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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120802:04:36:00

this fear that we were going to be attacked by somebody powerful. that led to military spending that i think in some cases was excessive. the soviet union collapses in 1990, and first george h.w. bush and bill clinton begive to reduce the military because there was no longer this existential threat to our citizens, and then dick cheney and the other neocons persuade george bush they can use the threat of terrorism as the functional political equivalent of communism. the terrorists are terrible people, and i am very pleased that we are fighting against them, but they're not hitler, and they're not stalin. they don't threaten our existence as a country. they're threatening our lives. we have to fight them back, but that threat was blown up beyond the reality. so we got back into excessive military spending, including the two wars. i think what's happened finally is the american people understand there is no power in if world that comes remotely

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120802:08:35:00

i guess assuming times have changed enough to make this less risky. do you think times have changed enough? >> i do, and you're exactly right. it is historic, and frankly, the timeline is beyond that. remember, john kennedy, whom i generally admired, ran against richard nixon on the grounds that the republicans hadn't spent enough on defense, there had been a missile gap, and for years, i have been involved in this, democratic candidates for president were told, your one vulnerability is if you're weak on defense. that's why a really superb public ver servant, michael dukakis, made the mistake of being in the tank. he was a veteran, had a right to do it, but it didn't look good. i think what has happened is this, rachel. for 60 years, the american public was focused on -- 50 years, from 1940 to 1990, there were very bad people who were heavily armed, first hitler and then stalin and his successors, and they meant us ill. now, i believe that we did not see an evolution in the soviet union early enough and we overprepared for it, but there was this fear that we were going to be attacked by somebody powerful. and that led to military spending that i think in some cases was excessive. the soviet union collapses in

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120802:01:35:00

remember, john kennedy, whom i generally admired, ran against richard nixon on the grounds that the republicans hadn't spent enough on defense, there had been a missile gap, and for years, i have been involved in this, democratic candidates for president were told, your one vulnerability is if you're weak on defense. that's why a really superb public serviceant michael dukakis made the mistake of being in the tank, he was a veteran, had a right to do it, but it didn't look good. i think what has happened is this, rachel. for 60 years, the american public was focused on -- 50 years, from 1940 to 1990, there were very bad people who were heavily armed, first hitler and then stalin and his successors, and they meant ulill. i believe we did not see an evolution in the soviet union early enough and we overprepared for it, but there was this fear that we were going to be attacked by somebody powerful.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20110223:01:12:00

the chinese are not going to stop buying the oil. it's a world market. they put the product out. >> it's hard to imagine that we could boycott them to have the asset, they have the cash for right now. but looking at what's going on internal to libya, there seems to be civil war in tripoli. other regions of the country seem to be under the control of the revolutionaries. how does -- where does the military go and who's allegiance do they remain -- who do they remain loyal to? >> i think this is different from egypt. this is not a professional military. it is a tribal military with strange loyalties or divided loyalties. so the crucial question will be, you know, what is the critical mass, then, who controls it? and i think, ultimately, what's going to happen is somebody in the military, somebody powerful in the military is going to decide, is it worthwhile to side with gadhafi, or throw him overboard. because i do wonder with all this violence we're seeing, at the end of the day, the regime

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