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2020 election. so they are getting it from both directions right now. and the only way to make the pain stop is to come up with some kind of a settlement. >> that is the first revelation i think from the first disclosures of the discovery process we learned about, how driven by the stock price tucker carlson's editorial programming decisions were. i think one of the first publicly released communications, i don't remember if they were text messages or emails, were about. look at the stock price, get rid of the fact checkers. and then the three way thread with laura ingraham, sean hannity and t...

Experience with this kind of treatment, that if someone is subjected to enough physical pain, that person will say whatever is necessary in order to make that pain stop. and that's why there's also a wealth of misinformation that comes out of people who are being subjected to it. >> truth? >> the situation with khalid sheikh mohammed, the man who cut danny pearl's head off. he was subjected to harsh interrogation for a couple of weeks, tough couple of weeks, he was in our custody for three or four years after that. and provided a wealth of information. much of it, almost all of it was accurate...

Whatever is necessary in order to make that pain stop. and that's why there's also a wealth of misinformation that comes out of people who are being subjected to it. >> that's one of the big debates that the torture report has set up. did it work? was it worth it? probably a bigger question for many, was it right? we certainly now know senator john mccain's stance. >> it's been his stance for a long time. he, of course, was a whizzer prf war for many years in vietnam. glenn carl is the author of "the interrogator." thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you, my pleasure. >> you ran interro...