community fail to the respond to this type chemical attack, do you agree? absolutely. it sends a clear message by telling the russian community we ll not tolerate the use and spread of chemical weapons. and the message was sent to do mass discuss, iran, north korea and the security council that sat idly by. the iranians, when they see instability, they are happy. today they are taking advantage of what s happening in syria to build their presence in syria in the future like what they are doing in lebanon. the control of hezbollah, the terrorist organization. 100,000 rockets in hezbollah. they want to see the same in syria. hopefully we ll see some kind of understanding and iranian militia on the bored with israel. kelly: as a former defense minister who served in is raim, the united states, what should it be doing now in if the future in terms of bringing some stability to that region? i think the u.s. showed leadership. we saw other countries following the u.s. when you make a strong decision, people follow you. in the future the u.s. would say, we ll not accept resolutions, we ll take action. they sent a strong message. we have seen other democracies following that. kelly: look at the timing of it. syria took this hostile action. bashar al-assad took his action against his own people. but it happened at a time when the president had just finished wrapping you have meeting with the president of jordan, egypt, iraq, saudi arabia. there seems to be a consensus within his foreign policy to bring those entities together to form some sort of coalition. would that koa lition be able to help israel in dealing with the formidable forces posed against you? i think it s important. i was not in those meetings. but the issue of iran, iran is a threat to israel and the entire middle east. and those moderate arab countries familiar with that threat. when they come together to speak with the american president, that s the first step to mordr move forward on the bad agreement signed with the iranians. kelly: president trump has been arguing against that even before becoming president. when he was candidate trump he said it was a bad deal. now it looks like one of your staunch enemies there is actually trying to build a nuclear armament. is that something else the united states should be looking out after? we know you certainly are. he s a bad deal. we should think about new sanctions against iran. bringing those leaders together not only israel, will be the first start to dealing with the threat of iran. ambassador haley took a strong stance and we are happy to see that. kelly: be sure to watch fox news sunday when chris wallace speaks with one of the people who helped plan the syrian miss soil strikes. general h.r. mcmaster is giving his first television interview ever since becoming national security advisor. be sure to check your local listings. julie: new reports suggesting some changes could be come together trump administration. this as two of president trump s top advisors are said to be at odds. steve bannon and the president s son-in-law jared kushner apparently meeting in south florida yesterday to sort things out. what are you hearing? any truth to these reports? reporter: the white house says no. there is no question that tension has been brewing between bannon and kushner for quite some time now. this strike in syria believe it wide open. bannon is a non-interventionist. he doesn t think the u.s. should tint screen in places like syria and there are reports he was against this strike. but there is no question kushner is safe as president trump s senior advisor and son-in-law. that leaves people like steve bannon and reince priebus are vulnerable. a senior administration official put out a statement last night. it sphreeds once again this is a completely false story driven by people who want to distract by the successes taking place in this administration. we are talking about that meeting last night. we learned this meeting took place at mar-a-lago it was attended by bannon, kushner and priebus. we are told president trump ordered it and told them to bury the hatchet. we are told all sides agreed to move forward. but it s difficult to see how that will happen given how deep these divisions run. but in the end the decision relies upon one man and one man only, that s president trump. he has prove within his strike in syria. he s not afraid to stir up the pot and do things differently. kelly: a suspect in custody following the deadly truck attack in sweden. brian llenas is following this story from new york. reporter: they believe a 30-year-old uzbekistan man is the driver of the stolen beer truck. this is cell phone video of the suspect being arrested 25 miles north of stockholm. we do not know the suspect s name or whether he s a legal resident of sweden. we do note suspect had been on intelligence services radar for some time now. police conducted overnight raids questioning people in connection with the case, and they have not ruled out more arrests. meantime a nation mourns. people are placing flowers at the high-end department store where the truck slammed into people in the center of sweden s capital. monday was declared a national day of mourning. we agree we grieve with the families that lost their loved ones. but we are determined to be an open society, democratic society. that s something i m confident the swedish people also feel. reporter: the suspect drove the stolen beer truck 500 yards through a pedestrian street before plowing into a department store with shoppers repairing for the weekend. they found an incendiary device inside the truck. it had a home made bomb inside. the attacker suffered burns from the explosives after they failed to detonate properly. this truck attack is similar to what we saw in london in march where a british national plowed a car into pedestrian on a london bridge. julie: the u.s. marine corps announcing its first punishments connected to an embarrassing nude scandal. kelly: house intel chair devin nunes temporarily recusing himself from the probe into russia. we ll look at what s next for the complicated investigation. here is the top democrat on the committee. significant as this is now, there is no way we can allow the investigation to be deterred from the much more important issues at stake. to folks everywhere whose diabetic. .nerve pain shoots and burns its way into your day. .i hear you. when that pain makes simple errands simply unbearable. .i hear you. i hear you because my dad struggled with this pain. make sure your doctor hears you too. so folks, don t wait. step on up. and talk to your doctor. because you have places to go. .and people who can t wait for you to get there. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands. step on up and talk to your doctor today. yeah, cause i got allstate.? 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[ doorbell rings ] who s that? show me watchathon. xfinity watchathon week now until april 9. get unlimited access to all of netflix and more, free with xfinity on demand. ke type for a quick check of the headlines. the marine corps demoaght two marines in connection with a nude photo scal scandal. current and former female marines coming forward to say photographs of them were posted online without their consent. two dozen other military members are also under investigation. california governor jerry brownish ewing an order to lift the drought emergency for his state. expert saying one rainy winter won t change the long-term outlook. a $42 million renovation on london s big ben. the renovation will last for self years. gejulie: devin nunes temporarily stepping aside on the russian investigation. where does the probe go now? sarah, devin nunes says this is temporary. second all says this is the extreme left essentially coming out after him. that it s some kind of hit job. is he being unfairly targeted for political reasons? there were progressive groups that did file complaints about his allegations that he unlawfully disclosed in his march 22 press conference. certainly partisan temperatures were running high on both sides. when chairman nunes did introduce the allegations that susan rice potentially unmasked members of the trump transition for political reasons injected a level of partisanship into the committee that made it untenable. it s a chance for the house intelligence committee to get back to focusing on its investigative duties. members were bashing each other in the media, but they wnl speaking face to face. julie: let s bring up susan rice. there is a correlation here. susan rice s name has come up and the question was whether or not she unmasked those individuals names for political reasons. she says it s complete hogwash. her spokeperson says it s not true and they are not going to address it. the bottom line is if for some reason there is evidence that proves she did unmask these names for political reasons, that is a crime, that s a felony. that s a serious accusation. is this a distraction from the nunes situation? what s key to remember is while nunes recused himself from the russia-related investigation, he s still involved in investigating these allegations of potential unmasking. those are totally unrelated to the russia investigation. nunes said the incidental collection was not related to russia at all. he s free to focus on that while he deal with the separate ethics inquiry. julie: could this have been prevented? let s say devin nunes got this information, shared it with others, but didn t share the with the president. it was when president trump made it a public scandal, if you will, because the mainstream media had a field day with his tweet about the obama administration allegedly wiretapping the trump campaign at trump tower. if it had never gotten to that point, do you think we would be talking about this now or would nunes have stepped down as he put it. if it hadn t gotten to that point perhaps nunes wouldn t have felt pressured to go public with his findings as soon as he did. he convened a press conference on capitol hill. went to the white house, briefed president trump and came out and talked to the white house correspondent. and in doing so democrats say he disclosed confidential information. it s not clear if that is in and of itself classified. he was careful about how much he let on about what was in those reports. but there does need to be some sort of review of this to put the situation behind him or the allegations will continue to follow him. nunes didn t want to put his members in a situation where every time they encounter a reporter. julie: he has only temporarily stepped down. most would say it s not temporary, this is a done deal. why the message think is not a permanent situation and all signs seem to point to the fact he s not going to return to that position? there is a black and white timeline to his temporary reprieve from that investigation. but it s not clear that that is going to be resolved quickly because that s being controlled by fellow members of the house. that could last an unknown amount of time that might be in their interest to drag out that probe. julie: as far as the russia probe is concerned, we need to reiterate the fact that there is no evidence of collusion here between russia and the campaign and the presidential election. no evidence whatsoever. but yet the f.b.i. has disclosed that they are in the midst of an investigation and president trump said this is all made up by the media. where is this coming from if the media is making this up, where are they getting their information and when will this be laid to rest? keep in mind what the house intelligence committee is suppose to be investigating is russian cyber activities during the campaign. incidentally that might involve these unsubstantiated allegations. that s what james comey said when he appeared before that committee. he said the f.b.i. was investigating russian hacking, and that inquiry had expanded to include allegations of trump associates colluding with russia. once those allegations had become prominent in the national conversation. he never said that was the focus of the investigation. and originally was not the focus of the house intelligence committee investigation. julie: no evidence on collusion or wiretapping. that s what they said. but we ll have to wait until the investigation concludes. kelly: a few months ago obama officials patting themselves on the back for a deal to get chemical weapons out of syria. susan rice saying it was a success. but are they praising themselves too soon? house speaker paul ryan says he s confident lawmakers are close to repealing obamacare. but with lawmakers off for the next two weeks, how close are they? we all believe it will lower premiums and provide add protection to affordable care. this brings us closer to the final agreement we all want to achieve. can we push the offer online? brian, i just had a quick question. brian? brian. legacy technology can handcuff any company. but yes is here. you re saying the new app will go live monday?! yeah. with help from hpe, we can finally work the way we want to. with the right mix of hybrid it, everything computes. hearings and meeting, how close are they really? peter doocy is following this from our washington bureau. what are lawmakers telling constituents about an obamacare repeal today? the. pete: they are trying to make the case. just about everything congressman tom mcclintock says about healthcare gets him heckled. we want to be sure nobody is left in the lurch. that the new system offers a wide range of policies at lowest possible price. and that we stop this radical increase in premiums we are seeing under obamacare, and stop if the flight of providers out of the obamacare market. reporter: right up until house lawmakers went home for the two-week recess. the healthcare act has an amendment supported by gop leadership and solve of the freedom of caucus. speaker ryan says the 200-day plan for repeal and replace and reforming the tax code is still on track. kelly: some of the people aren t happy about this. they wanted to see something done. we ll watch to see the developments when those lawmakers return. how concerned are lawmakers about a government shutdown at the ends of the month? reporter: they will have less than a week to stop a government shut down at the end of this recess. they don t want any money from the s border wall in there and they don t want cuts to domestic programs which the white house has been asking for. and spokesman for senator chuck schumer receives the only thing that could derail that progress is the white house insisting on their extraneous demands that would meet bipartisan opposition. he says he thinks the democrats will like the infrastructure plan. but we don t know where it fits into the calendar. kelly: pushing us ever so closer to the cliff. julie: let s bring in republican congressman charlie dent from pennsylvania. a lot of people criticizing congress for taking this break. that was agenda number one and it wasn t done. should they be taking this break and getting this done? paul ryan says they are really close, but not close enough to get it done before the break. thanks for having me on the program. we are out for the easter recess. i don t believe we are as close as many would say on the healthcare bill. there was an amendment offered which on balance was good. $15 billion over 8 years for high risk pools. but there are structural flaws in my view with the legislation that will require a lot more work than being pro poatds in that amendment, even though the amendment on balance is good. the immediate issue when we get back is funding the government. i m on the approach a yaitions committee. the va is the only appropriations bill that cleared and is law. we ll have to make sure we complete our work in april. julie: let s talk about premiums. the rising premiums is something the gop had been highlighting. there is an amendment in there that would in fact do something about the premiums which by lowering the costs makes this more attractive. tell us about that. it provides for $15 billion over 8 years beginning in 2015-2026. the idea of a federal high-risk pool. that is supposed to help in some cases. so that s the nature of that amendment. again, i don t know that it changes the underlying vote total. some people opposed to the vote have expressed their concerns as well as the medicaid changes and tax credits not being sufficient. i voted against obamacare in 2010. i thought it was a mistake. we would be making a similar mistake if we tried to muscle a bill through. this is something like you say cannot be rushed. this is going to be and it fills need. but it needs to be done right. you voted against obamacare. it took them 14 months to come up with something you did not agree with, right? it s been a short period of time before this bill was rolled out. some would say it was rushed. for you personally what changes would you need to see in order to support this? a few things. one, i think we should pay close attention to what some of our republic can governors said who represent medicaid expansion in states like mine. john kasich, governor snyder. all put forward a proposal to us, a serious proposal on medicaid to provide a softer landing to medicaid expansion states. they are concerned the bill in its current form would be too much of a cost shift to the states. so if there is not a soft landing on medicaid, a lot of people on medicaid expansion will go uninsured. so that s a big issue. we have to beef up the tax credit pretty significantly. that s an issue. there is another issue. i think we should leave the revenue on higher income earners and then basically use that money to help pay for the tax credits. something else that concerns a lot of americans. people over 65, and also people with preexisting conditions, and this is a huge one. i have spoken with a lot of people who are scared to death if this preexisting condition is removed and somebody becomes ill, why punish them when they have to go and get health insurance. with the rising rate of cancer in this country in the number of deaths and number of families afflicted by this horribly der deadly disease. if they are afflicted with cancer or they end up paying a premium and essentially punished and they can t get health insurance for the same amount, why should they pay more? you know, it s a fair point. i think most us on the republican side agree people with preexisting conditions should be protected. we think that s sacrosanct. we think those lifetime caps and those caps on an annual basis. we want to protect people from those types of caps that are subject to annual caps. we want to remove those. keep those off. the 26-year-olds individuals will be able to stay on their parents insurance. a lot of republicans will understand sift those are maintained in any reform that moves forward. i know there are some who are pushing in a different direction were there are some pushing a repeal-only strategy. the truth is parts of the healthcare law need to be repealed. parts of it re-placed. and parts of it maintained. i think we need to get the policy right to match the red rick. kelly: just a few months ago members of the obama administration said they got chemical weapons out of syria. but in the wake of this week s attack, were they praising themselves too soon? our panel will weigh in. i thought i married an italian. my lineage was the vecchios and zuccolis. through ancestry, through dna i found out that i was only 16% italian. he was 34% eastern european. so i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors we thought was italian was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn t know about. he looks a little bit like me, yes. ancestry has many paths to discovering your story. get started for free at ancestry.com it happened in the eastern part of the country. we have no word on how it happened other identity of that soldier so far. u.s. forces have been fighting an isis-affiliated group in that region for the last few years. kelly: days after the chemical attack in syria, officials who work for president trump are under fire because they claimed all chemical weapons were removed from the country thanks to an agreement reached in 2013. just a few months ago former national security advisor susan rice called the deal a success. joining us scott bolten. thank you for joining us today. before i get to that. let me get to susan rice and what she had to say about these chemical weapons and how they dispensed with it in 2013. i think the president stated the u.s. view, the use of chemical weapons is not something we are prepared to allow to persist. we didn t. we managed to accomplish that goal far more thoroughly than we would have by chemical strikes against chemical targets by getting the entirety of the stockpile removed. kelly: with what took place this week with another sarin gas attack that resulted in deaths in syria, what possibly went awry with the obama administration making sure the chemical weapons were dispensed? clearly they were wrong. you have got a quote from susan rice. i feel bad for susan rice because she has been caught in several blunders from the benghazi blunder to the unmasking blunder to now the 2013 quote where she said they removed the entire stockpile. and then you have got a quote from john kerry in 2014 saying that they removed 100% of the chemical weapons. it really sets a tone for the administration really not following through. and either they didn t fact check which is bad, or they blatantly lied. either way, it s misinformation. it left it on trump s shoes to basically take care of business and finish business that the democratic administration has. kelly: it would appear chemical weapons are still there, the tomahawk missile retaliatory strike the u.s. conducted was to give them a stern warning to stop using the chemical weapons. what do you say about all of this? i have been tweeting about this. it s unfortunate the republicans want to directly or urn directly blame it obama administration. in 2013 this agreement had bipartisan support. in drawing the line on whether we were going to bomb niece facilities or not. we bomb these facilities or not. we reached an agreement and allowed russia to remove these chemical weapons. you don t know what the obama administration knew or didn t know. i doubt they were lying. over the last the four years this agreement was on appearance-wise was work. the people to blame are assad and russia. as rex tillerson a couple days ago, either russia was complicit or they are income tent. but you don t blame rice and obama. it s unfair, because this is a humanitarian crisis and all americans support taking out these chemical weapons. it s a national crime to do so. but blaming your democratic opponent. the campaign is over. start to govern, donald trump. kelly: some people are point fringe of saying he didn t. he was definitely disturbed by what he saw. infants choking to death because of sarin gas, and he took action. are you disputing that in terms of governance. he retaliated. what else do you expect him to do? a couple things. i think he has by part and support on this attack because of the international crime. but at the same time he has to get out of campaign mode and be in governance mode. bringing up obama or sue and rice doesn t get us to any great result or end. and laying out america s plan for syria is the next step. he has to go to congress if he wants to continue to be aggressive against syria. kelly: a lot of people would agree with that democrats and republicans alike to, neat has to go to congress. but he raised the bar and made bashar al-assad think twice about doing anything at all. especially russia. scott and nicole, thank you. julie: a massive search underway for a man accused of stealing several the firearms and sending a threatening manifesto to president trump. allegedly stole several guns and sent a threatening manifesto to president trump. reporter: more than 150 members of law enforcement doing everything they can to get the suspect behind bars. it started tuesday when authorities say he broke into a gun store and allegedly stole 16 high-end firearms including two assault rifles. they believe he has a bullet-prove vest and military-style helmet. he allegedly torched his car and disappeared. thursday a so-called associate told authorities he made a vague threat about a school. that caused a number of wisconsin school to the close friday. same sore yet said the 160-page manifesto he sent to president trump voting his criticism of government. the revolution. it s time for change. reporter: the sheriff told me the man fast to has a lot of disregard and disrespect for public oaf figures and law enforcement, calling them quote agents of the 1% to even slave and keep the population down. he s considered armed and dangerous. the f.b.i. is offering a $10,000 reward for information that leads to his arrest. julie: the u.s. keeping up pressure on syria after launching missiles against one of the country s air bases. what the trump administration is what the trump administration is saying about the possibility of another strike. what is scary? 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train station. madison square garden is right on top of it. it s that kind of layered construction. the train station went through a huge reconstruction and manchester arena is no more than that years old. camera crews and civilians were out talking to eyewitnesss and media immediately after the blast, we want to bring you some of that. i said it was non balloon. who told you it was a balloon. staff, to stop us. how did you manage to get out? told us to be cabin and a few you re reminded listening to the accidents of people who are still in the moment reacting to this, that manchester is in a unique part of the country. it has whales to the west, approximately, scotland to the north. it is part of the northern uk, an industrial city and proud of it. yeah, brian, i guess the equivalent of the u.s. would be the u.s. this is an old industrial type part of the uk, sort of, following disrepair for decades and since undergone a surgery. these are salt of the earth people, good big moment class revelation. a lot of new industry moving into that area as well. at this concert, as you mentioned, i think, this arena is massive. it holds 21,000 people. it s the biggest arena in the uk and biggest in europe. you would have had people coming from all of the around to uk to go to this area. the third stop in her tour of just the uk. she had played some dates in other parts of europe. this was a big, big deal for these young people and sort of industrial and northern india. good whole some, you know, families headed out for a great night of entertainment for teenage girls, teenage boys. bombs and dad going with their kid and then, of course, this happened. we see a lot of this social media video showing just kind of a panic that happened after that explosion was heard. you know, a sold out concert and brian, a packed arena. the final son had already been song and left the stage, one of the fans told us she had gone, the lights were on, people were heading for the exits when they heard this blast. one young woman who spoke to us they thought it was a small drop. they didn t realize the full extent of what was happening until they got out of that arena. you know, this seems on the outside now as we understand the blast did happen outside, according to an ree na statement, it happened at a public space. this seen is very much different from inside the concert hall. one man told local station here that he was there to pick up his wife and daughter and that he was fairly close to the glass that s thrown 30 feet and afterwards saw the aftermath. others talk about seeing fans bloodied on their faces. we eve seen pictures of young people and adults walking around, walking wounded with damage around their knees, ripped to jeans, volunteer first responder told us that they ve been treating shrapnel like injuries that s when we got the sense that this was something very sinister, that this was, potentially, an explosion. we have since learned, as you know, brian, multiple u.s. law enforcement sources telling nbc news they ve been briefed by uk officials and saying this was appears to have been the work of a suicide bomber and based on forensic after evidence at the scene, brian, they believe they know who the bomber is. we don t have any ideas yet. we have a tore numbers. we haven t heard anything sense in doubt, the investigative work is in full force at this very early saul ri. kelly, here with the scene from there and what it s been like this whole evening long as we ve gone through the slow realization that this was, in fact, what we all feared it was and that is investigators are pointing to a single acting alone, that is, suicide bomber at one of the, potentially one of the main exits. we re joined in the staud yi by police commissioner bill. commissioner when you hear kelly report, again, sources of the investigating world i know who this is, i know what this is. what does it take for them to be able to say that, first and second what is our relationship for people who are just joining our coverage and talked about this a little bit earlier, what s our relationship with the uk back in forth? relationship with the uk really seamless and i can speak from personal instruction. the intelligence services, the coordination, slab ration that has to be pretty significantly after 9/11. in terms to quickly identify individual those are on air and in policy. two thoughts there that one we ll let you be fact of how that technology is. you ll start to think that it may have had a suspect or suspects in line. they tend to match up very quickly because what they had going into the small scene. they had a stream of information available intelligence and police services before this event, that will be part of the investigation of the days ahead. but we get better at this all the time. we ll have to pace these events. what are they saying, law enforcement, terrorist only has to get lucky once, but law enforcement have to be lucky every single time. thank you very much. our senior national security analyst and a former deputy national security adviser, four terrorism for president george w. bush. more on this intelligence sharing. we re not critiquing the finding that kelly was reporting from someone in your line of work that they have some degree of sernd, what s behind this and who this was and how can that be possible in such show amount of time. i think bill has a right. i think the british authorities are incredibly good at their work. they re tracking a number of individuals of concern. this seems to suggest that this may be an individual that was on the radar screen, or at least that they had information about or bio me tricks and other available information. want to be very quick in these cases. they want to find out what they know, not only about this attack in particular, but they want to make sure that they understand what the support networks are around this individual, this attack. nothing else is a pace. nothing else is unforming. so i think there s going to be more information coming out understanding that this they re going to dig hard into who this individual is. his social ned work and any communication with other suspect individual or even isis or al qaeda elements that may have been either training him, inspiring him or even directing him in this attack. there s much more to be learned. but the fact that british authorities think that they ve identified this individual, u.s. authorities are tracking that as well. very significant sign and certainly a demonstrate of great capability to do this this quickly in the wake of such a horrific account. they really the art form of flooding the zone with cameras for digital imagery. when that happened, when that error broke and when they kind of debuted their system. it was people from the nypd who traveled to london, looked around. society debates constantly, as it should, the exchange of privacy for safety in a free society. but what are the rules governing immature they ve got six angles before this and let s assume, getting his face out there, would help for people wondering, do you have you seen this, does this ring a bell? well, it s a great point, brian. british authorities will use whatever authorities they have ability. their system allows them access to several advantage points, no doubt. they re going to be looking not only to what they can do to identify this individual at the point of the attack, but whether or not they can spot others who may have supported, dropped off or been a part of this particular and that. they ll be pouring over whatever footage they have available. to your point about privacy and security, you know, the british have been criticized for this coverage and i think for every open society, the debate, how much security is enough. it s impossible that an open society to prevent these kind of attacks. there is the work of intelligence gathering, which is probably the longful here in the tent here, you try to understand who the suspects are, you try to understand where the threats are coming from to try to prevent this from happening to begin with. to the extent you have capabilities like footage in public arena like boyfriend you try to use that to maximum efficiency to ensure there aren t other attacks as well as to deter those who are trying to perpetrate these kind of attacks to begin with. it s an important question, because every society, including the united states have to grapple with, how much are we really for us to know beforehand, how much information is gathered and then how much surveillance are we allowing the public arena and public square to allow authorities to react in an on fortunate attack. british authorities have come to a balance, that, obviously, a question for the u.s. still moving forward, how much security is enough, especially when terrorists are going after shortfallings. you can t blame them for being part of our coverage. we within the to welcome back jonathan. what we re covering political news. we just joined us looking for the 11th hour we will also be doing here tonight, there s plenty of that. first this breaking news from manchester, jeremy, former chief of staff and cia and defense. jeremy, i asked you earlier, what gets lit up and what gets turned on on a night like this given the close relationship between u.s. and u.s. airport. fingerprint from the individual who conducted the attack, i ll take that and run it through the database and come up with a name. that name will go through a number of databases, e ours is called the data environment tied. it s run by the national terrorism center. the uk authorities, their internal service works with all the other partners in the world. they ll try to match that name with any other aspect of known terrorist network. i predict they ll use that name, identify an address, probably somewhere in the uk and you ll see armoured rain forest by the uk, police, apparent military s.w.a.t. teams, they ll remove and they ll introduce the home, z and i told you about that. reporter: they ll take evidence. they ll take fgs. they will look at electronic holdings of the intelligence, remail it suspect, phone intercepts. within hours we ll have more information of sent to us this person is tied to another network. we ll talk about whether he acted alone, was directing. i ve been looking through previous terrorist attacks here the last several months. if you look at truck attacks in sweden april 2017, truck attack in berlin. knife attacks the niece truck attack that killed 36. those were lone individuals operating a truck, handgun, a knife something they can get in their every day life. it s attacks that provide high powered explosives like the aware in turkey, the attack in brussels i kept telling them 32. it s gng to march. the attack in paris, of course, they killed 89 and over all paris in those individuals are part of a network. they re part of a terrorist organization, inspired or directed by other people who want to do harm against civilians. i think it has me tonight based on the fact the use of explosives, based on the fact this individual went to a place where they knew it would be several hundred brilliant surveillances working on. this has to be the hypothesis tonight. grien, again, you will see all of these activities lead up to a targeting package and understand of entertainment, you ll see steel on target, iraq as a result of this, if in fact, it s connected to isis. jeremy bash thank you so much for being part of our coverage tonight. for those of you watching just when official word came in from manchester, we had been talking about a block bruce ter, which we are minutes away from getting to ourselves. that s when our investigative producer had been on the air talking about presidential politics. and ken asked me, preston, the serena, getting that all you can about this investigation. what have you learned? all right. i just spoke to u.s. intelligence official. if you see a complex ball, does that suggest network, the answer is yes it very well mike. there are instances where isis is now walking through people taking bomb making instructions online. i think they re showing the ability to recruit, disturb individuals or take them to the steps to get to radicalization and get to operational ability on line. but in either scenario folks are telling me, we re likely to see a situation where encryption was used. that s going to raise questions, there s a lot of something hear. there may have been a point where some of the terrorist use encryption to disguise their plotting. if it wasn t themselves or lie sis, from intelligent services. it s becoming running into debate in this country, you know, find a way to penetrate that. is there absolute right to have your conversations secure from government, surveillance or not and that s going to continue. i had one official say to me tonight, in the reassuring tone, that by this time tomorrow, the brits will know everything this person ever surged searched on google and when and what the result was. i think that may be ha they didn t know in time is whether this person was communicating either with terrorist abroad. unfortunately they didn t know it in time to stop this attack. while we ve been recording, united states command has announcing a raid into yemen that killed seven, aqpl 10, just another reminder that the u.s. at war against terrorist around the war. thank you. also unrelated to this incident or so we hope was the visual all day long until about dinner time east coast time when we realized our news day and our coverage was about to change because of breaking news out of manchester. but previously, all day long the news was about the president s trip to the middle east, a trip that started in saudi arabia and a trip that took him to israel today. the problem is, d the problem, again, the news from back home in the u.s. that continues to follow this president and this administration, and, again, today it was the washington post that was out with another bomb shell report, quoting from the washington report headline tonight trump asked intelligence chiefs to push back against fbi collusion probe after comey revealed its existence. this report says, back in march, trump made separate appeals to the director of national intelligence and to michael rogers director of national security agency. urging them to publicly deny the existence of any evidence of collusion during the 2016 election. the report goes on the new revelations and to a growing body of evidence that trump sought to coopt and then under mine comey before he fired him, may not explain. connecticut senior also that statement added this point. it adds additional mounting powerful evidence of a cover up and obstruction of justice. what is really significant about it is, that it s cumulative on the issue of intent because donald trump donald trump s defendants said he didn t mean any harm when he questioned comey, he didn t mean what he said. this repeated attempt to stifle investigative work, stop the truth from coming out, eventually becomes evidence of intent. all of it mounting evidence of powerful undeniable dimensions and it goes to the issue of intent. again, that was part of the news that went into this day and earlier today we learn mike flynn will invoke the fifth amendment in response to a subpoena requesting documents about his ties and contacts with rush shachlt we ll talk more about this a little later on. flynn was also accused in a letter today, elijah cumming of lying to security clearance investigators back in 2016 about being paid by russian media. those payments were for an appearance at a now well chronical dinner honoring vladimir putin in december of 2018 for our tea, russian television here. here with us tonight discuss it eli, wall street journal, bost in globe columness, ethics chair at the pointer institute. and plit skoliticpolitico, mich. mike, you ll get the first question tonight what just happened today? well, brian, it s another log on the fire. i assume we re talking about the latest reports particularly this washington post appreciate it. what it does is, you know, just build out as if we needed any more evidence that this president doesn t seem to respect or care about traditional boundaries that should limit him, that should restrict him from ongoing investigation at a minimum, i think the most charitable thing you can say when you read this story, he s a very wealthy man and use to picking up the phone and getting things done and new york city and in his real estate deals and he thinks that works to a better investigation that involves nefarious influence by a foreign power, but then you see, you know, senator blumenthal gets in front of it. you see it brian, somewhat married in that story. below the name, which describes trump asking two senior intelligence officials to come out and essentially say he s not under investigation and clear him. other white house officials are not named in the story, apparently made inquiries without getting them to pressure comey now fired to drop his investigation into michael flynn. and there s really no way to explain that away, so in the first case, trump could be a rich guy who thinks hey, i have this guy wh is not more people come out and say something. it should not make those phone calls it s inappropriate. it s crossing into lanes you should not be in. the second part of it, brian, i think is very troubling the white house officials are leaning on people saying, go to comey, get him to drop the pregnancy. eli, finding new stories like yours, we re allowed to get yours average. they have the conversation like he was carrying. if it is true that means donald trump as president was going around to people in government saying, either, make this go away or, tell the folks that i m clear and tell folks everything is fine. yeah, it s another, whoa what trump now. we don t generally have a habit of printing things that are not true. they source these things. they have sources deep inside these intelligence agencies. you re starting to see a pattern with these stories documenting the same behavior over and over again. when they come back to the white house you saw it again today. there s no denial of the allegations in the story. today the white house said something like we re not going to talk about it because it s based on unnamed sources. before they were defending and trying to say i didn t doch this. the thing they were saying they didn t do was yet to put pressure comey or that he pressured the new other intelligence officials. and then a lot of other newspaper and other outlets. there are a lot of sources across what donald trump i like to think of as the deep state, that s our government. that s the intelligence community. it s the community of people who are bound together by belief in and respect for the rule of law. this is an executive in the oval office, if it s someone who doesn t seem to have a respect for the rule of law, you can understand why there were so many damaging leaks and we probably haven t seen the end of it. he was not a traditional ceo, in that he didn t have a board to report to. it s been said that with great frequency today over and over again. i think here is a guy you have one way of doing things in his world. it was the only world he knew. not only is the mindset of a good government type foreign to him, but he thought he could pull the leopards of waiting on them to see. is this really the learning curve someone from the business world now in the oval office. it s not the curve from anyone in the business world who might have wanted oval office. it certainly is that way for donald trump, a person who has never had to answer for anyone, p 0 years old and surrounded himself with culinary yemen and women, people who got things done for him. always look the other way on ethical things, legal things they sort of budget. you can t do that when you re in a system, when you re in a system of government and you have all of these checks and balances in federal bureaucracy. thousands and thousands of people who can be checked on the power itself. this happened back in march, this around the same time it did stories, true. the same time he was sharing these things, the senior official committee was trying to end it. at the same time he s been president attack and his wires, the chair of the house intelligence devin nunes to go around and try to stand up that story and convince the media that the president might be on to something. all of this was happening when they thought he could manufacture their own truth. we hear the president is advising the legal team saying you have to be more judicious and discrete with your words you can t say things you have to be bound by the facts. he s never tried to do that and it may be too late, even if they make headway and it changes the behavior now. he may have already done too much and said too much. in terms of allowing people to make a case. welcoming you back to the broadcast, i saved an interesting one for you, i m going to take you back, it s been a long time, about a week to when we learned that the president had two russians in the oval office. there were no american journalists there, footnote, the russian news agency toss what is there. it was their photos that got sent around the world. we later learned that in the e val office, donald trump shared intelligence, code name intelligence with the visiting russians. it was whispered and further leaked that this was an intelligence partner that lead a lot of people to advise if it was israel that further we had, perhaps, endangered someone s deep cover among elements of isis overseas. that element was never confirmed by the white house. fast forward a whole wink unto today. he s in april. he s and trump chooses, out of nowhere, to kind of silence the combined press corps so he could speak up and make a point. we ll air that and then you can talk about it on the other side. just so you understand, i never mentioned the word or the name israel. i never mentioned throughout the conversation. so you had to know the story. never mentioned the word israel. for the record none of us were saying he did. his national security adviser, general mcmaster came out, in fact, he was never told the source of that information, so he would not have paed along the sources of tt information. on this front what just happened? right. well the kri nolg here, it was the washington post that broke that incredible story about the code word intelligence that donald trump shared with the russians. in the same conversation in which he called james comey and said fortunately i ve fired him. i think many of us who cover national security and foreign policy immediately drump to the conclusion or had sources who made us believe that it was, in fact, israel, it was the original source that s why it was so sensitive and naming the city, it was so interest. fast forward the next day and the new york times had a separate story in which they said israel was the source of the intelligence, according to their sources the two things were not together, but by him responding to this reporter who shouted out to bb, are you yet comfortable, we felt compiled to say i never mentioned him. he s inadvertently confirming in the view that it was in fact israel that was the source. you can see how the prime minister looked momentarily uncomfortable about the whole situation. everyone was kind of krinching, that was bt the only crib marriott maine. we ve just come back from the middle east. they have not certified one. they put his hand up to his head and put it back as if, no, i meant to do that. so there have been a lot of things said that were foot and mouth moments. you know, in this middle east trip. a lot of the trip transpired over the weekend after we had signed off, midnight eastern, friday night right ununtil now. a lot of the imagery, it had been, i think, going well on a pass/fail basis. but then the statement on israel then the statement that, perhaps, they ve been in the middle east yesterday but why traveling to israel were no longer. so, you know, it was a low bar for trump to clear in saudi arabia, he basically had no not get caught saying something con feet and then he had to redisspeech lairty and he managed to do those things. by the way, that speech was temperate critic it was not the worse case scenario from the perspective when he wen in guns blazing saying he spent on it was a fairly established speech and i think people were saying, okay, this president on the world stage you might disagree with his policies, but he can, at least, sort of pick my numbers and do stage crap without causing any kind of big problems. today was a reminder that when donald trump is out with the mic and he s not completely scripted, the odds are pretty good he is going to say something that makes an unwelcome headline that is in discrete that makes him look foolish. by the end, i will add that brian, you know, this trip is just starting. he s got a couple more stops. he ll be meeting with a lot more foreign leaders. he s going to g 7-meeting and goes to nato summit, that s the blt he s been rolling out this one, really trying to reboot and knowing that trump comes to them ready to give them a warmth huggy. when you a lot of unresolved issues and a lot of point, how much are other countries are spending. do they believe he s necessary at the last point, elephant in the room, that nato is summit. it was formed, to defend your russian aggression so to the extent trump has been running away from the russia story on this trip, he is running into africa story when he arrives to meet with the nato officials. someone is going to drump the american president tomorrow morning local time in israel and ask for his response to what happened in manchester. and there, i suppose, right there in that moment would be a very stark choice of words. well, i suspect he may go back to the formulation that he was so comfortable with during the campaign, talking about radical islamic terrorism. the fakts he had been talking about it for a couple of hours, the british authority do believe it was probably a terrorist attack. i think, hopefully you ll be getting the say the correct thing. but i do think this goes back to wearing the larger problem of me not taking advice, many use to saying whatever he wants to or saying. it s the head of a company with no board as michael said. i think michael s explanation, bethe way, of why he says whatever he wants, trying to tell the director of national intelligence to type down or come out and say i m not the subject, it s a completely understandable explanation, but it s not a justification for that. by the same token he needs to be listening to advice of people who know better about governing things and he doesn t seem to be very good at taking that advice. he s use to doimg things his own way. eli, again, started in an entirely different direction, but we had this story about general flynn announcing his intention to take the fifth amendment. explain to our viewers, what prong of the investigation this is and if capital hill investigation can t result in any kind of charges, why would this be? well, this was the senate intelligence committee request for flynn to test above and he ll be taking the fifth and refusing to do so. it was immediately bringing back to the news channels, to the coverage, all the clips, the times during the campaign when donald trump and his advisers opined about hillary clinton and her aides taking the fifth and saying doing so made it seem like they were guilty as heck. michael flynn was not feature, probably if he had a good story to tell. i think, you know, folks who are running these intelligence investigations on the hill and to the intelligence community which has its own investigation and now special counsel leading up to that investigation. there s not a lot of concern about the truth, eventually, getting out, about being able to find this stuff out, obviously, we ve seen the amount across the government and i think with multiple investigations going on simultaneously, people work pretty good of getting to the fact. i think one way or another you ll seem pretty coverage pa lent room. if you focus on the next several months of what actually happened, whether or not people like michael flynn will come warning. thank you all, it s been an eventful day and a sad evening, but the political news, the go political news really commended our attention tonight. we ll fit in a break in our coverage, again, we re covering these dual stories, the traveling white house today and all that means what the newspaper back here in the states and this terrible tragedy in the current terrorist attack in manchester uk this evening. we ll be right back. standby. hey katy, let me show you how behind schedule we are. yeah. are those the pyrotechnics that are gonna startle me from a distance? yep. and my impractical wardrobe changes, those all set? not even close. oh, this is probably going to shine in your eyes at the worst possible time. perfect. we re looking at a real train wreck here, am i right? wouldn t it be great if everyone said what they meant? the citi® double cash card does. it lets you earn double cash back with 1% when you buy, and 1% as you pay. the citi double cash card. double means double. with this level of intelligence. it s a supercomputer. with this grade of protection. it s a fortress. and with this standard of luxury. it s an oasis. the 2017 e-class. it s everything you need it to be. and more. lease the e300 for $569 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. so many family members were together for tonight s concert, so many parents, for example, brought their teenage daughters. the crowd base for ariana grande, the concert tonight and manchester arena. i want to read you the way the associated press is putting in at this hour, dateline manchester england ap, a highly anticipated night for ariana grande fans ended in blood and terror after an explosion tore through the foyer, at least is the concert goers were killed, about a others were injured on monday night. all evening long we ve been getting contributions from jonathan deets who is part of our investigative reporting team here in new york. bring us up to date, especially for viewers who may just be learning about this story or looking for a late live update. you know, the very latest we have, all indications, at least at that arena, it was a lone attacker, likely a suicide bomber with some sort of backpack bomb filled with nails and bolts to inflict maximum damage as well as the stampede that caused other injuries. a lone attacker outside the arena along the check points of crowds going in. it was as the crowd was filing out that this explosion took place causing the panic. the question, now, who is this suspect. we ve been told from law enforcement officials here, that they had tentative i.d. of the possible suicide bomber and that they re working very hard to confirm that and track that and that s important because they want to know was he a lone actor or was he part of any part of a terror cell. britain has been faced with threats, we saw the incident outside west minister. there have been more than a dozen pods there last year. there are hundreds of extremist inside that country that intelligence agencies are trying to track and monitor. some had traveled to syria, isis controlled territory in syria and returned so there s that whole picture of, again, the question was this a lone actor or part of a cell. the brits are clamping down because now the investigation is very much underway as they try to track and see did this bombing have any help, was he part of any cell, how did he pull this off without getting caught. jonathan, initially, we heard about the toll, especially of the injured. but then sadly the dead and there were people theorizing that maybe this had been a stampede, maybe some of the deaths came that way. i was loosely trying to explain to folks who may be familiar with new york, folks all across the country, who have had the pleasure the experience of being to the station and madison square garden, which sits right on top of it. it s not unlike the manchester arena, they re one on top of the other using the air rights of the train station. there are levels between trains, the box office and the venue itself. and thousands of people all moving in that direction to the exits to try to get to that transportation and all of a sudden the explosion takes place, so all the people start running the other way causing terrible confusion. you and i have seen the videos at kennedy airport when erroneous scare, airport shutdown if you re in a similar scare in los angeles recently where panic. this one described as a major chest pounding thud, in terms of the explosion that took place around the crowd of people and ensuing panic. i think we saw some video, people jumping over the sides of the stands to get to the alleyways to try to make their exits just sheer panic. right now it s 50 injured, 19 dead. we re waiting to hear more about the extent of the injuries of those people we ve seen in cases like this. you would expect that several to be in critical condition, at this time. we ll await to hear from the hospital authorities on the status of those injuries, some officials caution us, perhaps, expect to see the toll of casualties arise in the hours ahead. in the hours ahead, i expect we ll get new image what we ve been forced to repeat and repeat and repeat. thank you so much for contributing to our reporting. i want to bring in our senior national security analyst. and i m going to ask you an oddly political question and it s this, you served on the national security staff of president bush 43. if this president is getting a proper briefing tomorrow morning local time in israel, what do you counsel a president to say when he s asked about a strongly suspected terrorist attack over night in the uk? well, i think the first thing the president is going to want to know is what do we know about the attack itself, about the perpetrator. are there any american citizens who have been suffered as a result of the attack, either killed or injured. are we providing support to our british colleagues, to the full force and weight of our capabilities. do we know if anything ties this attack to other threats that we may be concerned about and are there preventative measures we should be taking in concert with state and local authorities to include forces like nypd and lapd to ensure that there is no potential, that there is an attack in the u.s. that s either a copy cat and maybe something that s attached. those are things that the president is going want to know. i was in the white house on the 7/7 attack in 2005. president bush was in scotland for the g 8 meetings at that point. we went immediately into briefing mode. he knew more, he was on the ground. he was in prime minister blair at the time. we were clearly going through the whole assortment of issues and concerns about what we knew about the attack in london at the time and what we were doing to not only help our british colleagues, but also to secure the u.s. in the eventuality that there was some connection of what was happening in london and what was potentially happening in the u.s. the president is going to be briefed based on what we know. it sounds like the british are getting down to some great details in terms of who the perpetrator is. there s no doubt in the coming hours going to find out more about his identity, his whereabouts, his communications, his network, those are things that the brit irn will share, no doubt, with the u.s. and those things will be brief toded to t president. since this is no ordinary time and since this is a president like no other, what do you tell him not to say, rather, based on regional sensitivities, based on what we may not know, based on, it s just really smart not to say this? well, i think there will be three principles you want to convey to the president, first is, you know, this is a fog of war, the initial stages of anything is going to be incomplete information and may actually be wrong information, you don t want to be the lead fact witness on what s happening. we ll continue to brief and update you. but don t get too far in front of your ski tips here in front of the information because it could be wrong. this is a british-led investigation. this is a british issue first and foremost you don t want to get out in front of the british. let the british take the lead and we will follow. if they want us to share information, we need to share information, we can go back and ask them. let s be careful with respect to that. third, i think if there s anything sensitive conveyed, anything that leads to the potential that this is involving isis, al qaeda, other networks you want to make sure that the president knows where those areas of sensitivity are and you want to make sure he is aware that he probably shouldn t be talking openly to others or publicly about some of those threats. it could be important to unraveling what could be a support network to this attack. and so i would start with those first principles, i would be very open with the president and hopefully the president is getting his feet under him in terms of how to handle these kind of briefings and this kind of sensitive information. now, that was an answer, useful information. as always, thank you, we have just a few minutes remaining in this hour s coverage. ken delaney of nbc news joins us back here in the studio. ken, as americans go to sleep, as daybreaks in the uk, we re going to know so much more by the time we all get up in the morning. it sure looks that way, brian. if they have a name, as you said, they ll know a lot about him. who he was communicating with, everybody bit bit if there s a network, you may see some over night raids and armoured vehicles coming to the door, if it s not a network, we may be learning new details about who he is. i want to bring a point about president trump, he made a remarkable statement, speech in saudi arabia. it was a rhetoric return. he did not use the kind of phrases that he s used during the campaign, he said that islam hates us. it s going to be an interesting test whether he can hue to this new line that s coming out hr mcmaster and james mattis or whether we ll see the old donald trump lashing out. sean henry, we have 35 seconds to play with, do you rush out the imagery, which you know they ll have of this bomber to help garner more information? i 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developing stories including more on russia. a poll showing over half of americans say they do want an independent inquiry of the links between trump and russia. more than 60% say this is concerning for what it actually means for our democracy. couple that with the former national security adviser, mike flynn, offering testimony in exchange for immunity. now, today. vladimir putin spokesman claiming there is actually nothing to uncover. are you concerned about anything he might say about his contacts with russia? no. we are not. any blamings that russia could have been interfering in domestic affairs of the united states is slander. peskov saying that an allegation regarding the russian government s involvement in the recent killing of an opposition lawmaker is absurd. how will these events affect the already rocky path ahead for the trump administration? joining me now is ron klain, a former senior aide to president clinton, matt miller who worked at the department of justice for eric holder and maya wiley, vice president for social justice at the new school and former counsel to mayor de blasio. a lot of you have experience in government and how scandals can grow and mutate. ron, what do you make of the most recent thing with russia basically putting its people out brazenly on american television, which is their right, even as all the allegations pile up and we see reports of the russian lawmakers assassinated and targeted and thrown off a building. as you alluded to in an earlier segment, ari, the russians are engaged in active measures to try to corrupt our democracy, to try to break apart our democracy in this country and other western democracies around the world. so the fact that their spokespeople are out advancing that message, advancing propaganda, should be no surprise to people. of the many sad things and there are many sad things in the first 70 days of the trump administration i don t think there is anything sadder than seeing our government, our great democracy, aligning itself with these horrible forces of intolerance, of anti-liberalism. they re trying to destroy democracies around the world. then you go to how this all works in government, matt. substantively, procedural. rhetorically, the trump white house has done everything it could to make it look like its defending russia in all this. there hasn t been a pause or we welcome the facts that come or are cooperating. quite the opposite. i won t list the litany, matt. listen to john mccain, no liberal critic, explaining why this all piles up to needing an independent committee. this is why we need a select committee, martha. every time we turn around, another shoe drops from this centipede. matt. yeah. senator mccain is right. the trump s embrace of russia goes back to before he was president, goes back to the campaign. and what s surprising politically a little bit is that he hasn t recognized, you know you would think that if you are in the middle of this kind of scandal where you are under investigation for potentially coordinating with russia intelligence to try to steer the election to you when they re all of his famous comments during the campaign, you would think they would take a politically smart path. just have the president come out and say one tough thing about vladimir putin and it would go a long ways for them politically and they re not willing to do that. i think it has something to do with trump, who he is. he likes to be flattered. he likes the way that vladimir putin has said nice things about him. i think it has something to do with he doesn t want to admit that his campaign did get the help from russia because he knows that leads to questions about his legitimacy that he is very, very sensitive to. i think this is an important part of what trump has to do right now. he has to say that, actually, i am the president of the united states and of all americans and i m going to come forward. i m going to come clean. i m going to cooperate. instead, he sends tweets that suggest that somehow this is a witch hunt against his administration. we have to remember that both his attorney general, jeff sessions, whose office introduced carter page. former campaign manager, paul manafort. so many connections right now to a folks actually talking to a russian ambassador and allegations that there were communications between carter page that he was supposed to pass on to trump that he was going to, in fact, get rewarded mr. tillerson, do you believe that vladimir putin and his cronies are responsible for ordering the murder of countless dissents, journalists and political opponents? i do not have sufficient information to make that claim, but i am not willing to make conclusions on what is only publicly available or have been publicly reported. this is classified, mr. tillerson. these people are dead. ron, what do you make of the exchange now two months later with what we know? the senate should never have confirmed rex tillerson. it s sad that marco rubio voted to confirm rex tillerson after giving those answers. this goes back to what maya said before. it s all the people around trump who have these ties to russia. mr. tillerson made a lot of money doing business in russia. former senator sessions now attorney general and his team have ties to russia. when you put it together it lays at the president s doorstep. when it has been laid at his doorstep his answers have been disappointing. he was asked about these crimes. russia has committed, killing journalists. instead of deploring it, condemning it, he said, oh, our country is not so innocent either. that idea that we re going to lower our human rights and civil sights standards, lower our civil liberties standards to russia s level as a way of getting along with russia is a deplorable concept. that s what the president has said to defend his friends and allies in russia. we covered this last hour. there is so much. the other thing that s brand-new and hasn t been on tv yet, maya. we were debating out this outreach on obamacare from president trump is going to work. new sound of rand paul, a big critic. he was a roadblock, maybe striking a balance. maybe donald trump finding in personal diplomacy what he couldn t find on the house floor. rand paul, brand-new, after golfing with trump. great day with the president today. we did talk about some health care reform. i think the sides are getting closer together, and i remain very optimistic that we will get an obamacare repeal. thanks. maya. hard to believe. you don t buy it. i don t buy it. i buy that there are conversations happening and the republicans feel a lot of heat to get a win on something they crashed and burned dramatically on. unless you have something to address the fact that the previous plan was going to literally take tax credits from those earning $200,000 or less a year and essentially give a give-back of $7 million a year to the top 400 earning americans in the country and leave 24 million americans without health insurance, i think that s a tall order. the numbers don t lie. what did you think also of rand paul s sunglasses? i thought they were quite interesting and not going to get him over the edge when it comes to support for this bill. you re not throwing any shade over there. i have a lot of shade to throw, but rand paul is not worth my shade. control room saying you need to wrap. sometimes they say need to wrap. i was interested in your take. maya wiley. good sport and knowledgeable lawyer. matt, ron. thank you for your expertise. tonight, millions of young people mobilized in 2016 not only for hillary clinton as some think but many for president trump. now we ll hear directly from them about what they think. and as always, we have ari s inbox. but first, stay with us. the point growing up trump, right up after the break. and one more segment. only invisalign® clear aligners are made with smarttrack® material to precisely move your teeth to your best smile. see how invisalign® treatment can shape your smile up to 50% faster today at invisalign.com the markets change. at t. rowe price. our disciplined approach remains. global markets may be uncertain. but you can feel confident in our investment experience around the world. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. except for every ladies night. vegetarian. only glad has forceflex to prevent rips, leaks, and punctures. so whatever you throw in the bag. stays in the bag. be happy, it s glad. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that s why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business. which adds fuel to my bottom line. what s in your wallet? investigation. he has certainly called the independence of his committee into question but as a legal concept he hasn t triggered the traditional causes for recusal like say a financial link to the outcome of the inquiry. here is how one ethics professor quoted it. it does not create a legal basis for seeking recusal. there is a strong political argument for recusal. the argument that he has fractured the bipartisan relationship of the committee was spoken on by adam schiff. i think it rises to the level of recusal. ann chapel. who takes flynn up on this immunity? right now, nobody. the congressional committee saying it s not on the table at the moment and that it s too early for prosecutors in the criminal case to hand out immunity deals. last question from lana. can a regular citizen sue a fez ral agency? the answer, sure. there is a federal law that empowers a private citizen to sue for injury or loss of property or death for any wrongful act committed by a government employee. those are the answers for the inbox this week. get your question in next week if you e-mail me or tweet me right now at the #thepoint. after the next break, we have the special that i have been plugging all day, growing up trump, hearing directly from a new generation of leaders. first we ll talk to the young activists in the resistance against trump. that s after the break. then we ll hear from young people energized by the new president, followed by a discussion among all of them together. i promise you guys it will be unlike anything else on tv tonight. they ll call back. no one knows your ford better than ford and ford service. right now, during the big tire event, get a $140 rebate by mail, on four select tires. knows how it feels to seees your numbers go up, despite your best efforts. but what if you could turn things around? 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we don t need to speculate today. we ll ask them. we have young leaders from the trump movement we ll hear from in a minute. first, right here some folks leading the resistance. now, let me go ahead and introduce everybody. we re going to bring back them all together, i should mention, for a joint panel in a few segments. first when we talk to trump resistance voters. richie torres youngest elected official in new york representing the bronx. imani editor in chief of muslim girl a social justice activist and blare, founder of equality for here. zena maxwell. former aide to hillary clinton s campaign. thank you for doing this, you guys. i think it will be something different and interesting. show of hands. how many since the election have been at a march or protest? how many have done it in march, in the last month? staying high. richie, as our young elected official, what do you think of the street part of this which is different in social justice than just going to the voting booth? it shows that change has both an inside and outside game and puts the myth of millennial apathy to rest because donald trump s election set off a wave of demonstrations. there were millions of americans who participated in the women s march, not only in washington, d.c., but in every major city across the country. those demonstrations were largely driven by millennials. you are shaking your head. go ahead. well, i just think that, you know, it was so powerful to see the women s march but also to acknowledge the amount of people who have been participating in the marches. i have been involved in black lives matter style movements and in that type of activism so i m excited to see the uniting of forces of people who might have been more on the fence in terms of participating in activism. i wish there was more reliance on the wisdom of those who have been doing it but i m excited to see the momentum of people in the streets, people bringing pizzas to the protests and coming out and supporting. you contrast that as someone who uses music. hillary clinton had a lot of musicians out. i don t know whether it helped or hurt her. we ll play a little bit of lady gaga, who was big for her on the campaign trail. take a listen. it s an honor tonight for me to say, a 30-year-old woman from an italian-american immigrant family [ cheers and applause ] that i am with her! [ cheers and applause ] but as i mentioned, she did worse among young people. well, i think that, you know, i believe that just being a musician necessarily, because i like your music doesn t necessarily mean that i am somebody that s going to like or agree with your political thing. celebrity just to be a celebrity is not something that is going to guarantee somebody as a vote. i think you have to be intelligent and understand the issues and be issue driven. people look for people who have been out there. if you haven t been on the front lines of the protests and movements and just get out there to say you re getting behind a political candidate i kind of wonder how serious i can take you if i haven t seen you being on the front line of some of the issues in the first place. imani. honestly, the statistics about white women voters doesn t surprise me too much. we really have to consider whose backs the past election fell on. it was entirely people of color. it was our livelihoods that were thrown under the bus in the debates and the discussions taking place. many of us were excluded from the conversations. a lot of people are saying that one of the positives from trump s presidency is that it s rallied people together. it s gotten a lot of people in the streets. you could have asked a person of color prior to the elections if racism was still a thing and they would have gladly answered the question without this. yeah. i think the election showed that young people want to participate in this in politics and get out in the streets and do activism. they were doing that before the 2016 election. that s going to continue no matter that was going to continue even if hillary clinton had been elected president. what i think trump does is create a catalyst and really a sense of urgency that you have no choice but to get into the streets and continue your activism. absolutely. i think that, you know, even if hillary had won, and a lot of people like to imagine what it would be like and that it would be this wonderful fantasyland but there were a lot of issues with her policy platform. i think we d still be doing this work. the segment is growing up trump, but we grew up obama and there were still a variety of issues to fight against. that would be the case whether or not trump was in office. i just think there is more energy behind it now. there may be more energy. one of the things we ll talk with the trump folks coming up next is that young people who were trump supporters were far more enthusiastic. listen to donald trump talk about his young support and what he believed was bernie overlap. i ll go a step further. i think a lot of the young people with bernie sanders will come to my side. they want jobs. they say what s happening. bernie sanders and i agree on one thing, trade. that we don t know what we re doing on trade. the difference is i ll make great deals out of it. he doesn t know what to do. i don t necessarily agree that his voters were energized and hillary s weren t. to me, in my community, what i saw was people energized mainly because, like, our lives are on the line. you know what i m saying? trump s rhetoric has actually led to people being killed right now in the united states of america, whether you we re here in new york city where a guy came to specifically target a black man and killed him, you know what i m saying? as i walk the street i have to understand that. i don t necessarily think that just because trump was a celebrity on the apprentice this somehow meant more people were energized by him or younger people were energized by him and not by hillary. i dismiss that. i don t agree with that. imani what s the message to people who are newly engaged if they weren t excited before november? it s important to center the voices of people who are being impacted by the policies. this is truly an opportunity to elevate narratives that are on the line right now and have been marginalized. with the current politics taking place around us and it s important to make sure movements are led by those people, that we re giving space to their voices and in ways that are contributive to the moment. richie how old were you when you were first elected in new york? 25. in a rush. what s changed for you since then? the stakes are much higher. we have a president now who is intent on dismantling the social safety net. in the new york city council i chair the new york city housing authority. that s the very first program that the trump administration has targeted for budget cuts. immediately, $75 million worth of budget cuts. which will translate into more elevated breakdowns in public housing. the stakes are much higher than before. last question for each of you. we are doing dialogue and have trump folks coming up next. what would you want to hear from them next? i just want to hear a good reason why they re supporting trump. i haven t heard one yet. i want to hear one. i don t want to hear alternative facts. i want to hear real facts and real reasons why you would support somebody with a rhetoric like trump. i am optimistic that they want to convert to our cause. you re here for conversion. proselytizing is hard. optimistically i would like to hear a rejection of the normalization of racism that we re seeing but again, high hopes. this is television. we always have high hopes. i want to know how they were able to overlook the access hollywood tape that broke late in the campaign cycle. how can you vote for someone who has spoken like that on the record? 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so far i would say the most important thing he has done is to order the start of the wall. i think that s very important to secure our border. we need to protect our citizens, and we need to know who is coming in and out of the country. yeah. i think he has done the best job in getting people more involved in the political process. less people are watches videos and signing up with the county legislators. i love that donald trump is deconstructing the administrative state. we ve sold out to a bunch of technocrats and now donald trump is beginning to roll it back so that the government can serve the people. you know, this was an election about jobs. over 30% of young americans still live with their parents. i am looking forward to him injecting some life back into our economy, lowering the tax rate, and getting young people back to work. getting good jobs. let me put up something that a lot of people don t realize in terms of donald trump s success with young people. i mentioned this earlier. it s striking. the excitement on candidates for young american voters, right. donald trump supporters here, 32% basically told pollsters they were very excited. only 18% of clinton s young supporters there, under 30 millennials, excited. does that surprise any of you? or what do you make of it? doesn t surprise me at all. i think that we see on the democratic side there have been more efforts to try to go to the base and get grass roots. that s why you need george soros to get the grass roots moving. on the republican side it s genuine and people are excited about president donald trump. i am not surprised at all. donald trump is bold, brash, he is not afraid to address problems that everyone knows are true but many have been too afraid to address in the past. not only did he over-perform with young people but also minority communities. he got a larger percentage of the black, his spannic did muslim wheat than obama did in 2012. for far too long democrats have taken young and minority votes for granted while offering little in the way of policies that lift up those communities. paul, do you agree? what do you hear from people when you tell them that you are a trump backer? it s crazy. i honestly my father forbid me interest saying insults i received on social media. literally i think this is a great opportunity for people to really get involved. not really a big fan of listening to the static. i am an advocate of winston churchill when he said you won t get to your destination if you stop to throw rocks at the dogs barki ba barking at you. this was a trump supporter recently talking about plants closing. laurie clements who works as a meat cutteder. it s getting to the point where, if things don t turn around, the doors will close. and it s going to hurt a lot of people. i want to see him do what he says he is going to do. make america great again. the people of this country have lost a lot of faith in this in their government. the government has done a lot of things that weren t for the people. ellie, what specifically do you think he s done to create jobs in the united states? he signed an executive action to get regulatory reform started. he has empowered heads of agencies to start the reform to ignite and unleash jobs prosperity and great things in america. we re excited about it. you can t tell yet whether that s creating jobs. well, sure. the thing is that you have such an entrenched state, the federal bureaucracy is so marred with the democratic laws that have been put on the books over the last eight years. it will take time. we re only two months in. i think president trump has started with encouraging signs. like i said, it will only get better from here. on the dialogue, and next we ll bring everyone out and have a joint discussion. but when you heard some of the questions there at the end of the segment with the resistance, starting with you, nicole, did you have a response or did you think anything was a fair criticism of president trump? i wouldn t say i necessarily think it s fair. i think we are all very diverse people here. there has been a lot of negative talk about trump supporters, and i think it s all very false. we are very open-minded and we support everyone. i think we all just want what s best for the country. i agree. it s literally unfair for you to justify and label someone based upon the worst of donald trump s rhetoric. i heard a lot about protesting and not too much on how people are getting involved and changing direction and taking the initiative individually to make america great. on the point, it s no secret. a lot of discussion of race and those issues. one thing from fortune magazine on the way donald trump has engaged folks. the quote. trump giving us the wink-wink. editor of a white supremacist website after trump retweeted two other white genocide theorists within a minute. it isn t statistically possible that two back-to-back could be random. it could only be deliberate. the stats there being that at least 75 users were wrapped up in the hash tag. what do you make of that, any of you, because that s been a persistent criticism as well as birtherism. there are young people who don t identify as being excited by that part of his appeal but it was there. one thing i don t think the president has gotten enough contract for is an executive action he signed to move the initiative from the department of education to the white house and assigned white house staff to work on it. something president obama didn t do. he took a lot of heat for this from outside groups because it was stuffed in the education department. now it s a priority of the administration. i think we need to give the president more credit for some of the things he s been doing. i think i heard from the liberal panel a lot of talk about rhetoric, right. i don t like some of the stuff that trump has said, but liberals have this obsession with diverting attention away from actual policies that matter and on to fluff and rhetoric. i am sick of talking about rhetoric. let s talk about policies here. do you think the words are pc? i mean, one of the trump is politically incorrect. that s why everyone loves him. we re going to bring you together but we wanted to hear everyone first. some felt the access hollywood tape which exposed that language. i did not like the access hollywood tape, trust me. i care more about the job market, the economy, getting a good health care system in place than i do about a 2005 tape of a conversation that trump had in private. let me play a little bit of donald trump in the closing of the campaign, which is very interesting to look back at. you all say you were excited by him. you all were with him, right? and this was a time period when a lot of the country wrote him off, wrongly. just at the mark of was he likely to win, could he win. a lot of people who had their smart money, thought they knew what they were talking off. you obviously didn t. hear was donald trump in the mood, defendanconfident, in pena where people said he couldn t win and dissing hillary clinton for relying on the celebrity thing which comes up a lot. i didn t have to bring j.lo or jay z. i m here all by myself. just me. no guitar, no piano, nothing. you know what we do have, and it s all of us, all the same. we all have great ideas and great vision for our country. i think that hillary clinton steered away from getting involved to actually talk about policies. she was bringing people in like lebron james, j.lo. what did it say to you? i think it s offensive and pandering, like bringing a bottle of hot sauce on the air waves. you felt that it wasn t her connecting with the community but more assuming that, what, that that would validate her? i feel like she was trying to assume an identity and trying to be young and hip. like my 50-year-old aunt coming in and say, hey, paul, what s popping, what s cool? it didn t look natural. did you remember that night? i was there in pennsylvania. i remember just the energy and intimacy of the event and those events across the country, that everybody in the room really felt like they had the opportunity to do something that they could never have the opportunity to do again for the rest of their lives. this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and they did it. we ll do a quick break before the finale. did you all coordinate the red? no. just happened. i guess republicans truly are united. when you are on brand, you re on brand. we ve heard differing viewpoints on the trump presidency from these generations of voices. conversation is not over. the most important part comes next. having heard from both sides, we bring them together and we ll listen to what they have to say. stay with us. whether it be with customer contracts, agreements to lease a space or protecting your work. legalzoom s network of attorneys can help you, every step of the way. so you can focus on what you do and we ll handle the legal stuff that comes up along the way. legalzoom. legal help is here. 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i think that, you know, one thing i want to say is that, with trump saying something in private, integrity is about not what you do in public but what you do in private. we want a president with integrity, and i don t feel that s something we have right now. you don t feel the president trump today has integrity. i do not. ellie. one thing we need to understand going forward is that people really don t care about these certain issues we try to make touch points. i think i heard the word nothing burger once on your shows. this is more of the same. people voted on the merits and want to hear about jobs and infrastructure and immigration. imani. trump has the support he does because fear-mongering is the political equivalent of click bait. it will obviously work and energize people. we ve been throwing entire minority communities that are already targeted under the bus because, what, we want to talk about jobs? what s the tradeoff. we are literally saying that we can sacrifice an entire part of the fabric of our society just to continue elevating an already privileged part of america. i would like to say that this is something that s really been happening in america before donald trump s presidency, it s not really about white people attacking black people or dominicans attacking haitians, it s happening amongst ourselves. black people are attacking each other much more than the caucasian community is. more people are doing more across racial lines, across gender. we don t necessarily have a traditional set of values. the millennial generation is the most diverse and progressive in history. we ll get in the streets, run for office and make change in our electoral process. nicole, look at the issues as a young woman excited by donald trump. these are issues people under 30 care about. stress about finances. 64%. student loans, 79%. big impact. thinking you have to tap into whatever little you have saved for retirement because things are so bad. what do you think donald trump is doing for that? he has already talked about lowering taxes. he is reducing federal regulation. he has made a law that says for every regulation that is proposed they have to get rid of two. that helps businesses. you know. as millennials, we have kind of gotten used to the fact that it s difficult to find work, and i think that s a shame because that s not the way the country has always been. you re shaking your head. you re talking about jobs. this president came out against a livable wage. this is a president who it s easy to say rhetoric is rhetoric when the rhetoric is not directed towards you. minimum wage doesn t help. that just makes businesses able to hire fewer people. i am half hispanic. i have a lot of friends. black friends, jewish friends. they all want good jobs, not bad jobs. you do that by making an economy that s flourishing and making it easier for entrepreneurs to hire people. we want to get the government off the back of people who are creating jobs in this country. that s what trump wants to do. this is the same rhetoric that we heard under george w. bush, and the whole economy almost really collapsed internationally. he did so bad on the economy that he wasn t even invited to the last two republican conventions. something in medicine they all eatra jennics. a lot of the liberal policies are well intentioned. you think of minimum wage and it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling but it actually hurts small businesses and hurts for people looking for jobs. it helps people working at a minimum wage to have food for the families. ones who are able to keep jobs. look at what s happening at mcdonald s. they re putting in machines in place of human workers because it s too expensive to keep hiring people. liberals don t understand the difference between good intention and good policy. richie. so far, the trump transition shows every sign of governing incompetently. the president promised a health care plan that would cover everyone and instead put forward a health care plan that, according to the republican-picked congressional budget office would cost 24 million americans their health insurance. he was going to cut medicaid by $800 billion and literally redistribute it for tax cuts for the rich. a show of hands. how many of you at one point since 22 have been on your parents health care plans. paula, that s something you would worry about if they do repeal. as you know, there is a big movement to repeal the whole thing. i think it s going to be it will be a really big disaster if we don t replace it with something that works. i work in an emergency department and we have a labor act where we can t turn away a patient no matter if they can pay for health insurance or if they have it or their ability to pay. i will feel the brunt of this. do you think donald trump understands health care when he said no one knew it was this complex. i have the utmost confidence in his ability to surround himself with people who know health care. donald trump is our president, the representative, not the person with all the answers. it s up to us to reach out through our congressmen to help him make the best decision that works for us. nicole mentioned the wall. how about the two swings on the travel ban. none of it is implemented because it was blocked in the courts because of the way they rolled it out. does it concern you from a competence perspective? i don t think necessarily. i think, necessarily. i think, you know, he s working on it. it s a very new administration, and i have confidence in donald trump that he will get everything done that he said he would. yeah, you know, the first rollout, or the first version of that plan was not well thought out. that s why they reintroduced it. but this everyone understands what this is about. this is about keeping us safe. people have seen what s happened in paris, what s happened in europe. we don t want that here. so i think people understand, yeah, the first version of that bill was not great, but the intention behind that bill are known and i think they are working on it to iron out some of the problems. several people look like they want down the line here. down the line. we ll get a response from chris as well. go ahead. i think that the propensity for americans to say, oh, this makes us safe, you re ignoring the fact we re not safe. we have mass shootings at a rate that no other country sees. it s ridiculous. to say we have some foreign i e inenemy of a different religion that s coming in to harm us, it s completely unfounded. we have violence in america and it s perpetuated by people who look just like the president. paul. my previous statement, i honestly think black-on-black crime is underreported. we want to shed light about a police officer killing a black man, but we have cities such as chicago where it s normal, you don t put it in newspapers anymore. it s on the news all the time. the violence in chicago is definitely in the news. black people who kill other black people go to jail. absolutely. the reason black lives matter in the streets is there s no accountability for when police kill black people. that s the conversation black lives matters is having. not about the violence in the inner city. i m a strong advocate of the black community telling each other that black lives matter, you have other options opposed to being ridiculed by being called white, for being able to talk and articulate your thoughts in a professional way. you is other options on the street as opposed to what s being pushed to you on the airwaves. do you think donald trump hit the right balance in the campaign that, yes, police risk their lives and their lives matter but a lot of black men according to the data are shot down in ways that other groups aren t? the data does show that. i believe he could have done much, much moreget ing the proper liaison to direct the message. i want to know where the all lives matter crew is. where s the all lives matter crew when we re talking about building a wall and keeping people out? a wall that the united states is going to pay for. your taxpayer dollars will pay for. when it s, you know, white supremaci supremacists, committing violence, we don t see trump tweet about everything else but he doesn t tweet about that. we don t even see that when a white child gets killed by police. right. girls are missing in d.c., we don t hear the all lives matter crew. you re talking about turning somebody away at a hospital that doesn t have health care. i thought this was a country based on christian values. is that the type of society we want? you want to talk about all lives matter, i think the one thing that trump can do, we haven t spoken about yet that will help all lives, bring in school choice. in inner cities plagued with violence, you re seeing minority children affected by poor education at a higher rate than all other children. that s because they re not afforded the opportunity to go to the school of their choice. you have these democrat politicians like obama sending their own kids to expensive private schools in limos while they deprive minority communities of school choice. these public schools are failing. the limo might be a security thing. right. go ahead, richie. immigration, one of the darkest moments in american history was when the united states turned away jewish refugees fleeing nazi germany. as a result, many of those refugees died in the holocaust. now we find ourselves treating syrian refugees with the same heartlessness that we did gy refugees a few decades ago. what s supposed to distinguish the united states is the idea all of us can become american regardless of whether we re born here. right? imgragmigration is the heart at we are as a country. donald trump is an attack on the american ideal. here s thing, almost humorously you were talking about good intentions versus good policy yet we spent the last five minutes listing out all these failed policies that trump has attempted to enact within his first 100 days alone that have obviously been embarrassing at how badly they have been. and the thing is, i don t care what kind of friends you have. if you re friends with muslims or black people or whoever, if you re supporting someone who is exploiting those communities in order to get to where he wants to be, in a position of power, then that is you renouncing our american values. like, if we re talking about bad policies, we re at a historic low, not only with the approval ratings that trump is suffering from right now on a national scale, but also the travel ban, i.e. the muslim ban, implemented solely to dis criminacriminate a religious background from end urg our k entering our country. go ahead. as a jew, i find it astounding the myriad ways democrats find ways to connect what happened in the haolocaust to what s going on today. the syrian refugee crisis is absolutely not comparable to what happened with jewish refugees. what s encouraging is the fact that donald trump, president donald trump, has indicated that he wants to put up safe zoens in syria. let s make sure it s safe there. i m hearing a lo t of anger and fear from the left and i think to blame for that, we can point our fingers at the media that has gone out of its way to completely kind of, you know, distort a lot of trump s policies, for example, the muslim ban. it s not a muslim ban. you re in a setting by at least one media news organization. right. that s tried to give no, no, exactly. i m so appreciative of that. but i think one great example is this notion that his travel ban is a muslim ban. the most populist muslim countries in the world are not emp on this list. for political reasons. yet again, how is it we have an exception for the muslim ban for people who come from a christian background? which was changed in the second ban. i was going to say in regards to the kusht political climate, a lot of people are so divided right now. a lot of people are in campaign mode. i tried to work for president trump. almost as if they re being twha2008 obama haters. the reason people don t want to work with trump, it s not because people are comparing to the holocaust for tragedy reasons. we re comparing to the hall c t holocaust, future generations are going to ask how we let this happen, the same way we re asking how the holocaust took place. richie, briefly? during the election, he said he wants to ban muslims. we re only judging him by his own words. we re going to take a quick break, and a final word after this. is not a marathon it s a series of smart choices. like using glucerna to replace one meal or snack a day. glucerna products have up to 15 grams of protein to help manage hunger and carbsteady, unique blends of slow release carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes. every meal every craving. it s the choices you make when managing blood sugar that are the real victories. glucerna. everyday progress. before fibromyalgia, i was a doer. i was active. then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. my doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. she also prescribed lyrica. fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. woman: for some, lyrica can significantly relieve fibromyalgia pain and improve function, so i feel better. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior. or swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. common side effects are dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs and feet. don t drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don t drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. with less pain, i can be more active. ask your doctor about lyrica.
today. today you can sense the chant coming from the trump people. listen closely and you can pick up a slightly different rhythm right now of don t lock me up, don t lock me up! yesterday it was reported first by the wall street journal that trump s former national security adviser michael flynn, the guy saw there going after hillary, his lauer is looking to get flynn immunity in order to testify about what he knows. according to his lawyer trump s former national security adviser certainly has a story to tell. this morning president trump tweeted that mike flynn should ask for immunity in is that this is a witch hunt an excuse for a big election lost by the democrats and the media of historic proportion. at the meeting today sean spicer conexplained the president was trying to convey his desire to see flynn testify. if you actually stop for a second and realize what the president is doing he is saying do whatever to do to go up and make it clear what happened, take whatever precaution you want or however your legal counsel advises you. general flynn s attorney says he has a story to tell. is the white house concerned that the white house has damaging information about the president, his aides, his associates, about what occurred during the campaign with respect to russia? nope. nope. we ll see. nbc reported today that the senate intelligence committee turned down general flynn s request for immunity. his lawyer was told it was wildly preliminary to discuss such a thing. joining me is the wall street journal s carol lee who broke the story of the attempted immunity deal, and howard feynman, an msnbc political analyst. carol, thank you for joining us. what is the king thinking tonight. what is trump worried about for michael flynn? what has he got on him? from the white house s perspective, their posture is he doesn t have anything on him. if we step back, we don t know. this is somebody, mike flynn was with the president almost every day during the campaign. well he says he has a story to tell. yes. what s the that s another question, we don t know what the story is. michael flynn has his time spent with donald trump and the trump campaign and the transition into the white house. mike flynn has another he has had contacts with russia, not just with the ambassador here in washington, but he has been paid tens of thousands of dollars by entities that are arms of the russian government, and he sat at a dinner in december of 2015 with vladimir putin. and so he there are a number of stories that he could tell. howard, look at this. we ve been here before. you see a guy not far down the tree from the president. right there, national security adviser. he knows a lot. the more he is afraid, the more he is going to talk. the more he is looking at 20 years for not disclosing money he got from the russia. not being honest when he was under oath when he was talking to an ambassador about russian sanctions. he says i m damn damn not going to prison for this guy, i want to talk. first of all, he wants to talk at time when he would be most useful. the committee wants to learn everything it can about what flynn has to say from people other than flynn so they don t have to give him much, if anything. so they are saying wait a minute, wait a minute b. but if you are the attorney for flynn you want to get him in there right away so he gets credit for whatever he says from them. and also you have another reason, which is you want to give yourself what they call in the trade here in washington an immunity bath. you want to cover yourself with as much immunity as the committee is willing to give you. not just use, not just what you say, but anything. anything. in order the make it more difficult for the feds and the fbi and the justice department to try to prosecute you. those are the twin things going on. first of all he filled out financial disclosure forms, what he said to the russians, how much he got what he said to the russians. what else? what he said to the russian ambassador. he spoke with the fbi. if you look at his track record, there has been two thing he was not forthcoming on, obviously, his the nature of what the conversations with the russian ambassador were. kislyak. kislyak, and he did not report being an agent of a foreign government with some of his work he had done with turkey. turkey. those are two examples. not only that, but going back to when he was a top intelligence official in the government he would have to report certain contacts that he had, there is a whole array. let s talk human nature. your paper has been covering chris christie. the other day we saw chris christie s top person, deputy in a government relations person, bridget kelly, the other guy, what s his name? i know he got two years in the slammer ahead of him. wait a minute, sometimes the guy who work for the guy get in trouble we u.s.a. see it a lot. with scooter libby, dick cheney getting in trouble. they are the ones that swing and the big guys get away. he doesn t want to swain. to get an old refrain from the watergate days the question is what did the president know and when did he know it? when did candidate trump go and when did he know it. baroni is the name. bill baroniy. to me, the most vulnerable thing ises that flynn has is not registering as a foreign agent. that s a serious crime. the lawyer happens to be an expert in that field. they want to protect him on that. he wants that bath? he wants whatever he can get by way of the battle against the prosecution they have got him on. donald trump and michael flynn addressed the issue of immunity in the past let s listen to then candidate trump last september discussing hillary clinton s associates. her aides took the fifth amendment, and her ring leaders were given immunity. and if you are not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for? how it all comes around. what goes around comes around in d.c. here s that flynn sai on meet the press in september. five people around her have been given immune to include her former chief of staff. when you are given immune that means you have probably committed a crime. he just said he just said if you on the wad immunity you probably committed a crime. there he is talking about somebody else. and everybody is hearing him now talking about himself. now the white house s position as we ve seen them do before is well that was then and this is now and this doesn t mean anything now. i have been watching spicer. i think he reached the point of incredibility. did you watch today? were you there. yes. what did you make of it howard. he was just saying things that he was denying all of this. i think he s only performing for an audience of one chris. he s not performing for glen thrush or carol or any of the reporters in the room. he s doing his shtick for the president of the united states. so for sean spicer to get out there and say only only interest is to get to the bottom of this whole thing. that s why we want him to testify. that s why we want him to testify. everybody in the room isn t taking that seriously but donald trump is presumably back there in the oval office watching him and saying the way to give it to them, sean. the better he prosecutes it the more the president likes it. until the president decides like a kleenex tsh you sean is done, then he will pull out somebody else to do it. more like a pez dispenser. sean spicer is trying to do the bidding of the president. it s tough. amy klobuchar joins us now. we are chuckling about the irony. not the tragedy. it is a tragedy. we have a president with people around him who are beginning to rat on him and offering themselves up if they will get protection themselves under the law. a bath of immunity is how he phrased it, he is an attorney, like yourself, senator. what do you think as a former prosecutor? what s going on with trump? how dangerous are his waters right now? okay. i was pretty stunned he did this tweet this morning saying first of all that flynn should get the immunity. which they themselves said it was an implicati- i m not saying it is tt a crime was committed. then saying it was a witch hunt. it is a truth hunt. we have to get to the bottom of what happened here. now we have a situation where the president s former national security adviser, literally was just appointed the national security adviser, lies to the vice president and then has to step down. we are now talking about immunity. i think as a prosecutor i can tell you you have got to be really careful with this congressional what is called derivative use immunity, what we saw in the case of oliver north who was convicted of three felony counts but then they were reversed because it was found that during the congressional investigation the witnesses were so tainted that the conviction, the actual conviction didn t stand up. i know that senator warner and the senator burr and the intelligence committee in the senate is going to be very careful here. and it is just way too early, as adam schiff said today, to be talking about anything like this. and i i know they won t be doing anything about it without talking to the justice department if this is an ongoing investigation, as we believe it is. senator, let s talk about political irony here. you have not been around here as long as i have, there is an old phrase, what goes around comes around. here are the people that were trucking in the business of saying we are going to put people in jail like it s south korea or pakistan where if you lose an election we put you away. they were talking like that just a few months ago. now we are talking immunity. i want to know what you thought of the phrase lock her up when they were throwing that line out in cleveland. listen, as a former prosecutor and someone who has had to be very careful before you jump to those conclusions, i can t tell you when i had that job for eight years how many times i would say, we are still looking at the evidence. this is what is out there publicly. this is what is in the complaint. you simply can t jump to conclusions like that as a leader. sure you can when you are sitting around a bar talking to your friend. bee when you are a leader and on national television you have an obligation to be careful with those kinds of words and there is some irony in the fact that they are now coming back to haunt them. what do you make of the long progression of incidences where there was connections between the trump campaign, his people, from manafort to carter page, to roger stone, himself, all these people, including flynn, having these regular encounters with russians at the time that we were dealing with the sanctions issue, where the republicans were rewriting their platform, including the plank on how we should deal with ukraine in a far more lean yen manner than ever before, when money was being passed to flynn and people like that. what do you make of the connection? does it look like a two-way connection or just a one-way connection? you know, i think this is getting seedier and seedier and seedier. i read that intelligence report, the 17 intelligence agencies, the one that was public. and i thought to myself, this is our united states intelligence agencies saying that this is actually going on and having been in ukraine with john mccain and lindsey graham, having seen the influence of russia and with a they ve done, the invasions, the killings of 10,000 people, this isn t just games and some kind of fun little thing of cloak and dagger. this is actually something happening. when you go from manafort, the campaign chair, to the national security adviser, to the fact that he talked to the russian ambassador on the exact same day that president obama announced expanded sanction. and then you have the attorney general of the united states having met with that same ambassador only three days after president obama and putin met and president obama made clear he wasn t taking away the sanctions it s just one person in power after another. and that s why not only is this intelligence investigation important. it s why we have to have an independent commission. and that s something that on january 4th i called for with ben cardin and elijah cummings and adam schiff. the four of us stood together stood together and said yes go on with your investigation but let s hav an independent commission. you can t have a bipartisan investigation, can you. i called for his recusal. but i do think we want to allow the senate process to continue. both warner and burr did a good job this week. there is no reason at the same time you can have an independent commission. they would be looking at it from a different angle, that s a panel of experts just like after 9/11 that would be coming forward with ways to prevent this from happening again. this is not just an assault on one candidate, one election, one country, it is really an assault on all democracys. we have had problems in our history, joe mccarthy back in the 50s, republicans put him away. in watergate it was democrats and republicans putting him away. when we are bipartisan and work together, this country is so much better off. thank you senator for coming on tonight. there has been a theme by the way in sean spicer s briefing today, at least on questions on russia, flynn, and devin nunes. see if you can pick up on it, watch? i don t know what he knows. do you know if that is the case? i don t, if i start commenting on every one of these stories, i can t that s not our practice. i don t know the answer to that. i don t know the answer to that question. i don t know the answer to that. some of it i don t know. i don t know. you should i m not aware of that. if you could just find out. you can call the fbi. do you have any new information about how the chairman did get onto the campus? as i said the last two days i m not going to discuss that. will you release any respectfully, the counsel s office is working with them. i don t want to get in front of how they go back and forth and make a decision. the white house counsel s office sent that letter. they are the uns ones it s not my decision, major. i don t know what they will or won t do going forward and i don t want to prejudge that. reminds me of hogan s heros. i don t know. the lovable sherman. it s his job. i don t know nothing. nunes goes there the next day, picks up a pile of christmas presents. the next day goes to the president, here are some presents, i don t know where i t the from, he got them from his crowd the night before. it is a mask raid. there are times when sean spicer said he does know, on this very issue, it doesn t make sense that nunes would come here and go back and then come back here. doesn t pass the smell test. he keeps getting tripped up on this. it used to be press secretaries would say i ll take the question and get back to you. he comes the question and said who let him in the door. and then the next day he says i agreed the take the question, i didn t agree to give you an answer. what they are trying is trying to shift the question from what russia did to who leaked what about this. i know, it is a sideshow. and sean spicer today was desperately trying to quote change the narrative. that s the favorite word in the briefing room it s narrative. it s not answering questions. it s who can construct the narrative. he can do it. he is trying. trying to impress the boss but he is not able to do it. the history books will be written with the word russia in them. it s not going to be nunes, who is going to be forgotten, carol lee great reporting. congrats. thank you. always good to get the scoop on the front page. howard feynman. coming up, devin nunes attempted a caper to keep secrets from the white house. his sly attempts to take the heat off president trump all seem to be unraveling. don t you think? a member of the house intelligence committee is going to join us after the break with more. apart from college basketball there is real march madness at the white house. everything trump warned us about when he warned us about hillary clinton becoming president is pretty much what is going on right now. the worst case scenario. plus joe biden is back. and he has words for donald trump. here s a hint, it s advice on the president s tweeting habits. let me finish tonight with trump watch. you won t like it. this is hard ball. flonase allergy relief delivers more complete relief. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances that cause all your symptoms, including nasal congestion and itchy, watery eyes. flonase is an allergy nasal spray that works even beyond the nose. so you can enjoy every beautiful moment to the fullest. flonase. 6>1 changes everything. not just the automobile, f tomorrow will transform but mobility itself. an autonomous-thinking vehicle protecting those inside and out. and it s the mercedes-benz of today that will help us get there. the 2017 e-class, with innovations no car has offered before. and that will change driving forever after. lease the e300 for $549 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. former vice president joe biden offered donald trump advice during an appearance thursday at the university of pennsylvania. take a listen. if you could give president trump one piece of advice, what would it be? grow up. i would literally, you know, stop tweeting. and start focusing. the words of a president matter. they have enormous, enormous, enormous reverberating sounds around the world. by the way, that s amy gutman there. at the launch of the penn biden center for diplomacy and global engage men. we ll be right back. when you re close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz. taltz is proven to give you a chance at completely clear skin. with taltz, up to 90% of patients had a significant improvement of their psoriasis plaques. in fact, 4 out of 10 even achieved completely clear skin. do not use if you are allergic to taltz. before starting you should be checked for tuberculosis. taltz may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you are being treated for an infection or have symptoms. or if you have received a vaccine or plan to. inflammatory bowel disease can happen with taltz. including worsening of symptoms. serious allergic reactions can occur. now s your chance at completely clear skin. just ask your doctor about taltz. for intelligence was one of the sources and began gathering evidence shortly after president trump s wiretapping tweet. when flynn s replacement tried to oust him, source say president trump saved him his job reportedly at the urging of his advisors kushner and bannon. mike ellis a lawyer in the counsel office who previously worked with nunes was the second white house official according to the new york times. today the washington post reported a third official, top lawyer for the nsc john eisenberg was also involved in the handling of those reports that went to nunes. we caught up with two of the three, ellis and eisenberg early this morning. did you provide nunes intelligence? i m not talking about anything. did you see what devin nunes shared with president trump? i have got get to work. can you tell us anything about which trump officials were mentioned in the documents given to chairman nunes? nothing. can you tell us anything if there were any corroboration with russian officials by the obama administration? i have no idea. can you tell us anything, any information about the current investigation going on by chairman nunes? nothing to say. can you give us any information, sir? couple more guys that don t know nothg. congressman mike quickly is a democratroilliis sits on the intelligence committee. and greg miller correspondent from the washington post. gentlemen, welcome. i m thinking i m trump, i woke up on a saturday and i tweeted that the former president wiretapped me during the trump campaign at trump tower. then i realized i made a mistake and i consult my advisors and we go what do we have and who can we feed it to? they say we have got cohen and ellis who used to work for nunes. put this thing together. congressman, it looks like it was an alley-oop play. i like to use that phrase. dick cheney used to do it. give it to somebody else to deliver. and then you can say, as i was saying. they have got this guy, nunes, pegged. they used him. they fed him stuff out of the white house. one night. the next morning he came back and announced it with the president with alarming he had just gotten from the president s people the night before. how do you see it yourself? i m listening to the three stooges theme in the background unfortunately. it s extraordinarily troubling and frustrating. and at this point in time, the only thing we have is the opportunity to go forward. i m not giving up on the house investigation. there s a lot of good people over there. clearly, we have had an extraordinarily tough week. and you know, you know that there have been calls for mr. nunes to step aside. that s not going to happen, unfortunately. so we are going to work together, hopefully, and pivot and go back to regular order this week. do you trust him? i think he s made it difficult for the investigation to go forward, but given that there are very few options, i don t have any choice. i ll tell you this. he was a very fair chairman under the obama administration. it s been difficult this last week or so, especially since obviously president trump took office. at this point in time, i wish i could say more. we have no choice. the speaker isn t going to knock him off. he s not going to recuse himself in the final analysis we are going to be reading the same documents. and we have been. we are going to be interviewing the same witnesses. i do believe we are going to have that open hearing. and i do believe we are going back to meetings with admiral rogers and mr. comey to find out exactly what took place. greg, it seems to me that when this thing is fully aired by the press and by the committee to some extent but more by the press we are going to see the materials give to mr. nunes on tuesday night last week are basically the ones they are going to be giving out. but when they gave them to him in a special bay, almost like giving an exclusive to a reporter, build it up and make it seem alarming and exculpatory for the president, make the president look good on his dawn patrol tweets. i get the feeling it s not going to be that useful once it comes out in a normal fashion. what do you make of it? what s there? i think that s true, the more we ve learned about the documents, and we are still a long way from learning everything about them, it sounds less and less alarming, right? you peel back where nunes started, which was very uncomfortable, boy, the american public wouldn t like to see this stuff. then he has a conversation with adam schiff, and schiff says boy based on what nunes told me when i press him on this issue is this was sort of standard operating procedure for intelligence agencies. i mean there is a legitimate issue here on the unmasking of american officials who show up in the surveillance of foreign governments. but it s just so odd how the white house in this case has sort of used nunes and damaged his credibility over such a seemingly minuscule matter, this tweet. you just sort of wonder whether nunes is such an important ally for the administration, whether they might have wanted to preserve his credibility for more important developments later on in this russia story. mr. quickly, a couple i think there is three cases in the last week where the white house s people basically told us the story. first of all sean spicer whose job is to speak for the president saying it doesn t pass as the smell test if he got the stuff at the white house one night and shows up the next day to bring it back. then this congressman from florida, works for the president. said quigley, one of the members of your intelligence committee works for the president. what do you make about the claims, about the constitution, they seem to admit i said they sound like their own worst witnesses. at this point, mr. spicer is channelling his inner ron ziegler. i think there is something beyond this that s more troubling. how this information was passed back and forth. unfortunately, what s taking place here besides the distraction is the very real possibility that there are going to be investigations of what s happened during the investigation. and is that a distraction to the american public? it absolutely is. there s a lot of serious work to do on this. not the least of which is how do we prevent this sort of russian involvement again. but we re not going to get there if we are playing these sort of crazy games. do you think nunes wants to find out the trump role in cooperating with the russians, if there was one? does he want to know what hand they played in encouraging the russians to hack the democratic national committee, podesta and palmieri and all the rhett of that that seemed to droi hillary clinton s campaign? do you think nunes wants to find out the truth of trump s role in all of that? i would think every american would like to fine out the truth how far the russian involvement what took place, who played a role in that, who if anyone was helping on side of the united states. how far did this go? how do we prevent it in the future? and what about these leaks? that s the four levels of this investigation i have to assume that they are going to work in good faith. obviously, my doubts have been raised. we are going to keep a good eye on it and alert the american public. we have got a job to do. i can t let them succeed on the distractions. otherwise we are rewarding bad behavior. i have to make this investigation work. well said. ank u u. congressman mike quigley of illinois and greg miller. up next, talk about march madness for the trump administration. we will tell you why this has not ban good month for this president. has hard ball, where the action is. allergies with nasal congestion? 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[ upbeat music ] strut past that aisle for the allergy relief that starts working in as little as 30 minutes and contains the best oral decongestant. live claritin clear, with claritin-d. had not. sessions recused himself from the investigation into collusion a day later. then on the 4th of the month, trump dropped his explosive tweets falsely accusing the prior administration of wiretapping him during the campaign. on march 6th, republicans unveiled the american health care act but one week later the cbo said t bill would cost would cause 24 million americans to lose coverage. two days later on the 159:a federal judge blocked the president s second travel ban. on march 20th, fbi director james comey publicly confirmed that the bureau is investigating alleged ties between the trump campaign and russia. two days later devin nunes said he had seen reports showing intelligence on surveillance of the trump transition team who was provided by the white house. the president ignites a war within his party against the freedom caucus. on the 25th he promotes a segment on fox news that calls for house speaker paul ryan to step down. on the 29dth of this month a judge in hawaii extended the block of the president s travel ban. just yesterday, three white house officials are outed for showing intelligence reports to chairman nunes. former national security adviser michael flynn asks for legal immunity from investigators in exchange for his testimony. today the president tweets his support for flynn and it s revealed the senate has turned down that request for immunity. we ll discuss president trump s bad month with the hard ball panel coming up here next. you are watching hard ball. mom gets breakfast in bed. you get to do the dishes. bring em on. dawn ultra has 3 times more grease-cleaning power. a drop of dawn and grease is gone. hey, ready foyeah. big meeting? 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let s get perspective. remember the first term of the clintons, first 100 days. disaster, hillary care. people getting ousted. people thought he would never get reelected. he was reelected. i m thinking about the last couple of weeks and i m perplexed why we are not talking about the real scandal. was there a misuse of government surveillance? were there raw intelligence reports that made it into the hounds of white house senior officials? my thing is i want to get to the bottom this, i think talk to republicans who say let s get to the bottom, let s have flynn and everybody in front of the committees but also let sursue what actually happened. ruth, that s a legitimate newe hear it from sean spicer every day, the line, that the real story here is leaks. it s been my experience for a long time that people in power tend to care about leaks and nobody else does. well, the real story here is a bunch of different stories. the real story here is what director comey told us he was investigate, right? what did russia to do influence the election and was there any improper coordination, collusion, between members of the trump campaign and you know, associates, and the russians to influence the election? that s the main story. there are also totally legitimate pieces to that story. were there improper leaks? how did these leaks occur? it seems to me that the trump campaign the trump administration has sort of created its own circular reality here. that doesn t mean that there might not have been improper unmasking. but the fundamental issue is the fundamental issue, which is the russians, and what trump did or didn t do with them. i think the big story is what you said, the symbiotic partnership to it. the most aggressive print press coverage i ve seen since watergate. the washington post, the new york times fighting it out with a huge contingency of reporters, incredible enterprise all over the front page, two or three stories a day. i ve never seen such aggressiveness. i think that s the other en of leaks. they are getting the story out faster than trump s people are, that s for sure. when you ve got the media environment that s so rapid fire, once you got up to speed on the story that broke at 1:00 there is a new one at 1:30. michael flynn is going to go for immunity, it blew everything else out of the saddle around 7:00 last night. it s also because it is a target rich environment. you have an administration that raises more questions every time they attempt to either answer one or on few skate answering another question. d you know, the longer the president and his senior advisors continue to get around answering questions saying i don t know, i don t know, i don t know as you said earlier the more this story is going to along. in washington we have seen this happen, an administration that refuses to just own up to whatever it is they no. the longer the story goes on, and the more damage it cause. let me ask you, do you think this travel the travel office story was a pain in the butt that the clintons they wanted to give their cousin a job in the travel office. it handled travel office for the press, not the travel for the country. can you figure out who is in the white house with the president? here we are 70 days. i m trying to fig you out who is sitting next to him. i think s lonely guy, personally, doesn t have a lot of buds. jared kushner, and his wife, the praez s daughter, he identifies this guy, cohen, the head of intelligence at nsc, he hooks up with this guy, ellis, who hooks up with nunes, nunes heads over in the middle of the night. you are laughing. it is a mickey mouse operation. it is all come to light their plan to skip this thing around and get it laundered at the white house and have a republican chairman of the committee say this is damage alarming information. it was their own information. it is a beginning to look mickey mouse, i m sorry. it s funny that nunes a week ago was lauded by the press by calling out trump on his tweets. calling him out on his tweets. that s what they reacted to. i think nunes got heat for that. again, i will go back to ultimately at the ends of the day the conversation i don t think there will be any evidence. we have seen brennan, clapper, others saying there is no proof, there is no information that shows collusion with russia. what does michael flynn want immunity for? what does he want to get what is the story he wants to tl? his lawyers thinking he has a story to tell. in a witch hundred. there is no witch if you listen to the narrative you could have sworn there were russians agents in voting booths in wisconsin. here s a good way to disrupt the narrative, have the president come out and tell everything. i m going to agree with you. on this i don t think the white house has been as good at driving the narrative. i think they could be better. i think there will be a hard look at what took place over these weeks. i don t believe in witches. i believe in witch-hunts. but i look at a picture and i see the guy that was going to be national security adviser to the president sitting at dinner with putin and getting paid $30,000. three weeks. i know, what s it say? what carter page over to russia all the time. what s that back and forth about? meetings kislyak. all these meetings with flynn covered up. if there was nothing wrong with the meeting, why did they deny them. jonathan, you haven t said anything. i just had an outburse. [ overlapping speakers ] if the white house driving, not doing a good job driving the narrative, they are like the democrats best friend. they started with the tweet, and then they keep digging deeper and deeper. you talked about the first 100 days of the clinton administration. i was a white house reporter during that. tell me what bill clinton s numbers were after his first 100 days and you would swap them for donald trump s. 4% in. they committed some of the mistakes because they didn t have experienced people around them. let me ask you about learning curves. all the different points of view here, opinion writers you are allowed to have them, of course you have an opinion. what have you seen of a lerveing curve from trump? where has he shown week by week the pick up on people who to trust, ways of doing things. you are getting quiet on me. i don t see it either. show me some learning where has he improved. 18 months ago people thought this guy is is a joke. quick study. he is the president of the united states. i think he let sebody else drive his agenda. i think he is goio learn from that. who is that? paul ryan on hill. i think there were mistakes in how the agenda and the agenda calendar has run out. do you think paul ryan has talent. he has some talent but not as much talent as speakers in the past. learning term in terms of monitoring policies, more extreme policies have turned out to be more moderate but not on presidential behavior like tweeting. i think the presidential cabinet there are interesting people on the cabinet, better than him. i look to them to protect this country more than him. that is scary. coming up this is hard ball, where the action is. a heart attack doesn t care what you eat or how healthy you look. no matter who you are, a heart attack can happen without warning. a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another heart attack. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. bayer aspirin. the discredited notion of separate but equal. and through a long career in the law and in public service, bill coleman played a role in republican administrations from president eisenhower through president ford for whom he served as the first african-american cabinet member in a republican administration. president bill clinton awarded secretary coleman the presidential medal of freedom. william t. coleman jr. he was 97. anything else to talk about. but then i realized there was. so, i finally broke the silence with my doctor about what i was experiencing. he said humira is for people like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn s disease. in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. if you re still just managing your symptoms, talk with your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. a big payment is due on october 2nd. if they don t raise the debt ceiling, that would be the day. it s going to be about the mexican wall. you watch because the democrats are not going to pay for that wall. ruth. we ve been talking a lot about devin nunes. he was not the original choice of then house speaker john boehner to be the chairman of the intelligence committee. it was another member of that committee, mike conaway, who boehner went for. nunes was not happy about that, lobbied the speaker, got the job. some people development that was. ned? i love this guy yoho who said his job is to work for the president. trump s going to have to make a decision, outsider/insider, it was his outsider instincts that got him to the white house. he s got to trust his instincts. at some point there s going to be a changeup with the white house staff. i m not sure if sean spicer and rice make it. how does he get anything done with his attitude? how do you get 216 votes in the house? how do you pass anything? i think you re going to bring the freedom caucus guys back to the table. i feel pretty positive you re going to get something done and you go on to tax reform. thank you. when we return, let me finish with trump watch. you re watching hardball. whe o the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz. taltz is proven to give you a chance at completely clear skin. with taltz, up to 90% of patients had a significant improvement of their psoriasis plaques. in fact, 4 out of 10 even achieved completely clear skin. do not use if you are allergic to taltz. before starting you should be checked for tuberculosis. taltz may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you are being treated for an infection or have symptoms. or if you have received a vaccine or plan to. inflammatory bowel disease can happen with taltz. including worsening of symptoms. serious allergic reactions can occur. now s your chance at completely clear skin. just ask your doctor about taltz. now s your chance at completely clear skin. customer service!d. ma am. this isn t a computer. wait. you re real? 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yes or no as a principle? the answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. for the woman? yeah, there has to be some form. now, there are other questions to which candidate trump gave unsettling answers in the campaign. in that same interview, for example, trump refused to rule out the use of nuclear weapons in europe, and one has to wonder what scenario would put that option, as trump said, on the table. so think back to franklin roosevelt in 1933, soothing us with the line, we have nothing to fear but fear itself. but this time with this president, don t take fear off